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offline big from lsg on 2006-03-12 11:51 [#01858303]
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my logic is right though you might fully disagree with it,
maybe itll bring down sex crimes only 10% but that's still
good

anyway this isn't my main argument why im for prostitution,
it was just something i wanted tridenti to think about. it's
more that im liberal at this (where im not in the drugs
thing apparantly)

frankly i think this logic is bad:
but then isn't legalizing prostitution kind of like if a
government were to, say endorse men's right to a woman's
body any time he feels like it? how's that philosophy gonna
stop rape?

because people won't be influenced that easily by the morals
a government holds.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-12 14:07 [#01858485]
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but then isn't legalizing prostitution kind of like if a

government were to, say endorse men's right to a woman's
body any time he feels like it? how's that philosophy gonna

stop rape?


although as far as I'm concerned the whole 'legalising
prostitution will decrease number of rape victims'-thing is
besides the point and very hard to prove either way, paying
for sex with a consenting adult is hardly the same as rape.
you're equation is strange, to say the least.

the government wouldn't be saying men have the right to a
woman's body any time they feel like it, simply because the
women would have to consent to the sexual encounter. I don't
see what the motivation for this consent would have to do
with anything - when is consent to have sex the right
consent? when the woman says she loves the man? when she
doesn't ask for money?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-12 15:10 [#01858568]
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being really attractive can have its negatives, too.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-12 15:11 [#01858570]
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Yall should see this hbo doc 'hookers at the point; really
grim. These women need help. Or a place to be safe.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-03-12 15:13 [#01858573]
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Anyway being ugly only prevent us from having a girlfriend.
Who cares anyway ? There're plenty of other exciting things
to do alone ! Just stop thinking about love and sex.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-12 15:30 [#01858587]
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change your av


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-12 15:56 [#01858620]
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i already said i wouldn't follow you in the cigarette
analogy, this isn't side stepping, it's just disagreeing.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-03-12 15:58 [#01858621]
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it's not a fucking analogy, it's a very apt comparison.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-12 16:08 [#01858632]
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that doesn't change how i feel about this
because i just don't agree



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-12 16:18 [#01858642]
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I'll weigh in here.

It doesn't fucking matter.

Free fucking will to make the choice of whether you fucking
yourself up with drugs or smoke yourself to death.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-12 16:23 [#01858646]
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what about prostitutes?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-12 16:29 [#01858650]
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No plans to visit one so I don't care what they do.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-03-12 16:31 [#01858653]
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haha :D


 

offline mimi on 2006-03-12 22:33 [#01858768]
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you dumb fucks infuriate me, all i am trying to say is that
it doesn't make sense for big to say, well the government
can't allow drug use because what sort of message would that
send and then say that the government can allow
prostitution, because of course that sends no message at
all!

anyway if it came down to it i would put my vote towards
legalizing prostitution because imo by bringing it to the
surface people could maybe see how ugly it really is. it's
not about the "right" consent at all because when a man
stays rich and keeps a woman poor so that she will have to
sell him sex, umm that kind of transcends consent. sure,
she said yes, her personal choice etc, but look at the
bigger picture please

no potential rapists are going to see some woman that they
fancy at a bar and decide, after getting a 'no', that, oh
well, they can just purchase a hooker. umm....that is
unrealistic. rapists don't rape because they got horny,
everybody gets horny, not everybody rapes. rapists just
think that they have some right mandated by god or something
to the body of whichever woman is unlucky enough to be
around.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-13 01:07 [#01858778]
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ok you should have said you were talking about that, i've
adressed this already

"
anyway if it came down to it i would put my vote towards
legalizing prostitution because imo by bringing it to the
surface people could maybe see how ugly it really is. it's
not about the "right" consent at all because when a man
stays rich and keeps a woman poor so that she will have to
sell him sex, umm that kind of transcends consent. sure,
she said yes, her personal choice etc, but look at the
bigger picture please "

not all prostitutes are like in pretty woman, lol. also a
prostitute could save money and get out. but i do agree it's
not pretty

i pretty much agree on the rape thing. this is just some
argument i picked up once. it's the only one i can think of
as a pro, besides the liberal argument.
rape is about power and violence and nasty stuff like that,
but i can imagine people being driven to this from
frustration and being able to have sex might lessen this.
more then is might stimulate rape as you said. but this is
hard to prove.
however going at it just theoretically i don't think it's
reasoning the wrong way around to give these men what they
want. prostitution might be natural, because as they say
it's the oldest profession in the world


 

offline xkejjer from Malta on 2006-03-13 01:20 [#01858780]
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i am not ugly


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-03-13 02:46 [#01858788]
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i hope monoid never rapes.

i hope combo never rapes either.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-03-13 02:47 [#01858789]
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or swears, for that matter.


