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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-10 02:35 [#01917047]
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heard it now. very similar to spokes, i dont mind it but its definately not my favourite plaid. im still going to buy the proper thing, to see the videos too.
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nacmat
on 2006-06-11 11:17 [#01917791]
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what is the dvd I got to get? pal or the other?
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nacmat
on 2006-06-11 11:32 [#01917799]
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I need an answer
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-06-11 11:36 [#01917802]
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DVD-Video discs require a DVD-drive and an MPEG-2 decoder (e.g. a DVD-player, or a DVD computer drive with a software DVD player). Commercial DVD movies are encoded using a combination of MPEG-2 compressed video and audio of varying formats (often multi-channel formats as described below). Typical data rates for DVD movies range from 3–10 Mbit/s, and the bit rate is usually adaptive. The typical video resolution for an NTSC disc is 720 × 480, while a PAL disc is 720 × 576. The specifications for video files on a DVD can be any of the following:
* Up to 9.8 Mbit/s (9800 kbit/s) MPEG2 video * Up to 1.856 Mbit/s (1856 kbit/s) MPEG1 video
* PAL:
720 × 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called full D1) 704 × 576 pixels MPEG2 352 × 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the China Video Disc standard)
352 × 288 pixels MPEG2 352 × 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
* NTSC:
720 × 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called full D1) 704 × 480 pixels MPEG2 352 × 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the China Video Disc standard)
352 × 240 pixels MPEG2 352 × 240 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
All MPEG video must be 25 frames per second on PAL DVDs. On NTSC DVDs MPEG-2 video can be either 29.97 frames per second or 23.976 frames per second, (with 3:2 pulldown) while MPEG-1 video can only be 29.97 frames per second. Interlacing is only supported for MPEG-2 video on both PAL and NTSC DVDs. 16:9 anamorphic video is only supported at 720x576/480. Note that some DVD-hardware or software players may play discs whose MPEG files do not conform to the above standards- however these discs are non-compliant with the specification for DVD-video. Some hardware players will now play DVD-ROMs or CD-ROMs containing MPEG video files - these are 'unauthored' and lack the file structure that defines a DVD-video. (These files contain extra information, such as the number of video tracks, chapters and links to extra features, which DVD players use to navigate a DVD-video).
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nacmat
on 2006-06-11 11:55 [#01917808]
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so what shall I get?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-06-11 13:15 [#01917826]
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PAL
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-11 13:58 [#01917841]
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PAL:Is common amongst European contries NTSC:common amongst America
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 13:59 [#01917842]
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its PAL 2 in UK. is it 1 in europe?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:01 [#01917845]
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generally, PAL is slightly better quality than NTSC anyway.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:03 [#01917846]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ezkerraldean: #01917842
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what..?
PAL is the standard for Europe and Europe also falls into region 2.
most of the world views the UK to be part of Europe.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:06 [#01917847]
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well, yeah i know it technically is, but i thought it had its own DVD code. the whole idea seems a bit random and pointless
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-11 14:12 [#01917849]
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it's all based on being able to bring out the DVD version of a film in one part of the world and still being able to bring out the cinematic version somewhere else and making lots of money out of both!
0 Informal term meaning "playable in all regions" 1 Bermuda, Canada, United States and U.S. territories 2 The Middle East, Western Europe, Central Europe, Egypt, Greenland, Japan, Lesotho, South Africa and Swaziland
3 Southeast Asia, Hong Kong, Macau, South Korea and Taiwan 4 Central America, the Caribbean, Mexico, Oceania, South America, Australia
5 The rest of Africa, Former Soviet Union, the Indian subcontinent, Mongolia, North Korea
6 Mainland China 7 Reserved for future use 8 International venues such as aircraft, cruise ships, etc.
7 will probably be Moonbase 2.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:14 [#01917850]
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aha!
yeah i thought so, its basically just another way of ripping people off
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-06-11 14:20 [#01917855]
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beta max!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-11 14:20 [#01917858]
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betamax beats the shit out of these lame newfangled DVD thingeys. i love those big chunky black old things!
