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offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-28 18:42 [#01908702]
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video (stream) - beware, this is extremely shocking

info (07/08/05)

there's a petition on that page for maximum jale sentence. i
think it's still valid as they haven't been sentenced yet

p.s. probably lots of you know about this already etc.. but
i hadn't seen the video so i assumed that some may have not
seen it either.


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-28 18:54 [#01908704]
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fuck them all. stupid cunts. why is everything so shit?
nothing left is real anymore. it's all synthetic crap,
what's the fucking point? fucking money is our fucking god.
it's horrible, i hate it. people fueled by fear, like
fucking dogs, stupid fucking dogs. who gives a shit about
the mother cunting idiots. fuck them all into the fucking
ground. fucking capitalism, sickens me in every way. it's
pathetic, i conform like the rest, and the majority never
even stop to think about how fucking shit everything is.
nothing will get better. it's all going down the shitter.
fuck religion. fuck it all. fuck the world. fuck the idiots.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-28 19:04 [#01908706]
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well said


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-28 19:17 [#01908709]
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no I mean you're a fucking idiot


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-28 19:19 [#01908710]
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good to hear. thanks


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-28 19:24 [#01908711]
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no problem


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-28 19:26 [#01908712]
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perhaps you'd rather watch this


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-28 19:33 [#01908717]
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I'd rather watch your face fall off.


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-28 19:34 [#01908718]
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just kidding


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-28 19:34 [#01908719]
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i love you


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-28 19:39 [#01908721]
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kiss and make up you two!


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offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-28 20:00 [#01908724]
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Roffle, I have a folder full of ''Homosexual Hockey
Pictures''. It's a pretty gay folder.


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offline zero-cool on 2006-05-29 01:37 [#01908790]
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don't work, something fucked with my players, please help :(


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 02:39 [#01908804]
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that really is sick. bastards.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 03:08 [#01908818]
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is the sun normally considered a good or shit paper? 'cause
that article is awful. And I'm not watching the video and I
won't comment on what sentence they should get, but that
article is just awfully bad for a newspaper.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 03:13 [#01908822]
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the sun is a scum-of-the-earth ultra-conservative
sensationalist tabloid. its not a newspaper


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-29 03:15 [#01908828]
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razorblades right though. this country seems to be going way
way downhill lately. i cant stand the place anymore. i live
in a small market town, its always thought of as an
attractive rural paradise, but there have been times when i
have genuinely feared for my life when walking through town
at night. the whole image of the place is a massive lie. and
its becoming true for the whole country.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 04:35 [#01908893]
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right, that makes sense when I read the article.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2006-05-29 04:39 [#01908896]
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ZOMG liek, ppl r siging da petition for MAX JALE SENTENSE!

whoaahhaoaahh


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-05-29 05:02 [#01908902]
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you reakon it was just completly random?

if anyone comes at me with a knife ill run


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-29 05:08 [#01908906]
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i'm thinking something may have happened earlier on?


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2006-05-29 05:17 [#01908911]
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Justice as vengeance. It's great, isn't it?


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2006-05-29 11:43 [#01909068]
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I'm guessing the guy with the letters on the back of his
sweater was the knife wielder as he's making stabbing
motions at the victim with the white sweater. However, if I
get stabbed that many times wearing a white sweater wouldn't
it have turned red with blood in an instant? Was the vid
real or a dramatized reconstruction of said incident?
Also, do you guys really have these surveillance cameras
that are constantly watched by people who control them by
joysticks? Apparently it's necessary though they're always
gonna be too late to save people with it anyway so it's
always gonna be purely courtroom material. Anyway if it's
real, the knife wielding killer should get the death
penalty, the other two henchmen a long period of jailtime.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 12:41 [#01909099]
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It's not fair for the public and the media to influence a
trial before it's had chance to enter the court of law. I'm
obviously against murder, but just because there is a
petition to give someone maximum jail sentence, doesn't make
it the right thing to do. This case deserves a full,
unbiased court hearing, just like every other case. I refuse
to read this article though if it is by the sun. This
"newspaper" is biased and full of shit.
"WOAH CHECK OUT THE KNOCKERS ON THIS MURDER VICTIM!!!!!!!! (
o Y o )"


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 12:42 [#01909101]
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those were supposed to me tits. Didn't work very well
unfortunately


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-29 12:59 [#01909112]
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your tits? hey little girl, this isn't the kind of thread to
show-off your tits. and come to think of it, it's probably
the wrong board too.

girls nowadays...


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-05-29 13:08 [#01909118]
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I meant BE tits.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-29 13:13 [#01909122]
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yes, and now you're being a smartass too
(_|_)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-29 13:16 [#01909125]
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word


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-05-29 16:39 [#01909270]
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Gee, showing them all high fiving each other before the
murder doesn`t send the wrong message or anything.

"If your kid hangs out with black people, though they seem
charming and happy go lucky, they will influence your white
child to stab and murder your post secondary educational
child for no reason."



 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-29 16:53 [#01909280]
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daily mail article

"At the time of the attack, Dan and I were just sitting,
chatting and laughing, remembering our holiday and talking
about my 20th birthday celebrations - we had just enjoyed a
night out in Romford with our friends and were waiting for a
lift home from Dan's sister when we were attacked.

