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*to be I keep missing out words! |
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how can you be ashamed of your race? you can't judge people by race, it's a factor such as being born male/female. forget about races. |
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It's hard to when they've been responsible for SO much damage in the world. And shit, I'M MALE too, even worse! White Males have gone thru modern history destroying things |
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yeah... I guess I understand what you mean, eventhough making groups of people for factors they cannot decide themselves (things like that you are born, and what you are born to) is just plain wrong. It has to be realized. I wish more people would share my perspective on things... |
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I am not racist per definition. I have no problems whatsoever with other races and nationalities. What does piss me off sometimes is when I see foreigners in our country who just don't adapt. They don't speak our language (don't even put effort in learning it). They live on our social security system and don't find a job. That does NOT make me hate all foreigners and other races though. |
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Blah blah blah |
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I refuse to feel guilty for something I cannot help being born as. |
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i totally concur with you on those points. and no i aint racist my boss is a black guy and by and large . but we are heading for racial disharmony if the asylum issue isnt addressed |
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i meant to say by and large we can all get along - doh |
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Ceri, Absolutely totally agree. I've got nothing to feel guilty about. What a load of leftie bull from Marlowe, honestly. |
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Foreigners who come into our country and basically just work and rail against it, they should go. And I think we know who we're talking about. |
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no i'm not, but i would find it odd to be in a rroom full of black people orr a school full of black people but simply because wherre i live white people out numberr black people grreatly and it would be a strrange situation, but thats totally norrmal, but i know and am frriends with people frrom otherr culturres, i'm not rrasist. |
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I'm not racist, but I guess I DO have some latent ''wrong ideas'' about other races, you get exposed to them in our society and you never really outgrow them. But I have no problem with any of them, no way am I racist. I'm half Jamaican myself, I think. 99.99999% of the people where I live are white, though. |
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There's a lot of different races here... A lot of yummy off-whyte boys.. yeahh |
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Cheese |
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i`m not for sure. |
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If you are talking about racism as the mistreatment of others based on race then I would like to think I'm not, but I can't really be the judge of that. If you are talking about racism as the general holding of pre-conceived ideas based on a persons ethnicity then I think everyone is guilty to some extent, purely down to the fact that humans are very judemental creatures. I totally disagree with your shame you feel about being white...there may have been a lot of nasty shit done by white people but equally there has been that in almost every culture worldwide, but I don't see why I should feel shamed for the actions of others. You view, although on a larger scale, is nothing more than all Black people are muggers because you know someone who was mugged by a Black person. It is a rediculous view. I actually went so far as attending a protest at the apology made by Liverpool city council on behalf of the city for the role it played in the slave trade. I am an individual not an entire race. |
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You know what I dislike almost more then rascism? People being pround of their race. Like when people are proud to be black, or latino, or white.. or whatever.. I think that's insane! |
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shit, no despite how i might have been influenced i ask what is the point? |
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I agree. It's about the cultures, not about the race |
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i don't underrstand the double standarrds when it comes to rrace. like an all blacks club when white people arre not welcome, therre is no sign, its just so. i mean if i set up a whites only club i would be bombed. saying that therre is the old arrgument that white people have had places like that forr yearrs and yearrs in the past. but hey, i'm not parrt of that erra, i have neverr excluded someone forr theirr rrace orr any otherr reason forr that matterr. so i feel a bit offended. |
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ok im a bit late in the converstion but i got an image from your 2nd sentence there are places.. that anyone instinctively doesnt belong to or relate to so my point here is, there are things you can and cant touch situationally.. but there is a lot we can reach. that was directed at ALL of you :) |
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i'm not racist, i just hate blacks. |
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i'm not racist, i just hate blacks. |
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noice |
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I am half japanese but i guess i associate myself more with my white half than my asian half. i have friends of many races. i try not to be racist but i do catch myself having stereotypical reactions to people. for example, when i talk to a black person, i very conciously try to avoid topics that might implicate me as racist. i do not do this with white people. also, around asian people, i often feel that i must assert my asian heritage to them to be accepted by them. this is a catch-22 however, because i have been looked down upon by some asians for not being pure asian and not speaking japanese. at least i am concious of my attitudes towards other races and i am striving toward pure objectivity. |
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yes right there you feel a problem in your guts, a criteria happens to all of us you know what though. well i dont know if im mad or something but as soon as i assert eye contact with a person, i know i have an understanding.. its strange how easy it is to forget how to deal wih people in general.. but its just as easy to instincitvely know :) |
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in a way, it makes evolutionary sense for a species to generalize based on a physical trait such as race. for example, many people fear bee's. maybe they have been stung or they are allergic to bees or whatever but they fear anything flying around that looks like a bee. Now, there are flies that take advantage of this and have evolved to look like bees. people who are afraid of bees will assume that these flies will also sting even though they won't. by generalizing based on a physical trait, bee fearing people avoid getting stung. i think we are hard-wired to generalize in this manner (even if my bee analogy is not a great example) but as logically thinking creatures with the capacity for abstract thought, we have to strive to evolve beyond these kinds of generalizations. |
