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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-22 10:52 [#00710124]
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looking at your avatar makes me feel full
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-22 10:55 [#00710128]
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of course white people HAVE helped thru guilt-motivation - some have even admitted it, lee.
Much racism was brought about by EDUCATING people to be racist (even if it wasn't so ugly or evident as in the south), to just think they were superior withouth even noticing - so they might think of themselves as non-racist, but actually be acting or thinking in a superior manner. That's been documented many times.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-22 10:55 [#00710129]
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Yes, the Brazilian street children say the same thing :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-22 10:59 [#00710133]
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I agree with you, but not every white person who has gone against injustice has done so out of guilt, and I agree with the fact the people are still being 'educated' to beleive they are superior, but I cannot and will not accept that white people, as a race, have anything to be accountable for.
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mimi
on 2003-05-22 12:44 [#00710254]
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evolume i hear ya. i avoid arabs like the plague because of that sort of thing.
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Clic
on 2003-05-22 13:59 [#00710384]
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Absolutely not.
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methegenie
on 2003-05-22 15:04 [#00710480]
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likewise,i'll never be ashamed of being white.all cultures and races have fucked over all other cultures and races throughout history.its easy to just think of western imperialism and think 'oh,werent we awful,i must spank myself for the rest of my life'.the English and Americans for example are always seen as the creators of slavery,but the Egyptians and god knows who else were doing it years before us.it doesnt make it right,but you have to look at the whole picture and not just pick at the bits of history that suit you.and also remember that while certain white people English people in power were srewing other lands for profit,they were also screwing white people in their own country.poverty and misery during the British empire happened as much here as it did in many countries we colonised.
basically,give any individuals power,wether they be white,black or green,and they will screw whoever they can.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-22 15:23 [#00710515]
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a voice of sanity! well said
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more10
from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-05-22 15:48 [#00710549]
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I watch alotta F1 races but I wouldnt call myslef a racist...
*hides*
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-23 09:32 [#00711341]
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Paul just admit it you have the views of a nigger-loving liberal :D
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Archrival
on 2003-05-23 09:54 [#00711373]
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Marlowes question: Are you racist
Archrivals answer: No, im definitly not a racist and all u fucks who are can suck on my teethbrush.
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Archrival
on 2003-05-23 09:59 [#00711390]
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*Archrival singing* "white boy, white boy be home for sunday dinner"
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Archrival
on 2003-05-23 10:00 [#00711392]
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why do alwayt threads bout racism get like many posts????
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-23 10:03 [#00711394]
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because the nigger-loving liberals get going :P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-23 10:12 [#00711409]
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I think it's because it's something a lot of people feel uncomfortable discussing in real life... the relative anonymity of the net lets people discuss it in an open and frank way without really caring if someone calls them rascist or a "nigger-loving liberal".
It's worth noting that it's only since the internet became popular that white people started to hear the expression, "smelling like a wet dog when it rains" :)
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-23 10:14 [#00711412]
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it's interesting how a lot of people who responded to this thread stated something along the lines of 'no i'm not racist, but i do have a beef against different cultural aspects', ie. subculture - such as preppy, hip hopper, nerd, goth, etc. the list goes on and on.
but that in itself is still discrimination, and wouldn't you agree that it is just as 'bad' as racism?
unless you don't care about the fact that you discriminate on things that people can choose 'after the fact' (ie. that they were born a certain skin colour).
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-23 10:16 [#00711415]
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Nah, I reckon it's worse to discriminate against something people can't change...
Besides, goths deserve all they get. Attention seeking cream faced loons. j/k
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-23 10:21 [#00711420]
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haha, well i've been there too. i've tried to justify that kind of 'a posteriori' discrimination on other people, but then whenever i let my guard down, so to speak, i've ended up meeting some really interesting people who just want to dress differently than i, or believe a different religion than i (although i'm not a believer of any religion). some may be assholes, but some may be very fascinating individuals - the same goes for the people on this board i'm sure :)
i think it's highly dependent on the individual, not dependent on what they are, or what they wear, or what they believe in, etc.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-23 10:28 [#00711430]
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I don't write off any group, I might disagree with them, make jokes at their expense etc. but there are invariably individuals from any group I get on with.
I think communism is an ideology is childish, flawed and impractical. However, doesn't mean I won't be mates with someone because they're a bit red ;)
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diablo
on 2003-05-23 10:33 [#00711436]
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I'm sorry For something I didn't do Lynched somebody But I don't know who You blame me for slavery A hundred years before I was born
Guilty of being white (minor threat)
but hey, I prefer to think we're all just people. We're all different. We're all the same. May sound a bit idealistic, but you've got to start somewhere.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-23 10:36 [#00711439]
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are you racist?
probably.
hard not to be, with all the propaganda boucing round us.
however, I try to keep sharp to when my thinking is prejudiced.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-24 07:31 [#00712691]
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YEEEEEHAAAAW!!!!
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-05-24 07:31 [#00712693]
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LATATATATATATA!!!!!
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dogboy
from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-24 10:00 [#00712884]
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my girlfriend is indian, and my best freind is a rasta......i guess that makes me pretty racist huh?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-24 10:07 [#00712890]
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attention seeking cream faced loons
that is piss funny :D
ive got to remember that for when i go out tonight
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:48 [#00712931]
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to answer this question:
no.
i'm caucasian, and i've befriended many people of different ethnicities. i judge people only by how they treat others and theirselves.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-24 12:04 [#00713035]
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don't forget, you can be racist and have friends of different ethnicities - not all racsts are aware of their racism.
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