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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 08:05 [#00554914]
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again, what you said was very degrading and also bullshit.
if you were really trying to help me out, you would have shown alittle more respect.
Now blow me.
Im off to class now.
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-02-14 08:06 [#00554917]
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lol. creative!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 08:08 [#00554921]
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Following my last post I read the rest of the thread...
Don't turn this into a petty slagging match guys. That goes for all of you.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 08:09 [#00554924]
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let autechre do autechre.. you do you.. or .. y'kno start doing you from now on
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 08:10 [#00554928]
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I don't need to show u any respect.. considering the fact that you demanded all of our respect/attention with your rediculous website
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 08:11 [#00554935]
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Good point- people compared a couple of my tracks to autechre. At that point I hadn't heard any autechre so I was a bit annoyed that people thought I was copying them (even though no one said that). I inentionally changed my style a bit to avoid being seen as an imitator of them.
Also- people saying you're like Ae? A lot of music makers here would see that as a compliment.
The site is well designed, regardless of the content. Props to Joyrex.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-14 08:12 [#00554938]
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Now this is getting silly. I wish Mickey Mouse would step in and moo or quack or something.
Why can't you guys be more Happy Baby Animal Friends about each other's work? I notice most professional musicians (except rappers) don't get a hair up their ass and go all Pitchfork on each other.
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-14 08:15 [#00554943]
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zeus is only young - he will develop. I havent heard any mp3s linked from this board or others that arent highly influenced by a small group of warp/idm artists. given 4 or 5 years, zeus's music could be alright
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 08:17 [#00554946]
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there ya go.. that's all I'm saying
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 08:18 [#00554948]
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now GO TO CLASS.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 08:24 [#00554956]
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Ophecks' Technique:
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-14 08:44 [#00554987]
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mine aren't influenced by ANY warp artist, or indeed, any artist at all. I'm directly connected to Universe. I'm unique. DOn't believe me, just ask Amoun
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 09:14 [#00555049]
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what a lot of time+effort people seem to spend making websites, spamming tracks, dissing other peoples tracks/website, having deep and meaningless philosophical discussions about the nature of art etc. when they could be actually making music or summat useful instead.
oh and there is no such thing as useful critiscism.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-14 09:19 [#00555059]
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so phobia and the team have been wasting time by making this website? that's not a very grateful attitude young Steve.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 09:43 [#00555088]
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theo, i never said anyone HAD to go to the site.
I didnt force anyone. You saw the topic name, if you didnt care, you shouldnt have gone.
The fact is, I posted it, cause I got a bunch of friends here, who for the past 2 months have been asking me when the site will be up.
So I let them know.
And all this talk about autechre. Fuck man, did you even listen to the other tracks? They are completely different, and NON autechre. And these are the tracks I love the most.
So what if red flower sounds like ae. (and I honestly dont think it does... sure its disjointed, but autechre isnt the only pepple to make disjointed music... their sound is more granular, where as mine was sample based).
The point is, you got all righteous for no fucking reason. and you acted like a dick.
Totally uncalled for.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 09:50 [#00555094]
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uncalled for? u put it out there it's open to criticism.. panned or praised
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 09:53 [#00555098]
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again, criticism is fine
but come on dude. seriously, whats the point of destructive criticism?
You have no tact.
You could have said everything you wanted to say in a polite manner.
There was no reason to be such a bitch.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 09:55 [#00555102]
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Five cats are better then one dog in my opinion. I like coffee so strong you need to drink it before it turns into a solid. I have no trouble with Zeus and I only gave Red Flower a listen. I instantly thought AE, Then I instantly thought no it's a development in the style of AE, then I thought 'Instant Coffee'
Oh and I also thought 'So how the fuck did he do that? Bastard, I wish I could.'
Providing and adapting is good. I will listen to more of your music when I'm not unhappy Zeus.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 09:57 [#00555103]
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Hahahah! Sorry Zeus but you are one sad cunt.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 09:59 [#00555104]
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love you too jarwiskyory
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:04 [#00555110]
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are you crying over there? believe me if it weren't so horribly pretentious I wouldn't attack it like this.. that was your first mistake
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:06 [#00555114]
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pretentious?
Ok, the bio, yeah. And thats been discussed. And its been removed.
