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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-24 08:42 [#02021051]
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some scary stuff
Degraded sound and video? Extra processing overhead for encryption and device polling? The ability to REVOKE hardware drivers?!
...the fuck...?!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-12-24 09:00 [#02021052]
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content protection? fuck that. someone will crack it. hopefully
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-24 09:43 [#02021056]
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An interesting read. I can see a lot of people moving over to linux or buying hardware hacks or software hacks.
It seems M$ are trying to gain a mega monopoly over content and "do an iTunes", but it won't work. There are enough clever people out there to be able to hack it.
These hacks will be popular with people since it gives them MORE functionality, so any AV company that blocks it will be on a suicide trip too.
simple solution: don't buy vista, don't buy protected content. Hit them where it hurts.
I would suggest just getting something like ubuntu now, it's easy enough for most computer users to get a good grip on in less than a day and you're not too embedded with M$ and all their crap.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-24 11:06 [#02021074]
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That's why I can't be arsed to upgrade my laptop.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-12-24 13:32 [#02021098]
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shut up, mister. it might be our only goddamn chance to break the Breakcore Monopoly..
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2006-12-24 13:46 [#02021099]
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have you any idea if the guy isn't making things up? thats a damn interesting collection of letters right there if its true.
i'll go buy 'linux for dummies', i guess.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2006-12-24 13:47 [#02021100]
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i mean it sounds all so unlikely, and stuff.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-24 13:48 [#02021101]
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odd
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-24 14:43 [#02021108]
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Peter Gutmann is big potatoes in computer science, BIG, so big he's almost turnips.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-12-24 14:47 [#02021110]
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buy macs
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-24 15:24 [#02021113]
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Oh come on, if this were true the only people it would affect are the people that I would kick up the arse too, seasoned haxX03 pirates that use their PC as their woebegotten Enterntainment Pod. Oh no, my ripped off torrents don't work, suddenly all the albums I stole don't sound so sexy. Fuck them. Play a CD on your stereo, play a DVD on a DVD player. Wait until the future provides a viable system that integrates all media and not these fucking half measures presented today. And shut up, a couple of years ago you had to wait until the TV companies got round to showing a film, now everything's at your fingertips it's "Ooooh, the flac quality on this cassette bootleg isn't high fidelity",.. fucking people, apparently so clever. You're areseholes. Yes I've been drinking.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-12-24 15:24 [#02021114]
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LOL
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-24 15:30 [#02021117]
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At least oscillik won't be affected. Did you know he only uses hardware and an Atari ST? He likes to keep this fact quiet.
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OK
on 2006-12-25 14:09 [#02021310]
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well i guess the point is that they would (deliberately) be limiting the functions that a computer is capable of. that's fucked up.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-25 14:52 [#02021316]
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Well as a high profile company with a lot at stake I guess they have to be seen to take certain measures and, well, you don't have to buy their OS, and well, well, well, well etc.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-25 17:35 [#02021326]
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I really didn't bother reading all of it, but.. wasn't it all about "protected" content like blu-ray or dvds or whatever? So I guess my question is "what would vista do to music makers?"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-25 17:36 [#02021327]
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Or, if you wish, "what will vista do to music makers?" You may choose your own adventure.
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staz
on 2006-12-25 19:02 [#02021347]
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i choose a blowjob
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-26 08:44 [#02021413]
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*can't talk with your dick in my mouth*
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-12-27 01:41 [#02021557]
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You know, I don't think it will do much to musicmakers. Well, at least ones that use hardware that is up to date. The bit about the aged drivers/unsigned drivers is troubling though. Pretty much, that renders half of all music hardware useless when it interfaces with your computer.