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true true. |
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Fuck rasism. I have no problem with cheering sweden with fugitives from other contries. Bring em here , theres plenty of room for eveyone =) |
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you think im right? as for physical traits, its certainly a prevalent factor but its equally arguable that that sort of thing doesnt matter so.. who can tell. evolutionary models point toward us all 'looking' the same, which imlplies convergence.. and That much is almost science fiction :) |
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evolutionary models point toward us all 'looking' the same, which imlplies convergence.. i wouldn't go as far as to say that. a key componant of evolution is genetic diversity. but deffinately at some point, there will be virtually no such thing as a racially pure bloodline. especially since all races of humans evolved from the same primate ancestors. but that's a whole different debate yes? |
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oh wait, i see what you are saying. you had 'looking' in quotes. i just misunderstood your use of the word convergence. convergence is when say a mammal (a bat for example) and an insect (dragonfly) both evolve wings for flight. as two independent but convergent phenotypes. |
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yeah as i say im going into science fiction here, aliens etc i wouldnt perceive that happening anytime soon |
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lol ... well "soon" is a relative term... ;) |
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right, i probably used the word wrong, then :) |
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the reason I'm ashamed of being part of the so-called 'white-race' is because of the fact that they've fucked over more or less ALL of the non-white world, and there's been reparation or apology. |
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Why should there be apology? I'd resent my government apologising on behalf of me for things "my race" has done! Nothing to do with me. To associate me with the slave trade etc. because of my race and lineage is very rascist. I wasn't around then, I cna't help my great great great grandfather's actions... |
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Exactly the way I feel... |
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It's not a question of blame, it's a question of a sincere apology for our forefather's actions and our former governments and monarchies raping and pillaging most of the non-white world (and still doing it). It's about time they got at least of symbol of regret and sorrow. But, the west has a reputation of arrogance, and that sort of thing isn't to be expected - 'President' George W Bush couldn't even make an apology to the Canadians when US soldiers killed them. |
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You should know Americans can never apologise- their blame culture dictates that anyone who apologises can be sued :p Again, how can I apologise for what my forefathers did? I can't help what they did... How far back should we go? I demand an apology from the Italians for what the romans did to my ancestors the celts (despite the fact they improved our quality of life, technology etc. another worthy analogy...) |
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Exactly - they left an improvement. Where the Western (mainly 'white') man has trampled has been left death, ignorance, slavery and destruction. |
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Sorry mate but you are talking bollocks...the colour of the skin had fuck all to do with their treatment of others...they just went for the easiest targets. Should all muslim men apologise for the treatment muslim women get under certain regime's? |
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we're taking about systematic destruction of entire races, millions taken into slavery and losing their identity and religion and culture -- whether we like it or not, it was done by white people -- as a group, the white people should be repairing the damage it has done for over 500 years to the rest of the world -- as a group, the white people should apologise abjectly, become humble and concentrate on trying to wrong the heinous rights that they have perpetrated. |
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It was done by groups of people who happened to be white, not by "white people". To me there is a veery clear distinction between the two. Transferring you views of a select group of people onto their entire race is pure and simply racism. :D |
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I can see your distinction, it is true -- but it was groups of people who happened to be white, and who all happened to view non-white people as inferior, and enslave them, kill them, rape their women, steal their minerals and inflict their rule upon them. |
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Yes but they aren't representative of ALL whites are they :) And lets not forget that, as well as there being destructive groups of white people who commit these crimes against people of other races, there are also those white people who stand up and fight against it. Sadly their voices aren't always heard but none the less they have and always will exist...white people where lynched by the klan for supporting the civil rights movement, I think it is an insult to their memory for some overpaid politician to stand up and apologise on their behalf for something they died trying to change just because their skin colour also happens to be white. |
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yes, it's true, in the past 100 years there have been white people apologising for the past and trying to atone for it. |
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You are implying those who fight against injustice towards other races are doing so out of guilt? No offense but you are just typing shit now. :D Most people are good natured, a lot of racism was born out of the fact that the people where too uneducated themselves to realise they were being lied to about how "savage" the new arrivals from Africa where. Lets face it the physical condition the poor slaves were in when they arrived, coupled with the fact they couldnot speak the lingo could have led people to that conclusion. When it started to become apparent that far from being savages they where actually equals people began to fear and that has sadly continued down the generations...Racism is all based on ignorance, and the only way to eradicate ignorance is education and exposure...but this will never happen. |
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The same can be said for the West Indian and Indian immigrants in Britain...invited to come over and work menial jobs white people thought where beneath them...it is ignorance to think they were intellectually inferior, but fear is the end result. Racism is ignorance and fear. Wanna buy a monkey? |
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