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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:24 [#01552927]
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yep well, err...
most downloadable bootdisks are installers, not zipped disk contents. im guessing here, but most of these installers must be run from windows, or things fuck up. so, i think you're not able to boot your bootdisks because you are making them in linux
choose your own adventure now:
a) go to a pc store or a friend, ask if they can make a boot disc with cd support (or make one using one of those downloaded things)
b) panic c) google how to make a bootable dos disk under linux
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 12:24 [#01552928]
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oh crap.. i should've paid attention.. yeah, you're downloading the windows version..
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:25 [#01552929]
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anyone: what filesystem does linux use on floppy discs?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:26 [#01552930]
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oh, actually a friend did use windows to make this boot disk. but i only have linux to rely on at the moment since he's not around.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 12:27 [#01552931]
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go into the command line, cd to your dban directory, and run this command:
dd if=dban-*.img of=/dev/floppy bs=1024
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:29 [#01552935]
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dd: opening `dban-*.img': No such file or directory
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:32 [#01552940]
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hmmm my pc is self built and i dont care about disc drives. maybe someone could make a ME bootdisc, zip the contents (make sure to include hidden files as well) and put it on the internet. then you'd copy those to a disc (does a bootable dos disc require FAT to be.. bootable, anyone?) and boot from that
but, because you havent been able to boot devices other then your harddisc at all, there might be something else that's fucking up.
other suggestion: make a small FAT partition, put the files on that required to boot dos, delete your linux partition or configure GRUB to boot the FAT thing. not recommended, because you only have one pc to work from, & if you cant get the cd rom drive to work you're nailed.
also: you have to cd to dban first!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:33 [#01552941]
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i tried filling in the * with the rest of the filename and got: dd: opening `/dev/floppy': Permission denied
i don't know if that means anything though.
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:34 [#01552943]
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guess: no floppy inserted / no root privileges
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:35 [#01552945]
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also: you have to cd to dban first!
i did...
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:36 [#01552947]
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hahahahaha
oh man, maybe your pc is haunted. call the ghostbusters.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:36 [#01552950]
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floppy is in - it wasn't read when i pressed enter, though.
is there a way to enable root privileges since obviously i should have them?
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 12:38 [#01552952]
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dunno about the distribution you're using, and im a newbie to linux so i could be wrong. not a clue in the world
someone put a bootdisc in the mail for him!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:40 [#01552956]
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heh, thanks a lot for trying. at this point i am screwed with this stuff... i have no way of making any sound recordings on here, nothing works properly (even the browser is fucked now)... it's such a useless mess.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-04 12:41 [#01552959]
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Damn Chris i only just read this thread. That sucks man. I hope things get worked out for you. I would be furious!
My XP has never let me down or gave me problems. Try it if you havent if you can ever get anything installed
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 12:46 [#01552972]
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cripes... try:
dd if=dban-*.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024
..or..
dd if=dban-*.img of=/dev/floppy/0 bs=1024
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:48 [#01552977]
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thanks. i've been really frustrated for sure. it really seems like everything that could go wrong has...
anyway, i'm really sorry for dragging this thread on and on. i don't mean to be such a complainer about it - it's just awful losing the ability to efficiently make music recordings and do everything you have to do (especially since i owe people projects that may not be completed at this point).
i appreciate everyone's help a lot. hopefully i can do something for you guys someday. ecnadniarb, epohs + "sproky" - i'm basically broke or i'd paypal you some $ for sure.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:51 [#01552980]
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default@libranet:~$ cd dban default@libranet:~/dban$ dd if=dban-*.img of/dev/fd0 bs=1024
dd: unrecognized option `of/dev/fd0' Try `dd --help' for more information. default@libranet:~/dban$ dd if=dban-*.img of=/dev/floppy/0 bs=1024
dd: opening `dban-*.img': No such file or directory default@libranet:~/dban$
default@libranet:~/dban$ dd --help Usage: dd [OPTION]... Copy a file, converting and formatting according to the options.
bs=BYTES force ibs=BYTES and obs=BYTES cbs=BYTES convert BYTES bytes at a time conv=KEYWORDS convert the file as per the comma separated keyword list
count=BLOCKS copy only BLOCKS input blocks ibs=BYTES read BYTES bytes at a time if=FILE read from FILE instead of stdin obs=BYTES write BYTES bytes at a time of=FILE write to FILE instead of stdout seek=BLOCKS skip BLOCKS obs-sized blocks at start of output
skip=BLOCKS skip BLOCKS ibs-sized blocks at start of input
--help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit
BLOCKS and BYTES may be followed by the following multiplicative suffixes:
xM M, c 1, w 2, b 512, kB 1000, K 1024, MB 1,000,000, M 1,048,576,
GB 1,000,000,000, G 1,073,741,824, and so on for T, P, E, Z, Y.
Each KEYWORD may be:
ascii from EBCDIC to ASCII ebcdic from ASCII to EBCDIC ibm from ASCII to alternated EBCDIC block pad newline-terminated records with spaces to cbs-size
unblock replace trailing spaces in cbs-size records with newline
lcase change upper case to lower case notrunc do not truncate the output file ucase change lower case to upper case swab swap every pair of input bytes noerror continue after read errors sync pad every input block with NULs to ibs-size; when used
with block or unblock, pad with spaces rather than NULs
Report bugs to .
