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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 08:49 [#02036749]
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I used to support Wimbledon F.C. before they died and were shuffled off to Milton Keynes. Now I support AFC Wimbledon, who hold the record for most consecutive unbeaten league games at senior level in the UK -- 78
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-23 08:54 [#02036751]
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real madrid and inter milan. but im no hardcore supporter. i hardly saw any matches in the past year..
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-23 08:56 [#02036752]
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Do you hate the Norwegian investors of WFC and Egil "Drillo" Olsen?
I supported Spurs and Milan from when I was a kid, and when Gazza, Lineker, Thorstvedt and van Basten, Rijkard and Gullit were playing. If I can catch a match at the TV, I do, but nothing more.
The only team I really care for is Bodø/Glimt, but after the relegation 1,5 years ago, I'm more and more "yeah, whatever".
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-01-23 08:58 [#02036753]
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I must say that I have growing feelings for Barcelona too. Their style, stars and the fact that a Norwegian channel are showing matches for Primiera Division.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 09:00 [#02036755]
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My mum and brother are big Spurs fans - they have the strips, for my mum's 50th birthday she got a tour of the stadium, and has a framed picture of it somewhere in her house. Bless her misguided affections.
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nacmat
on 2007-01-23 09:03 [#02036756]
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FCB
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 09:06 [#02036757]
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I hate football, and I'd rather see television stations and newspapers using the space that usually goes to sports for something that's actually useful like maybe educating people a bit.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-23 09:09 [#02036759]
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surely you like to watch young men in shorts running around like crazy?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 09:11 [#02036761]
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none
and i agree with drunken mastah
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 09:12 [#02036762]
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they don't show little league on tv, so I just go to the closest childrens school with my video camera for schoolboys.
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Cnut
from the future on 2007-01-23 09:29 [#02036769]
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FC Bochum
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 09:32 [#02036770]
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Are you some kind of austere motherfucker? Granted, there's too much attention focused on the cult of celebrity but hell, we are allowed some pleasure time-off for good behaviour, and sport is a primal interest of humans.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-23 09:34 [#02036772]
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football sucks.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-23 09:34 [#02036773]
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Like I don't follow Engineering or the global stats of Firefighting crews across the world, I don't really have time either to keep updated with football, or any sport. I'm far too busy thinking about me.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-23 09:41 [#02036774]
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I like the Colts, and I think they'll win the super bowl!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 09:44 [#02036775]
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I said Football, not American Football.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 09:44 [#02036776]
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yeah, but if you want to watch sports you could buy some separate magazine/channel so that I won't have to bother with flipping past the sports pages if I want a normal newspaper with actually interesting articles; I want more in-depth "news" than what most newspapers these days produce, and I know they're giving up space to be able to have some sports there so that more people will buy the paper.
Now, this says something about people; they want sports, they enjoy sports. I don't say there's anything wrong with that, but if you're sacrificing information and education because sports has higher ratings so that companies pay you more money to have advertisements between the sports shows, the common practice for a tv-station/newspaper would be to have more sports so that they could make more money, both on more people buying the newspaper and on more people wanting to place ads with you.
People who absolutely have to spend their free time watching sports could have special channels or special interest magazines or something that they could pay to get. Now, instead, we have to pay for a special news channel if we want it; would you want free education/information/news or free manufactured passive entertainment?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-23 09:49 [#02036778]
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we don't refer to it as American football over here...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 09:49 [#02036779]
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also, do you remember how much more fun it is to go out and play football with your friends than it is watching it at home? That's the only football I somewhat enjoy, but I still prefer other sports.. mostly ones where I'm allowed to knock people over.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 09:49 [#02036780]
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Newspapers aren't designed solely to appease Drunken Mastah; people can get their information from multiple sources: for your argument to work
a) Newspapers would dictate how their readers received all of their information
b) Newspapers would be unable to be slightly thicker, otherwise they would just add more pages in the front and middle of their editions to cover more topics.
You also get special interest political, nature, history, and puzzle magazines - are you suggesting these also should not be covered by general interest publications such as newspapers?
People who want shit read shit newspapers, people who want more in-depth coverage buy more in-depth newspapers and watch BBC News 24; you can't force the hoi-polloi to be interested in the things which you deem Important.
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Akira
from out of space on 2007-01-23 09:50 [#02036781]
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oh! how clever...
99% of questions is money anyway. I think its best to stop analyzing everything, and start enjoying yourself.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 09:50 [#02036782]
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I'm aware of the North American hijacking of the term.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-23 09:51 [#02036784]
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football is called soccer... it was Europe who hijacked the term! ;)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 09:54 [#02036786]
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still agreeing with drunken mastah, although i have more of a problem with sport being reported part of the news on the radio, since you can't just "flick past" it.
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Akira
from out of space on 2007-01-23 09:56 [#02036789]
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In most countries in which English is an official language, the word "football" usually refers to Association football, also known as soccer. Of the 45 national FIFA affiliates in which English is an official or primary language, only three — Canada, Samoa and the United States — have "soccer" in the name of their governing body.
i support manchester united. :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 09:59 [#02036790]
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No, they aren't designed for me particularly, but take the situation here in norway: we have a few "commonly available channels," channels you get "for free" (you pay a license). These are the channels most people have, and are thus also a source of information for many people.
