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i am really sorry for a non-music thread, but i am at my wits end with linux and i can't penetrate these computer forums whatsoever. basically, i don't want linux anymore. i want windows again. i hate linux and it sucks. everything about linux is worse than windows and it has been three wasted days that haven't accomplished anything except to irritate me. what happened was that my computer got wrecked a few days ago and i had to format the hd. i couldn't find my windows re-installation cdroms, so as a temp. measure i installed libranet (linux). this was good because i was able to get to my e-mail account and stuff like that. but that's the extent of it - everything else with linux has been a nightmare. nothing works and it constantly crashes. yes, linux crashes constantly - way more than windows ever did. now i've just found my windows re-installation cd and i'm hoping someone will tell me that i can use it to re-install windows. and if i can, please give me instructions on how to do it written as though you are talking to a slow child. please. thank you. |
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What version of windows? |
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doesn't restarting your computer with the install disc in your disc drive work? (just typed this over at BOH.. :) ) |
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i was going to say what qrter said. if that doesnt work, enter your bios and set it to boot from cd. |
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i had windows me. qrter - thanks, i've tried that and it doesn't seem to work. |
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ok, i tried that, but i probably did it wrong. please tell me how to do it? |
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I know, I just read your reply at BOH ha ha ha. interned is fun. |
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What happened when you tried it? |
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well, my bad for writing it on two forums! sorry! ;) |
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nothing - i couldn't get the screen to come up. |
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Start Windows ME until you get to the DOS prompt (either using a CD or startup disk) then run fdisk and remove the linux created partitions, then create a FAT32 partition and format the drive. |
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ok, so the key is getting to bios menu? |
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No...not necessarily. When yous tart your computer up is it going straight into linux or is it reading the CD and then stopping? |
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install debian ubuntu (linux) or |
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well, it first reads the cdrom drive and then floppy as a check or whatever, but it doesn't start the installation program in the cdrom, it just starts linux as usual. elusive - thanks, i'm sure linux is great for many people, but not for me. i'm really just fed up with it. |
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It sounds as though the Windows ME disc isn't a bootable CD, in which case you need a Windows ME startup floppy disk. You could always go into the BIOS and check the boot up sequence, usually pressing the Delete key or F2 or something lets you enter Setup. IT should tell you what key on the Post screen when you first turn you computer on. |
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yeah, i don't think it is a bootable cd at all. i still have my startup floppy - i'll give that a shot. thanks! |
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ok, so i got to the Setup menu and set it to boot from floppy and it loaded linux. then i tried it again and set the harddrive to disable and it still loaded linux. is linux an unstoppable killing machine or what? |
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all your base belong to linux! |
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yeah winME is no good man, NO GOOD and im no linux freak either just saying, some distros are MUCH MUCH easier than others, and do everything for you why not just format and install 2k/xp? |
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The startup disk must be whacked then. Are you sure you had boot from floppy as the first choice in the bios? |
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yeah, definitely sure. this sounds pretty bad if the startup disk suddenly doesn't work. that's really weird. |
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It was definitely a Windows startup disk? I know it sounds obvious but sometimes people copy over the disk when they install Linux. |
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i've used everything from a commadore64 and apple ii's to the newest macs and every version of windows since 3.1. out of all of those, nothing i've used has been nearly as counter-intuitive and malfunctioning as this linux nonsense. i just don't want to deal with it anymore. and btw, the most reliable setup i've ever used was windows me on this 3/4-year old dell. until the past month, the only times it would ever crash was if i was doing something really, really wrong. |
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that's a valid point. it was definitely a windows startup disk i made with my computer before i formatted it. and it worked perfectly, giving me the dos prompt and everything seemed fine. i installed linux... i never intentionally made a linux startup disk - if it had asked me, i would have used a different disk... i'm going to ask a friend who helped install it to make sure... |
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That's probably your best bet, because if you can't get the floppy to boot there isn't much anyone here can do for you :) |
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oh fuck, you're right. my friend wrote over my startup disk without asking me. do you know a site where i can download one? |