 

offline felch king on 2006-03-13 03:20 [#01858792]
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I AM UGLEE AND AH STILL GET THA PUSSY. I JUST GO FOR EVEN
UGLIER WOMEN! LOL. :~)


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-03-13 03:23 [#01858794]
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what about love ?


 

offline felch king on 2006-03-13 03:26 [#01858796]
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YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN IN DAYLIGHT WITH THE FAT BITCHES I
FUCK, LET ALONE FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM!!


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-03-13 03:29 [#01858799]
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u just wank into women, don't u ?


 

offline felch king on 2006-03-13 03:38 [#01858808]
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SOMETIMES OVER THEM, SOMETIMES INTO THEM. SOMETIMES INTO A
CONDOM, IF I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-03-13 04:15 [#01858826]
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one day you'll fall in love with one of these ugly fatties
then u'll marry and have a lot of fat children


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-03-13 04:26 [#01858834]
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i am beautiful, no matter what they say
words can't bring me down


Attached picture

 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-03-13 04:27 [#01858836]
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you're beautiful

you're beautiful

(...)

James Blunt said


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2006-03-13 06:16 [#01858886]
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how'd she get so fat?


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-03-13 06:31 [#01858888]
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so fat......and so far......!


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2006-03-13 06:33 [#01858889]
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unbelievable...there goes my dirty fantasy.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-03-13 08:15 [#01858926]
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you have an verry ugly perrsonality


 

offline mimi on 2006-03-13 08:20 [#01858929]
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pretty woman, well we're done here


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-03-13 08:38 [#01858936]
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i think they should make harrd drrugs and prrostitution
legal so that i don't have to worrrry about going to jail.
let people live theirr lives how they want


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-13 08:40 [#01858941]
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what are you people arguing about?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-03-13 08:42 [#01858946]
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i knew you wouldn't appreciate that when i read it

regardless of whether he likes them or not, i think big is
just plain bad at discussions


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-03-13 08:56 [#01858958]
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the best way to bring crime down is to legalise everything
and have the government quality check it

"all rapists must use condoms so as to not cause
unwanted pregnancy"


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-03-13 09:18 [#01858966]
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go to the bunny ranch


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-13 15:07 [#01859161]
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mimi and redrum can't distinguish between bad argument and a
differing opinion
when you can't respect your opponent you are a lousy
debater

both of you are just looking for the easiest way of putting
me down so you can wallow in your own right:
mimi said:
" it's not about the "right" consent at all because when a
man
stays rich and keeps a woman poor so that she will have to
sell him sex, umm that kind of transcends consent. sure,
she said yes, her personal choice etc "
=pretty woman and mimi's bad argument, a little joke about
that from me and wallowing of you two
same goes for redrums cigarettes, apparantly the only right
way debatting about this is admitting redrum is right about
and therefor drugs should be legalised

i like debates here in so far they can teach me some other
views. both of your fixation with your own right have
prevented that from happening however



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-13 15:26 [#01859180]
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hey, I never said it was a cure for rape, I don't think it
is - you were the one who started talking about rape (or
perhaps bip did, in which case you can ignore that
comment).

where the hell did all of this come from:

"because when a man stays rich and keeps a woman poor so
that she will have to sell him sex, umm that kind of
transcends consent. sure, she said yes, her personal choice
etc, but look at the bigger picture please"


are you saying all women who are prostitutes are doing it
because of The Man Holding Her Down? I just don't get where
this comes from. certainly, there is a group of women who
are forced towards prostitution, but legalisation would only
make it easier to fight that.

but there are also plenty of women who are prostitutes out
of choice - it really is an outdated view of prostitution
that it's all forced.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-03-13 15:42 [#01859190]
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yes.

what's up with that anyhow? what's xlt got against Ellens?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-13 15:49 [#01859194]
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maybe someone was afraid swears, monoid and combo would rape
the nice ellens and closed the thread for their safety.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-03-13 15:51 [#01859196]
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Well, whatever happend in this thread, it surely doesn't
sound very cool..


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-03-13 15:53 [#01859198]
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..So, maybe it was for the best that we shuffled
teh Ellens out of here quickly.

Exellent modwork after all!


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-13 15:56 [#01859199]
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*starts harassing ellen


 

offline mimi on 2006-03-13 16:05 [#01859214]
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i typed out like 8 different responses but got tired of
xltronic along the way



 

offline big from lsg on 2006-03-13 16:11 [#01859219]
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i wonder what i do it for as well


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-03-13 16:19 [#01859220]
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the trick is to just type in stream of conciousness and hit
reply really quick before you have a chance to second guess
it.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-03-13 16:25 [#01859223]
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FUCK YOU YOUR ALL WRONG!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-03-13 16:27 [#01859224]
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this is the thread where everyone hates each other,
right?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-03-13 16:29 [#01859225]
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get the FUCK out of here whit that shit!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-13 16:30 [#01859226]
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HITLER


 


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