"Seconds later Dan was dead. I still can't believe it."

bbc news

the times

sorry to have put the sun as the main source of info


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-29 16:58 [#01909283]
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i just made the observation that the man in the black polo
shirt used his car keys when he punched the murdered victim.
and it was not the black guy who did the stabbing


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-29 17:09 [#01909297]
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I am shocked and sickened. I hope when they get sent down
they are severley raped ande tourtured for the rest of their
miserable lives. But the chances are that they will be out
in five years. Fuckers


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-30 04:30 [#01909553]
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I agree with SValx that a case should be impartial to the
pressures of the press. What I don't have a problem with,
however, is the Sun citing this case as reason to change the
sentencing for knife crimes in general.

Knifing is awful and it's getting a bit like Spain in many
places in the UK; scum carry a knife as a matter of course
and have few qualms about using them. It's a tricky one
though; you can't just ban carrying knives completely, or
even penalise people for having them. There are plenty of
situations where I carry a knife or screwdriver for
perfectly legitimate reasons and there are jobs where it'd
be impractical not to.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-05-30 04:36 [#01909554]
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Well, in canada, people who have a tenancy for criminally
violent behavior are banned from carrying things like
knives, and sticks.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-30 04:38 [#01909556]
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canada is a good example of a pleasant safe society. i heard
that crime isn't a problem. is this true?


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:46 [#01909562]
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like Spain?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:46 [#01909563]
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the sun is a newspaper not some legal or political instance!
at least they shouldn't be.. no newspaper should; they
should all just report the news, not carry out judgement and
make ethical statements about various things.. it's like
fucking fox news or whatever that murdoch characters network
is called! also, the sun isn't calling for changing the
sentencing of knife violence, they're just calling for these
people to get the highest possible sentence.

I've had this idea for a while about making a newspaper or
newspaper addition thing called something like "Facts."
wherein the only things reported are the particular facts
about whatever situation is being reported and in cases
where it would be required a guide to interpreting or
reading data (like a graph of something or a national
budget) for people who don't necessarily already know how
to. The use of colouring words ("awful," "tragedy," etc)
would be excluded from this newspaper. The articles wouldn't
be written by reporters, but rather by people who actually
know what they're talking about; people with an education in
whatever the report is about. Of course, there'd be some
kind of quality control making sure that particular
researchers paradigm didn't colour the article, but I also
realise that a completely uncoloured presentation of
anything at all would be quite impossible. I think I may
have to do something about this idea soon...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:49 [#01909569]
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I think ceri is a bit right-wing...


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:50 [#01909571]
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The facts you choose/exclude are a judgement.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-30 04:51 [#01909573]
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it would be impossible to create a truly objective newspaper
as at the end of the day you're still selecting what pieces
of news you put in the paper. the gatekeeper remains.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-30 04:51 [#01909574]
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damnit, somebody else has done sociology


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-30 04:52 [#01909575]
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hmmm... seems like he is...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:53 [#01909577]
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word I know.. it would be difficult, but an effort would at
least be made; there's no objectivity, but... I guarantee
it'd be better than what's out there right now.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:55 [#01909578]
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oh, I thought about that... it would be based on what the
other newspapers report; if they report a "super victory in
the war against terror!" we'd simply report casualties and
injuries, what moves were made and which tactics were
emplyed, etc.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-30 04:56 [#01909580]
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i'm sure it's been tried in the past and failed. the
mainstream (the idiots) like their news to be about
sensation. that's why the sun is the uk's biggest selling
tabloid.

if you weren't concerned about the mainstream though, i
would be interested in reading this 'facts only' paper. go
for the niche audience. they're the ones that matter.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 04:57 [#01909581]
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I mean.. it's surprising how rarely one actually gets any
sort of data on what happened in articles... they just
report vague things like "at 8 the forces moved in and
secured the victory." or something...


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-05-30 05:00 [#01909583]
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i agree. how would you go about obtaining the information?
reading other newspapers? lol


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2006-05-30 05:01 [#01909585]
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a lad that was an aquiantance of mine got stabbed to death
here in wilmslow last year. its terrible. it can happen
anywhere. i personally think the government is far too soft.
there never seems to be any fucking justice. cant wait for
the next election.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-30 05:02 [#01909587]
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I don't think it's really fair to call the mainstream people
idiots. they're just uninformed because of the shit quality
of news.

also, I said it would be a newspaper or newspaper addition..
I realise it'd be too hard to present data for every days
news, but I think it could be a nice addition at, like, the
end of the week, and it would be included inside another
newspaper, like with those magazine-ish thingies that just
report silly fashion stuff... it would be a quite too dry
newspaper to stand on its own, but when it is something
"extra," I think people would read it. This is also a
compromise (no thing is 100%) as I'd really like for it to
be independent of anything else, but I also realise that to
reach more people it'd most likely have to be either a free
newspaper (but I hate ads) or a part of another. In that
case, it would of course be the one that's already closest
to what I've sketched.


 


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