Now, take a normal news broadcast. It lasts on average 15 minutes. In this space of time, you can get out the information that something has happened. This is all well and good, but too few people seem to be willing to actually go and search out the information required for this something that has happened to make sense to them outside of in a very superficial way: "the government decided to spend more money on building roads." How do you interpret this if you don't have some sort of special knowledge about or insight into political and economical matters? Most people don't have this knowledge, and they get the impression there isn't more to it than this; more roads will be built, but there are many other questions if you think about it a bit: where do these money come from? will spending these money have some sort of effect on economy? etc etc. Why are these questions left unanswered? I don't know, we have to cut to sports.
The publicly available media should concentrate more on educating (used in the sense of filling in information, adding debate and in-depth information) and less on sports.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-23 10:00 [#02036791]
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I know, I was only kidding...
as far as the football you are talking about, I like watching Barcelona. We don't get much soccer over here, so I mostly just get to see the Champions League, and some English Premiership, but I like Barcelona whenever they're on, and Man United or Chelsea from the Eng Premiership.
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trentee
from Berlin (Germany) on 2007-01-23 10:00 [#02036792]
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Widzew Lodz.
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:D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 10:01 [#02036794]
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oh, yeah, that too
within the "normal" news, they always also report some sort of sports news ("norways football team won against jamaica") and then they do a story on it even though, ten seconds later, sports takes over and do the same story, but more in-depth! The sports get in-depth coverage, why doesn't news?!
I could probably find out more about our national football teams strategy than I could about our military actions abroad during a day of watching the news.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 10:01 [#02036796]
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Football was invented by the Chinese, who used the term Fu Bao, meaning Tiger entwines Pufferfish. The game was discovered by Marco Polo on his adventures around the globe. He brought the game back to Europe, and introduced it to (what is now modern) Italy, where it was called Baous Fuballus. It spread West, become known as Football in the British Isles, where the game had to be vastly rewritten to fit the name, as before it entailed shooting arrows at speeding rodents which were blasted from cannons and, using a sophisticated series of angled wooden planks, were sent careening around the outside of a circular arena.
Fact.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 10:02 [#02036797]
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oh yeah, when things are going to shit they're going to shit so I shouldn't care?
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Akira
from out of space on 2007-01-23 10:07 [#02036798]
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no, of course you should man!
but its a total apocalypse in terms of things going to shit, and there's pretty much nothing us grain of sands can do.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 10:09 [#02036801]
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how do you suppose this shit is happening then? all on its own?
doing nothing is, in this context, somewhat synonymous with letting things happen.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-23 10:13 [#02036803]
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I like the enthusiasm of soccer fans. I just don't know what they're enthused about... I don't get soccer at all. ;_;
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Akira
from out of space on 2007-01-23 10:13 [#02036804]
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i do what an ant in a sack can do. im sure you got my point anyway.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 10:13 [#02036805]
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During the world cup, it dominated. When Wayne Rooney broke his cock, i remember watching the news - on a 24 hour news channel - there was 25 minutes devoted to wayne rooney (not the world cup, wayne rooney and his broken cock) and then a 10 minute "round-up", before further speculation on the world cup (regarding other countries and other players' cocks) and then a 5 minute weather forecast at the end of the hour.
repeat.
what the fuck like?
that's not fucking on.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 10:14 [#02036806]
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and those figures are entirely accurate, i sat and watched the full fucking hour with my dinner, disgusted, and timed the news section.
10 minutes out of a fucking hour.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 10:15 [#02036807]
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And sport is to blame.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 10:16 [#02036808]
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 10:16 [#02036809]
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While you were selfishly eating your dinner and noting how often news reports about Wayne Rooney were on, you could have been shooting dozens of people who didn't share your WorldView!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 10:17 [#02036810]
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i prefer to target those whose critical faculties are failing them
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2007-01-23 10:18 [#02036811]
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Derby County. Home AND away season ticket holder.
We've just gone top of the Championship.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2007-01-23 10:21 [#02036812]
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Not directed at Mastah
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 10:21 [#02036813]
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more you and everyone who contributes to sports programs getting high ratings so that the media can justify sending it, reinforcing your "addiction" (sorry, couldn't think of a better word and it is indeed a poor one, but I got to cut to sports.. or rather debate. Will return like the empire later).
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-23 10:24 [#02036814]
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i already got into this (although slightly dissimilar) argument here
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 10:25 [#02036816]
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I don't watch many sports programmes, thank-you, or read any sports sections in newspapers.
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Akira
from out of space on 2007-01-23 10:28 [#02036818]
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haha. im guessing your career invloves a scientific domain of some sort
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 11:39 [#02036847]
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good! then not you but a lot of other people.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-23 11:40 [#02036848]
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indeed it does. I'm doing philosophy.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-23 11:51 [#02036854]
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What a waste of time!
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