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What will Vista do to music makers?
 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-29 11:31 [#02023314]
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Q: What will Vista do to music makers?

A: Piss them off for approximately 3 days, before a hacker
circumnavigates it and even otherwise legitimate users
decide to switch to the hacked version because it is
superior/less of a ball-ache to use.

As with any intrusive/noticeable copy protection (remember
dongles, anyone?) it just inconveniences legitimate users
and rewards those who use a cracked one.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-12-29 11:59 [#02023322]
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i feel WARNED


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 14:54 [#02023447]
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oh, so it's all the movement stuff?

can it do something useful?


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-29 14:56 [#02023448]
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what does user interfaces usually do?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 14:58 [#02023449]
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I bet you can make it wiggle every five minutes with a
command in crontab.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 14:58 [#02023450]
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let users interface?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:00 [#02023451]
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that wiggling is probably very useful if you're a
screenwriter from the 70s trying to write the new stephen
king movie


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:07 [#02023455]
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vista seems to have some of the same useless features

"oh look, my window is transparent so I can see what's
behind it!"

as long as it looks good, who cares about
functionality, eh?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 15:11 [#02023463]
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Well to be fair, every time I fiddle with Linux it's more
functional than before - hardware support is almost
guaranteed nowadays unless you have ultra cheap or exotic
peripherals, and just about every application type is
available... I'd be on Linux this instant if it weren't for
my horrible Reaktor addiction.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-29 15:21 [#02023473]
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I'd start using it if it didn't take a phd in computer
science to install a program

I once tried installing a video player on my brothers
computer.. lala, there's the file, run it, lala.. it did
something and then.. then I couldn't find the program
anywhere.. I searched for the files, looked at the
start-menu-like thing, looked in the documentation for both
the linux distro and the program itself, but nothing seemed
to tell me where the fuck the program had installed
itself...

I just want a desktop with a shortcut to acid (which
probably won't work on linux ever), firefox and some other
programs I use, and then I want to click them and they'll
work. so far windows xp has provided this, plus I can
actually find the programs after I've installed them..

Also, that windows crashes all the time and linux doesn't..
well, that's a myth. My windows hasn't crashed more than a
few times (and then I was doing stupid things like trying
out some "optimiser" that's supposed to make my screencard
work better (it's from the people who made the screencard,
nvidia)), but every time I've touched a linux computer the
shit goes down; for either os it's just a matter of knowing
how to use it to keep it from hanging.

however, that article and the "we'll just disable your
outputs" stuff has made me think I may have to get some
linux knowledge (I don't want to spend any more time
teaching myself more computer shit) because I hate it when
something does something I didn't tell it to do when I'm
working with it.. like automatic spelling correction in word
(you know, sometimes you mean to spell a word
different from how it's spelled, and if I can't do that, the
entire point is lost), which I hate. god damn I hate
computers!


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-29 15:25 [#02023474]
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like i said.... it's not like that in Ubuntu........ it's
all very easy.....


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 15:29 [#02023477]
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Ease of use is a relative thing. Macs are supposed to be so
easy to use, but I sat down to help a friend with his dialup
connection on Mac OS 9 the other day and was ready to vomit
in frustration, because I don't know much about Mac and it
felt like there was no [i]there[/i] there, if you know what
I mean. No way to pop the hood and check the oil.

Anyhoo last time I tried Ubuntu it was ridiculously easy to
select, download and install programs through the package
manager, and have them show up in the menus. Miraculous to
people who have used Linux back in the dark ages of the mid
90s.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-29 16:10 [#02023499]
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Mac OS 9. Got any idea how old that OS is? That's so last
century.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 16:28 [#02023511]
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I will give credit to Apple for making a Unix based system
with a command prompt accessible through a terminal
emulator. That does come standard now, doesn't it? Or do you
have to install extras to get to a command prompt?


 

offline OK on 2006-12-29 16:40 [#02023515]
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u choose to install it when you install the os


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-12-29 19:00 [#02023593]
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What about people who buy a new compy with OSX preinstalled?




 

offline epohs from )C: on 2006-12-29 19:58 [#02023625]
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osx is a completely different world than os9. much better.
and yeah, terminal is in there by default.

vista made me angry cause it didn't play nicely with my
samba network. and it was a little asshole with some of my
hardware. i'm sure that'll all be worked out in a few months
or whatever, but even if everything was working perfectly,
the updates that it did have didn't feel exciting. it is
more than a new skin for xp for sure, but there's only so
much i can get pumped about under-the-hood security
enhancements... especially when other oses have had them for
a decade. not to completely downplay windows or anything...
i still like xp more than ubuntu, but that could be because
every single peice of software out there will run on it. XP
+ SP2 is a pretty solid os with a massive market share
advantage and I will probably use it for quite a while.

After all this time I was just expecting more from vista
than transparent windows that are neat for 20 or 30 minutes
and then just a fuzzy annoyance to be turned off.

My next computer will probably be a small quiet iMac dual
booting XP and I'll have an ubuntu file server in the
basement to play around with the oss software de jour on and
hold my movies and music.


 


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