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nacmat
on 2003-05-28 16:04 [#00718573]
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I am sorry for my friend woofer
the first half was really nice but then the rest was boring... buffon was great in penaltys but juve shot real bad ones and didda stopped 3
congrats for milan, but still feel sorry for my italian friend
this thread will still have some more posts to discuss about th whole year, but so far I must say that it was great posting here... thanks to woofer for creating the thread and thanks to everybody that kept posting here instead of opening a thread every week.
see you all around
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2003-05-28 19:30 [#00718864]
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sorry woofer for juve losing
and sorry for saying this :
how many times must Italian teams bore us to death with 0-0 finals ? remember world cup 94 ? AC Milan scored how many goals in their last 5 champions league games ? was it 2 goals ?
In five games ? Thats unacceptable entertainment for winners of a big competition. I really wish we'd seen a Madrid v Manchester final, with Madrid winning 3-2. At least we'd have seen some good goals.
Apparently the second half and extra time were even worse than the first half, after which i went down the pub with my friend, because the first half was so tedious.
the champions league has let everyone down again. time to change the format to either a big league or a straight forward knock-out. This league/knockout mix makes losers end up as winners and it degrades football.
0-0. what a surprise. half of them couldn't even score the penalties. pfff.....
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-05-29 00:21 [#00719122]
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here i am :( well, i'm used to lose final with juve, but this is really hard to digest for 2 reasons:
1st: 'cos it was against an great italian rival as milan 2nd: 'cos we lost only after last shoot in the penalties
it's less hard to lose in the semifinals that lose in the grandfinal... you can touch the cup with fingers of your hands and then... dream is over.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-05-29 00:24 [#00719124]
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yeah, nacmat i'm really happy for this football forum too ;)
we had a lot of fun with our fav sport here, with nice argue and comments.
it was my fav champion's league edition 'cos of this too ;)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-05-29 00:28 [#00719127]
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you said: "I really wish we'd seen a Madrid v Manchester final, with Madrid winning 3-2. At least we'd have seen some good goals"
I think we all saw good goals in semifinal Juventus-Real Madrid=3-1 too, isn't it? ;)
Anyway i agree, final of yesterday was pretty bore with few emotions (apart for final penalties)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-05-29 01:25 [#00719145]
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it was a decent final... just because there aren't goals doesn't make it boring... and as for shevchenko's original goal... there's no way the ref could have allowed that when the milan striker (Rui Costa, was it?) was right next to Buffon in an interfering position...
Trezeguet played like shit... i can understand why Lippi didn't sub him, but i think he should have... i would have taken him off instead of Camoranesi, put in Di Vaio perhaps.... oh well... at least it was an Italian team
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-29 01:27 [#00719146]
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at least we saw real against united in 2 games which were really good-especially the 2nd game...that was real football
(woofer, sorry for juve...)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-29 01:29 [#00719147]
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im not sure who was interfering...but that was just camera angle-you should see that from different position and you'd know-there was no interfering!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-05-29 01:33 [#00719149]
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it's not that he physically touched Buffon, but he is standing close enough to him, that the ref has to call it, he is in the play, and that's what matters... not that it really matters, because the game would've played out very differently had the goal held...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-29 01:35 [#00719150]
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he wasnt close to buffon is what im trying to say...
and if that goal would stand the game we would watch a better game
but its all good anyway...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-05-29 01:37 [#00719152]
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damn Juve! why couldn't you pull out a win?! damn Nedved... watching from the bench! WAH!
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nacmat
on 2003-05-29 03:52 [#00719245]
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the amizing thing about football... we can all have our opinion.... and all of them are valid
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-05-29 06:15 [#00719345]
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about Trezeguet and Camoranesi, I'm totally agree with you. Why not DiVaio... why?
then... i couldn't believe to my eyes when i saw Montero near to shoot the penalty... why didn't shoot players as Tacchinardi, Zambrotta or Thuram? why?
Montero is a good defensor but his feet are of marble.
Montero who shoot a penalty is like AFX who play Latin Pop... this isn't his job.
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nacmat
on 2003-05-29 06:41 [#00719375]
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1986
barça lost champions league final in penalty shot also
you know how many did we score? ...
0... yes, the other team scored only 2 but we 0... that was really sad way of loosing
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-05-29 07:07 [#00719396]
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yeah, i understand what you mean :-/
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nacmat
on 2003-05-29 07:50 [#00719450]
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still...juve wrote one of the most beautiful pages this year... that 3-1 against madrid
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Spacecadet
on 2003-05-29 07:52 [#00719454]
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i mostly enjoyed the gattuso/davids battle in midfield, the defenders on both teams were first class, and buffon's save from the diving header would have been the save of the tournament, had they won the game
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-30 05:59 [#00720752]
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please let's kill off the fucking group system. another final like this and i will never watch football again :( shame, shame, shame, i say.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 10:36 [#00751601]
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nacmat
can you tell me how atletico bilbao is doing in the spanish championship?
how many rounds till the end of the championship?
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 10:40 [#00751609]
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today is the final day!!!!!!
this is the situation
madrid - bilbao real sociedad - atletico de madrid barça - celta
league positions:
1st real madrid 2nd real sociedad (2 points behind)
6th bilbao 7th barça (2 points behind)
if madrid wins.... madrid is the champion if madrid doesnt win and real sociedad wins... then real sociedad is the champion
bilbao is fighting with barcelona for the last uefa cup place, so if bilbao wins, madrid might loose the league but barça wont get to uefa cup.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 10:44 [#00751618]
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uhh, that should be a great game today then (the real-bilbao one)
what if real draws with bilbao and real sociedad wins atletico madrid - that would mean the same amount of points?
are they going for the goal difference or the team that won more games wins the championship?
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 11:03 [#00751667]
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in that case real sociedad wins too... cos they won 4-1 at home and tied 1-1 in bernabeu
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 11:05 [#00751670]
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to sum up:
if real sociedad doesnt win today... real madrid is champion
if real sociedad wins today: real madrid must also win to be champion
and bilbao must win or wait for barça not to win to get to uefa
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 11:05 [#00751674]
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oh, god...i hope bilbao take bribes :D
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 11:08 [#00751682]
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today is one of those days that make me love football
for me the perfect end would be: (remember I am a barça supporter)
real madrid and bilbao draw: real sociedad and barça win:
real sociedad wins the championship barça goes to uefa
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 11:12 [#00751691]
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yeah, i cant wait to see the match im going to watch real-bilbao one
anyway, i hope real doesnt let del bosque go if they lose this championship - i think he has a lot to do with this attractive style mardrid is playing
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 11:15 [#00751698]
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I agree about del bosque... and he also managed to keep the peace in a dificult group, with so many stars... madrid should keep him
after all he has won 1 league and 2 european cups
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 11:18 [#00751704]
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any another thing - unlike many managers he really seems very calm most of the time
and yeah, you totally have a point there...not easy to keep all those stars happy
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 11:18 [#00751705]
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any=and
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 14:59 [#00752084]
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cool, we can both be happy now
real=champios
barca plays uefa next year
happy happy happy
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 18:21 [#00752440]
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well...ronaldo and zidane... and all of them really were great today... they are the best in spain
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-06-23 00:51 [#00752712]
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congs to barça, i'm really happy to see them in europe next year ;)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-06-23 10:37 [#00753338]
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Juventus isn't strong enough for next champion's league... c'mon... we need more champions.
I think barça will back good next year, they're really actives on the market.
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