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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-20 01:53 [#00706319]
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LOL
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-20 13:36 [#00706921]
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it's one thing to knowingly and purposefully inhale a proven carcinogen into your own body. thats your decision. but to get mad if your co-workers don't want to be subject to that same carcinogen is just rediculous.
If you want to shorten up your own life span, wrinkle up your own skin, and pack your own lungs full of tar go right ahead. just don't ask me to participate. especially at work, a place where i must go every day to earn a living.
i too am suspicious of the stats presented on the number of deaths related to second hand smoke each year and i don't doubt that the number is inflated. But there is no question that cigarette smoke is a carcinogen and it's easy enough to allow smokers to smoke where i don't have to breath it. just bring a friggin warmer jacket and an umbrella or fucking quit smoking. easy as that.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-20 13:48 [#00706930]
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Who's done more research than the good people at the American Tobacco Industry? They say its harmless. Why would they lie? If you're dead, you can't smoke.
Roy Munson Kingpin
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-20 13:49 [#00706934]
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my workplace was declared non smoking yesterday. caused an uproar, but fuck it, i'm happy.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-21 07:33 [#00708042]
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You would say that. You're an american. All americans think that they have a god given right to live forever.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-21 12:45 [#00708701]
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if someone at work farted everywhere and stank of shit the whole time it would not be tolerated.
smoking stinks and i don't see why it should be inflicted on non-smokers.
it's kind of a coincidence that the smokers i know are inconciderate in practically all aspects of theirs lives.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-21 13:39 [#00708797]
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if you think smokers should be allowed to poison my air at work, then i should be allowed to poison their food. sounds fair to me.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-03 04:13 [#00725035]
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LOL, sounds fair to me too!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-03 04:28 [#00725050]
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Nonsense of course. If there was no effect in second hand smoke, why would the pot smoking technique known as "blowback" work? Do you think because one person has breathed it, it filters out all the harmful chemicals and the smoke they blow out is completely pure?
Even if it's harmless, it smells unpleasent and makes your eyes sting.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-03 04:31 [#00725056]
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The analogy I always use is that not everyone likes vodka. I
love it. If smokers can get away with blowing smoke in my face, I should be able to spit vodka in their mouths... it's
second hand alcohol darling, don't you know it can't have any harmful effects now?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-03 04:33 [#00725060]
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That's also a good 'un... :-)
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-06-03 04:41 [#00725077]
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It's a great analogy. I prefer this one. I'm cutting a carrot. You say you don't like smoking but like carrots. I shit in your shoes and shove the carrot up your arse. Simple as that.
There is a major difference in the toxicity of second hand smoke to the toxicity of first hand smoke. Unless you were enclosed in a box no bigger than yourself and the EVIL smoker, passive smoking is as dangerous as breathing in the every day air outside. The atmosphere is polluted with carcinogens due to the fact that we are an industrial nation. A cigarette makes FUCK ALL difference. Fuck Roy Castle and fuck this fucking fascist state that we're living in and all the fucking twats who help perpetuate it.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-03 04:47 [#00725081]
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you sound like you need a cigarette
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-03 04:50 [#00725086]
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Such bollocks...
And shame on you for slandering the dead...the GREAT Roy Castle lives on in the U-Ziq track named after him...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-03 06:20 [#00725225]
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Smokers have an oral fixation i.e they haven't moved beyond the oral stage of development (age 0 - 1.5).
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