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 12:55 [#01552989]
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hmm... do you know what linux refers to your floppy drive as?
it should be in /etc/fstab
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 12:55 [#01552990]
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for that matter, will linux recognize your floppy drive at all?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 12:59 [#01552995]
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yeah, linux definitely recognizes it. i just formatted a floppy disk with linux an hour ago as a test.
ohhh, duh! floppy (fd0 - not mounted) of all the stupid fucking things. let me try it again...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:02 [#01553000]
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dd if=dban-1.0.4_i386.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 13:02 [#01553001]
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wtf? i mounted it and it still doesn't work. i tried all three commands. i'm going to check on what you asked me before now.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 13:03 [#01553002]
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yes!!!!!!! :D
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 13:07 [#01553005]
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hmm... it definitely did something, but when i looked in the disk, there was nothing in it. it was definitely doing something with the disk...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:08 [#01553009]
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there's nothing on the floppy?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 13:10 [#01553011]
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nothing on the floppy.
i did it again and it was exactly the same:
default@libranet:~/dban$ dd if=dban-1.0.4_i386.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024
1440+0 records in 1440+0 records out 1474560 bytes transferred in 48.485200 seconds (30413 bytes/sec)
default@libranet:~/dban$
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:11 [#01553013]
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wierd... try rebooting with the floppy in, and seeing if it works.
maybe linux just isn't seeing the files for some reason.
i have no idea really. i've never even seen a computer. :)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 13:13 [#01553014]
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haha.... ok, i'll give it a try.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:16 [#01553015]
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if that doesn't work, reformat the floppy, and see if you're able to write to it.. just create a text file with some garbage in it, and see if you can copy it to the disk or something.
maybe /dev/fd0 is being mounted read-only..
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:22 [#01553023]
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*** And that was the last time r40f was ever seen on teh int0rwebs ***
:D
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 13:23 [#01553025]
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jesus shope you're basically a linulord!
.. if you want (if this fails and if you are like super duper desperate) i'll get you a copy of a bootable win98 installation cd, that supports cdrom and whatsnot. international mail would take 5 days or something, so you might try to borrow something off someone.
its frustrating that i dont know anything good to say >:(
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:24 [#01553026]
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linux kicks the shit out of me (in the un-fun way) on a daily basis.
:(
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-04 13:26 [#01553027]
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If i can scrounge up some cash I could try to get him a disk. I dont think mail to him would take that long but then again i got to scounge up cash
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-04 13:28 [#01553029]
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heh i had to give a presentation about something nanotechy once, and i had a powerpoint thing on my ubuntu running laptop...
turns out it hates you when you try to display on something else than the lcd thingey. complete and utter crashness when i connected it to the beamer :D
.. good thing openoffice has an export to .ppt button. mounting something fails 90% of the time, but i was able to access a USB-stick :D
moral of the story: dont use linux for 'important' stuff if you're clueless like me
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:31 [#01553035]
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yeah. i seem to've learned that linux is really only awesome if you are a seasoned linux developer.
once you've had 10 years of programming in C you are nearly ready to ask for support help in a linux forum.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 13:56 [#01553066]
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i'm pretty sure i just totally destroyed his computer.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-04 14:00 [#01553067]
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I wish i would have had his number because if his computer was fucked or having problems i could at least search for the answer for him while asking questions about what was wrong.
Wow it really looks like linux is complete shit. I am glad i have stayed with trusty window over the years
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-04 14:04 [#01553071]
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linux is fun to play with. (if you're into that sort of thing)
but, it can be a flaming whore-bitch when it wants to be.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-04 14:17 [#01553077]
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I'll take your word for it. I like windows because i can do things and not have to think. Its like a car that is automatic. You just dont have to think! its great.
When i feel like thinking i just run programs. I have many goodies now a days and that makes me smile on the inside!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-04 21:57 [#01553317]
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hey you guys are way generous and awesome, really!
what happened was (short version): epohs's hunch that the floppy was full of dban and linux just wasn't reading it was 100% correct. dban worked like a charm. so i formatted it.
then i got (from a friend) the necessary disks for re-installing windows. everything looked like it was finally working and then right after windows installer formatted my hd, it gave me an error message saying i was missing a file and it aborted setup. i then tried every possible permutation you can with this obnoxious setup program and it took hours, and nothing worked. same error message and aborted setup.
so i finally gave in and installed the same old linux. that's what i have now. i think that's just the end of the story - i don't see how anything is going to change with this computer.
a lot of highs and lows today. thanks everyone very much for putting up with it and helping me out. seriously, it's very cool. it doesn't matter that it didn't work - you all tried and i appreciate it.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-05 00:27 [#01553341]
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download and install ubuntu, then. seriously. it's so fucking easy it's not funny.
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-05 05:18 [#01553425]
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ive seen that, disc could be dirty or damaged. you sure you dont need anything? i think you're very close to solving the problem now.
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2005-04-05 06:46 [#01553462]
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Linux is only free if your time is worthless
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-05 07:22 [#01553490]
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i would punch linux in it's fat fucking face so hard if it walked into my office right now.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-05 08:25 [#01553520]
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ubuntu looks like the exact same thing i have now except brown.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-05 12:16 [#01553646]
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well its prob a bit late but microsoft has things on its website saying how to get rid of linux.
LAZY_TITLE
LAZY_TITLE
Linux has a high learning curve, but if you are using it for something technical its ace, but for just making music, playing games, etc windows or mac is a lot easier for people to pick up and play. driving circuits and things from parallel ports and doing cheapo software developments is for linux, web servers and things, not games at the mo. I'm sure it will get more user friendly, just think what msdos used to be like....
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-05 12:20 [#01553654]
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thanks for the links.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-05 17:24 [#01553879]
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Good to see you back Chris! Hopefully this can be tackled!
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freungesprok
on 2005-04-06 02:43 [#01554187]
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dos was fucking easy man, i got some computer degree involving that when i was a kid..
(or, maybe, you learn slower when you get older)
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