Other wise, I fail to see hows its pretentious.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 10:07 [#00555117]
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Oh c'mon children, Let it drop. It will go no place. :>
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:08 [#00555119]
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I have to agree, now the bio is gone there's nothing really pretentious about it. You could argue that the song titles are a little, but that is largely subjective and I think most electronic musicians make titles that could be deemed pretentious. I know I do.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:09 [#00555120]
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"the age of the prophets, the great schism and the alkjasfjhkjshaskg -- are u fucking kidding me?!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 10:10 [#00555122]
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Spikee Dragon - I am better then you (Incomprehensibly better than your Remix).wav
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:11 [#00555124]
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right.. like everyone comes out with these "4hci. CVV" titles.. on drukqs it was funny.. but when not done w/ tongue embedded in cheek, it comes off a bit affected
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:12 [#00555125]
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did you read the comment?
its a reference to one of my favorite books.
I hardly see anything wrong with that.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 10:14 [#00555127]
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*rolls his eyes* I'm off. I hope you all have a great weekend.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:14 [#00555129]
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yeah I mean, what should I call them?
"my trizack"
"some phuqed up betz"
Its my music. I take it seriously. The names having meaning to me.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-14 10:17 [#00555133]
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Not even watmm cares, eh Zeus? What a troubled life you lead.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:18 [#00555135]
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I love you too jarkwiskory
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:20 [#00555139]
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no but I mean let's think about limits here.. they're embarassing.. 'a cowering animal in the snow'? come on
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:21 [#00555141]
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they = the song titles..
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:22 [#00555143]
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I think Theo thinks that particular one was too long (correct me if I'm wrong theo- I'm sure you will ;) )
It does remind me a bit of that album by some american Alanis Morrisette type singer whose album title is about 57 words long (something to do with chess).
To expect people to be bothered to remember the titles/write them down to discuss the music is where you could consture them to be pretentious.
I always refer to "Mt Saint Michel Mix + St Michaels Mount" as "St. Michaels Mt." or something similair- people always know what you're on about if they're familiar with the track. Some of Boards of Canada's tracks are the same. The difference is that with known artists people tend to be interested enough to be bothered to remember full titles.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:22 [#00555144]
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An Animal Alone in the Snow
again, if you dont like it, who cares.
You dont gotta sit here and rip me apart because you have different tastes.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:23 [#00555145]
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consture= construe
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:29 [#00555150]
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it's not just that they were long.. they're just so over the top and affected
again, I'm trying to steer your creativity in your OWN direction.. when I was getting started I used to sort of follow the formulae of certain producers and pastiches of certain tracks I admired.. from this , and once I got comfortable making tracks , my own touch on the music became more and more noticalbe
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:32 [#00555151]
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Id argue that my tracks have ALOT of my touch in them.
But what do I know.
Im just some fool fucking around on fruityloops trying to front as an artist.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:33 [#00555154]
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right. .. soon you'll be a real artist with an identity working with more sophisticated software
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:35 [#00555156]
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and no one's falling for your sympathy bait, so save it
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-14 10:37 [#00555158]
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sarcasm my friend
and I dont want sympathy. I just want some freakin decency and respect. And I dont mean respect as in, I love you Kcinsu, your tracks rule. I mean respect in that people would be civil enough to be tactful, which you most certainly havnt
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-02-14 10:40 [#00555162]
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Interesting music. Nice d-sign.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 10:50 [#00555177]
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I thought it might be a little more freakin decent of me to be honest, rather than blow your tracks up to be something they're not
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-14 11:11 [#00555194]
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dude you opinions are find but now your really just getting mean and annoying trying to find something of his to bash. your original comments were your opinion, fine, let it go.
zeus- forget it man not worth it, so what if he doesnt like - dont give him the satisfaction of getting angry
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-02-14 11:16 [#00555207]
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BOTH THEO AND ZUES ARE IDIOTS AND AFTER THIS HORRIBLE THREAD I DONT FEEL LIKE COMMING HERE ANYMORE
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-14 11:17 [#00555209]
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Dolleater, bye.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-14 11:19 [#00555211]
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*yyyyyyyyyaaawn*
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-14 11:27 [#00555216]
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why is everyone getting all blown out of shape? If theo doesn't like the music then that's fine.
If you link your work on a MB you should expect some "destructive" critisim because not everyone's opinions fit together jigsaw puzzle style.
That's what makes the world great, disagreements and contrasting opinions. It makes individuals out of people. Getting all hurt and bothered by ones opinions isn't worth it. Just say 'thanks' and keep doing what you like to do...
making music.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-02-14 11:28 [#00555217]
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Children....children....children!
Be nice.....
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