Doesn't affect me much. Any thing I have tried to connect to my computer recently hasn't worked properly, because any piece of equipment that is made for the sub$1000 area seems poorly set up for what its supposed to do. Now that I am used to everything working well as soon as the midi cables are connected, spending as much as a half hour dicking around with crappy drivers feels like a lot of time waisted.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-27 04:11 [#02021583]
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Just do the world a favor and stick with XP. Just forget about Vista. If you want a slick looking and virus-free OS, buy a Mac.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-12-27 08:14 [#02021634]
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fuck man, you fucking said it now
now everyone knows i'm not down with the software scene
actually it's not an ST :-p
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-27 08:37 [#02021644]
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It's not just MAKING music. It's distributing it that could be a problem. What about uploading you own music to the net? What if Microsoft decides you can only record low bitrate analog in and encode directly to 64k WMA, because you just might be pirating something? And on top of that what if it pulls a Zune and only lets people listen to your track for 3 plays or 3 days before disabling it? All of this can be added in an automatic update patch if it isn't there already.
I mean, Justin Timberlake has to be protected from piracy! If that prevents people from publishing their own music, well, too bad. It probably wouldn't have been good anyhow. The only way you know music is good is if an RIAA member label wants to sell it to you. They're providing a valuable tastemaking service for a modest fee.
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OK
on 2006-12-28 09:33 [#02022015]
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dog_belch has a point. you are free to not get vista.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 10:30 [#02022023]
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Great, so I'll be the guy whose next computer doesn't work because the closed source DRM compatible drivers signed by Microsoft only work in Vista. Oh well, why did I want a computer anyways. I can play Drunken Heiress© with Paris Hilton™ on my Wii.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 10:31 [#02022024]
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*ahem*
Wii™©
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OK
on 2006-12-28 11:15 [#02022047]
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I don't think that'll happen.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-12-28 11:20 [#02022052]
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you know what? let's let the music die. just let it go. there's more than enough of it already, let's just forget about "new".
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-28 13:55 [#02022182]
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fuck... time to buy the Apple Mac... Trouble is...well, I guess there is no trouble, really, except I need to fork out £££ just for a new MS Office suite.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 14:03 [#02022201]
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Tech Diff.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-12-28 14:17 [#02022222]
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EVERYTHING MUST GO
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-12-28 14:17 [#02022226]
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yes, even Funkstorung.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 14:50 [#02022274]
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You are a beast, qrter. I hope Microsoft gives you a mandatory Fergie desktop theme.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 14:53 [#02022277]
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try Ubuntu Linux - it's what I'm running nowadays..... on both servers and desktops...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 15:04 [#02022293]
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Yeah, Ubuntu is terrific. I like it a lot. I'm hoping more commercial music software will get ported to Linux, following the example of Energy XT.
My only real worry is that eventually, maybe sooner rather than later, pretty much all computer audio / video hardware will have encryption keys that need to shake hands with a trusted platform like Windows or Mac in order to work in high quality mode. That will pose huge problems for open source operating systems.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 15:15 [#02022310]
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ubuntu + beryl = awesome (video proof)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-28 16:43 [#02022495]
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Holy Squidminks. How fast a rig do you have to have to make that work?
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-12-28 16:47 [#02022499]
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it will probably make the internet music world collapse, but probably not, since most internet musicians won't be stupid enough to upgrade to Vista.
I'll keep my old Windows and Firefox, thank you.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 16:49 [#02022501]
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you don't need a super-duper computer to perform all this.... Microsoft has fooled you to believe that. :)
a Pentium 2 should be enough..... try it!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 16:51 [#02022503]
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LAZY_DESKTOP_SNOW
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 16:52 [#02022505]
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btw, here is beryl + energy xt
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-12-28 16:53 [#02022506]
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well put. :)
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-12-28 17:07 [#02022524]
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the day that FL studio works on linux is the day I change. to bad that won't happen because I to am sick of windows.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 17:13 [#02022529]
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you can easily run both windows + linux on the same machine. you will a simple boot menu when u start your computer. it's easier to install linux than windows these days..... :)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-28 17:15 [#02022532]
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what i'm actually saying is: don't be afraid of trying Ubuntu... give it a chance.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 10:11 [#02023231]
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I don't understand what this beryl stuff is...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 11:02 [#02023292]
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It makes your computer be jello.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-29 11:05 [#02023294]
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http://www.beryl-project.org/
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-29 11:05 [#02023295]
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It's just a funky graphical interface for Linux.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 11:25 [#02023307]
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Oh, so this is something you run instead of KDE or Gnome, not on top of them or in addition to them?
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