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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-29 11:31 [#02023314]
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Q: What will Vista do to music makers?
A: Piss them off for approximately 3 days, before a hacker circumnavigates it and even otherwise legitimate users decide to switch to the hacked version because it is superior/less of a ball-ache to use.
As with any intrusive/noticeable copy protection (remember dongles, anyone?) it just inconveniences legitimate users and rewards those who use a cracked one.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-12-29 11:59 [#02023322]
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i feel WARNED
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 14:54 [#02023447]
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oh, so it's all the movement stuff?
can it do something useful?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-29 14:56 [#02023448]
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what does user interfaces usually do?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 14:58 [#02023449]
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I bet you can make it wiggle every five minutes with a command in crontab.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 14:58 [#02023450]
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let users interface?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:00 [#02023451]
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that wiggling is probably very useful if you're a screenwriter from the 70s trying to write the new stephen king movie
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:07 [#02023455]
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vista seems to have some of the same useless features
"oh look, my window is transparent so I can see what's behind it!"
as long as it looks good, who cares about functionality, eh?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 15:11 [#02023463]
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Well to be fair, every time I fiddle with Linux it's more functional than before - hardware support is almost guaranteed nowadays unless you have ultra cheap or exotic peripherals, and just about every application type is available... I'd be on Linux this instant if it weren't for my horrible Reaktor addiction.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:21 [#02023473]
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I'd start using it if it didn't take a phd in computer science to install a program
I once tried installing a video player on my brothers computer.. lala, there's the file, run it, lala.. it did something and then.. then I couldn't find the program anywhere.. I searched for the files, looked at the start-menu-like thing, looked in the documentation for both the linux distro and the program itself, but nothing seemed to tell me where the fuck the program had installed itself...
I just want a desktop with a shortcut to acid (which probably won't work on linux ever), firefox and some other programs I use, and then I want to click them and they'll work. so far windows xp has provided this, plus I can actually find the programs after I've installed them..
Also, that windows crashes all the time and linux doesn't.. well, that's a myth. My windows hasn't crashed more than a few times (and then I was doing stupid things like trying out some "optimiser" that's supposed to make my screencard work better (it's from the people who made the screencard, nvidia)), but every time I've touched a linux computer the shit goes down; for either os it's just a matter of knowing how to use it to keep it from hanging.
however, that article and the "we'll just disable your outputs" stuff has made me think I may have to get some linux knowledge (I don't want to spend any more time teaching myself more computer shit) because I hate it when something does something I didn't tell it to do when I'm working with it.. like automatic spelling correction in word (you know, sometimes you mean to spell a word different from how it's spelled, and if I can't do that, the entire point is lost), which I hate. god damn I hate computers!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-29 15:25 [#02023474]
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like i said.... it's not like that in Ubuntu........ it's all very easy.....
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 15:29 [#02023477]
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Ease of use is a relative thing. Macs are supposed to be so easy to use, but I sat down to help a friend with his dialup connection on Mac OS 9 the other day and was ready to vomit in frustration, because I don't know much about Mac and it felt like there was no [i]there[/i] there, if you know what I mean. No way to pop the hood and check the oil.
Anyhoo last time I tried Ubuntu it was ridiculously easy to select, download and install programs through the package manager, and have them show up in the menus. Miraculous to people who have used Linux back in the dark ages of the mid 90s.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-29 16:10 [#02023499]
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Mac OS 9. Got any idea how old that OS is? That's so last century.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 16:28 [#02023511]
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I will give credit to Apple for making a Unix based system with a command prompt accessible through a terminal emulator. That does come standard now, doesn't it? Or do you have to install extras to get to a command prompt?
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OK
on 2006-12-29 16:40 [#02023515]
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u choose to install it when you install the os
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 19:00 [#02023593]
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What about people who buy a new compy with OSX preinstalled?
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epohs
from )C: on 2006-12-29 19:58 [#02023625]
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osx is a completely different world than os9. much better. and yeah, terminal is in there by default.
vista made me angry cause it didn't play nicely with my samba network. and it was a little asshole with some of my hardware. i'm sure that'll all be worked out in a few months or whatever, but even if everything was working perfectly, the updates that it did have didn't feel exciting. it is more than a new skin for xp for sure, but there's only so much i can get pumped about under-the-hood security enhancements... especially when other oses have had them for a decade. not to completely downplay windows or anything... i still like xp more than ubuntu, but that could be because every single peice of software out there will run on it. XP + SP2 is a pretty solid os with a massive market share advantage and I will probably use it for quite a while.
After all this time I was just expecting more from vista than transparent windows that are neat for 20 or 30 minutes and then just a fuzzy annoyance to be turned off.
My next computer will probably be a small quiet iMac dual booting XP and I'll have an ubuntu file server in the basement to play around with the oss software de jour on and hold my movies and music.
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