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nacmat
on 2006-06-11 16:57 [#01917956]
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so what is this?
a new album?
is it good?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-06-11 18:52 [#01918052]
Points: 9099 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #01917956
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es un PALazo! hah
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-11 19:22 [#01918066]
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yes
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-06-11 19:35 [#01918070]
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Poor Plaid 8 (
even they think it's crap. I hope there's a corner they'll turn pretty soon.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-11 20:07 [#01918083]
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I bet it took too long, too ambitious, then it all went a bit pooy. I am encouraged by that track on the Renaissance thing and I think they should knock out a punk IDM lp in record time.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-06-11 23:18 [#01918126]
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why won't they release their other, non-collaborated, non-crap album? that's probably already finished too by now. everybody would be happy again and warp sells double the amount. it's a win-win solution.
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Roboman
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2006-06-13 02:54 [#01918863]
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and the videos are great so they´ve managed to achieve an interesting release. but as far as the music goes i would say it´s the weakest they put out
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-06-13 03:34 [#01918875]
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What are you all talking about.. this is an awesome Plaid release!
I can't wait to get/see the whole package.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-13 03:41 [#01918879]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular | Followup to Roboman: #01918863
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so why don't you just fucking NOT listen to this release. you already told what you think about it in this thread, thank you, why repeat it over ?
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-06-13 03:45 [#01918881]
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Because it's Roboman, he must like to repeat himself.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-13 03:48 [#01918883]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular | Followup to Aesthetics: #01918881
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my bad then
i shall give him some computer love
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-13 08:06 [#01918981]
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I remember people saying "Spokes" was crap when that came out on this forum, and when I heard it I was pleasantly shocked that it was so beautiful. In fact, I really can't understand the cold reception it recieved; it's really powerful stuff, and I've noticed people who aren't normally into this music also appreciate it.
I haven't heard the new stuff yet, but I don't think this harsh reception means anything.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-13 21:32 [#01919558]
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This harsh reception means nothing at all.
spokes and p-brane spun all weekend :)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-06-13 22:49 [#01919588]
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Super Positions
The lead track 'Super Positions' is taken from the upcoming Plaid & Bob Jaroc CD + DVD project Greedy Baby.. :=)
Sounds very nice, cant wait to see it with visuals
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-14 02:22 [#01919607]
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i predict "I Citizen the Loathesome" to be awesome
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:39 [#01919613]
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caretstik on super positions? ive already got that!
video shows buildings and streets split into blocks like the warp 10+1 10+2 12+3 covers, all the blocks flashing and fading. quite good. track is boring though
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:48 [#01919614]
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caretstik
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-14 02:54 [#01919617]
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not illegal !!!
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-06-14 11:44 [#01919912]
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"Super positions" is nice ! Haven't heard the rest yet.
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staz
on 2006-06-14 11:45 [#01919913]
Points: 9844 Status: Regular | Followup to obara: #01919607
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ahahhahahahha
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kittylamurka
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-14 17:45 [#01920192]
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might be seeing them on Fri
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-03 07:56 [#01964248]
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this album is a grower. i just discovered another layer in "The Launching of Big Face". amazing.
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staz
on 2006-09-03 07:59 [#01964249]
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the launching of utter crap
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-03 08:06 [#01964250]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular | Followup to staz: #01964249
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about me you are officially banned
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-03 10:25 [#01964323]
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the critical community seems to act like hales hitting a sloping roof: they fall into one or the other extreme end - and, to extend the metaphor, fall down one or the other drain...
For me this album is first and foremost a collaboration, not only between Andy, Ed and Bob, but also between audio and video.
Even having said that, there are a few standalone tracks that should work without the visuals, including Super Positions, Return of Super Barrio and The Launching of Big Face.
Since the audio leaked before the video, I understand why some people would have been disappointed, but the commercial end product is an excellent release, to be enjoyed in a good audio-visual set up. I'm looking forward to hearing it on 5.1!
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