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I don't sorry :( |
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well, i really appreciate your help thus far. seriously, thank you very much for taking the time and all. |
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it's good that i know what the problem is, but i can't believe he did that. i'm so mad now... |
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getting a wireless networking card working on linux has been the bane of my existance for way too fucking long. i'm close to throwing in the towel. i feel your pain, arr fourty eff. |
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linux may very well be awesome, but it's got one hell of a barrier to entry. frequently having no option but the command line means that you've got to know syntax, and often there are a thousand different ways to accomplish what your trying to do, not all of which will work on your particular flavor. you basically have to know the inner workings of linux like the back of your hand before you can pull off what should be a rather simple task. |
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Basically if your hardware isn't supported you're fucked. If I weren't so in love with Reaktor I'd be running Ubuntu right now. It's really the only thing that keeps me tied to winders. |
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I've been using different flavours of Linux for years now, and Unix before that, I think it is excellent providing you don't want to get fancy new equipment working on it straight away :) I hate computers though, that's why I'm not on a tech forum instead of here :( |
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my [current] problem is that i can't seem to find a wireless network card that is supported. i've tried two seperate cards, and two seperate sets of 3rd party drivers, to no avail. but, the error messages, when i'm able to dig them up, mean next to nothing to me, and any commands that might remedy the problem are completely unknown to me. it's really been quite disheartening. |
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See you are missing the point...what you are describing is considered to be the fun of Linux (honestly!) |
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yeah, i've tried several flavors of linux, and even freeBSD once. i figured i'd be able to trudge through it, but it has bested me consistently. |
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I was about to install Linux then it gave a load of shit about moving partitions and deleting shit and it'd got my partitions the wrong way round so I wasn't 100% sure what it was actually trying to delete. I didn't install it then. I like the Live CDs though. Great for getting on to a system. What's the name of the one that works on a Multisession CD so you can save your settings on it and also any files you create? |
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agreed. that's basically why i've been playing around with it for so long... but, it's really fucking frustrating when you tinker (notice the date of that original post), and make no progress whatsoever.. |
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yeah, you guys are correct, i'm sure. i certainly don't understand most of linux... it just seems to me that when you click a button, it should launch the application instead of doing nothing half the time. i don't know the techniques - it just seems like it isn't working. and it randomly resets settings and crashes for no reason... the cdrom is a fucking struggle - much worse than the old macs i had to deal with. it just locks up and won't eject cd's and i can't figure out how to get the thing out. installing things is ridiculous and i don't know why there are errors in installing programs that came bundled with it. i could go on and on about the problems i've been having... |
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Try googling the exact error messages in quotes. That usually works for me. You're probably having to mess with modules.conf or whatever it's called - fun fun fun! Sometimes you can't use binary modules because they weren't compiled with your exact kernel. Time for a kernel recompile and more fun! |
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Awww sugar, you ought to feel good - you just ain't geek enough. Being geeky enough to work Linux gives you a 65% chance of dying a virgin. |
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Yes I was lucky enough to loose my virginity (13) before I found out why the | symbol was useful for in command line operations. |
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yep. i've been suspecting for quite some time that this is a problem with my kernel, but i have no way of knowing that. i'll probably end up rebuilding the entire system from scratch again soon, when i get frustrated enough.. for like the 40th time. |
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yes, luckilly i lost my v card before i became interested in linux. but you are quite right in that my endeavors into *nux seem to've ensured my abstinence. |
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.. if you're into that kind of thing. to people like me it's just overcomplicated bollocks. |
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Yes if you aren't into that sort of thing then you wouldn't be using Linux...simple as. It's really not that complicated though... |
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It's really not that complicated though... D': |
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so you see, the exact same thing that is considered to be the fun of Linux is at the exact same time considered to be the unfun of Linux! |
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If your idea of fun is writing a Python script that retrieves a status page and emails it to root@localhost, you just might be a pencilneck. |
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