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It was absolutely atrocious at ours. Teacher was a small-minded bigot. Classical was the only style of music he recognised, but grudgingly taught taught jazz and blues as a concession to musical diversity. The nearest we came to music tech was a using Yamaha Portasounds to compose neo-classical rubbish. Never saw a computer apart from a HD recording box in the back room that no one was allowed to touch. He quite openly slated pop, dance and electronic music as "fads" and said that they were an irrelevance because they wouldn't be around in 100 years time and also that any visual element of a live performance detracted from the music and hence was wrong. As a result, I didn't do music as a subject past a stage where we absolutely had to, not even at GCSE level, in spite of singing in a choir/playing violin and generally being into music. I'd even go so far as to say he was partly responsible for a 3 year hiatus in me doing tracks, he managed to take the fun out of music that much. I recognise that music is one of those subjects, like art, that is often seen as a bit of a cop out/waste of time (despite research showing after maths and english, it's one of the most essential) and that by rigidly clinging to classicalism, it could at least be taken more seriously by the other teachers. I was disappointed with a lot of subjects in school, however, I find it exceeding difficult to forgive the way that one of my favourite things was taught so badly that it temporarily ruined my enjoyment of it. I go green with envy when I go to schools/colleges/universites and see their music rooms and they're equipped with gear and s/w I'd love in my home studio and teachers who even if at worst, they dislike electronic music personally, are at least open minded about it and are prepared to mark electronic works fairly. Did anyone else have a "fun" subject (drama, art, photography, etc.) ruined by a teacher like this? |
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well our music lessons were a bit odd. we had a great music teacher for the first few years, but a bit of an oddball. he was in the guiness book of records for playing the organ for like 80 hours with no repeats.... but then he had a breakdown. resigned in our lesson, leaving a bunch of 16 year old gcse students looking a bit vexed. then we got a replacement who was a nice guy, but a bit of a weiner and a pusher-over. i remeber walking into his year 8 class and the poor sod was nearly in tears... the state of the music facilities declined quite rapidly, and most of the gcse set lost interest. only 3 people out of 25 passed ( i got a D!) was a bit of a shame really. the old teacher was ace and really open minded about music. the only thing i can't forgive him for is making the class watch spaceballs. |
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It sucked. My teacher was only able to play flute, and he taught us how use it in better ways. I personally wasn't into electronic music yet, but as you said Ceri, I still can remember that not only my music teacher, but all teachers disliked all kinds of electronic music. |
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when i was in junior school i hated the teacher. he was scaring me. and i was very bad at flute (which was the only instrument we'd be taught)... before that, in elementary school, it was pretty much the same - the teacher insisted on making us singing every day. i was very, very shy and used to either sing very quietly, or just move my lips silently. i hated everything and everyone, from the other pupils to the teachers, in elementary school anyway. |
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in school they constantly tried to undermine my creativity by telling me how i should see the world and what my role should be, but they failed.........hehehe i had a music-teacher who teached us flute (the wooden one) but he always was pulling my ears so hard, that i couldn't hear what i was playing. after a few months my ear (the below part) start to tear and puss was coming out........ long live school |
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flute playing is for pussies |
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well i do art at the moment and the teacher is this cunt whore bitch, who always picks on us when we are just talking, and shes hell controling, trying to tell me what i have to put in my work, and i just ignore her, so i feel your pain. theres also a music department in which is quite cool, although i rarely get to see the music room place, as the head of the music department is a fucking cunt who won't let anyone not involved in music come into the room, but sometimes some others i know go up there when hes away and they play the guitar and i'll just watch and listen. but yeah teachers are stuben cunts, i know of one or two insightfull teachers, thats about all. |
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Yeah, in elementary school we used to sing as well, while my mates playing some "instrument" like xylophones and other kind of rubbish instruments. I was like uzim, very shy, especially when my parents came to see me playing in my school. I should also have some recordings taken by my father somwhere, when I sang at school, better if I don't find them because I could be able to destroy them or simply having fun by watching them maybe with my friends. |
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Ah yes. Our art teacher who objected us to talking whilst drawing (so it in no way impaired our work) was a fucker too. I notice a few people are talking about flutes, do you mean recorders or proper flutes. |
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flutes... also here.... flutes here, there and everywhere... I FUCKIN' HATE FLUTES!!!! BTW: Does Peter plays the flute? |
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when i was in school electricity wasn't discovered yet, so luckly no one had anything bad to say about electronic music. we had this cute teacher, who probably didn't have a clue about music, but that wasn't really the point. it'd be nice to have someone who knows about music to teach us, sure, but the chance to find a person like that was 1:1000000. |
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Music at my secondary school was amazing. If it wasn't for my music teacher i wouldn't be so musically inclined. Every lunch time we would all go hang out in the music rooms and Paddy (my music teacher) would listen to some new album we'd bought or he'd teach some song he'd learnt. Instead of the usual songs in classes he would teach us to play stuff like the cure. Once school summer when i was 16 he took about 30 of us out to his house in irleand and we toured round the local area playing irish folk in pubs and busking on the street. The man was a pure legend but really unappreciated in the school, he was always in trouble because he would get me out of french lessons to work on songs for concerts and stuff, i even got to sit in on a level music classes when i was still only in year 10. I have actually been trying to track him down, he left my school and moved away and i'd not seen him since. # So yeah music was brilliant at my school it was taught with an actual love for music and not by some failed musician who wanted to do anything other than share a love of music. |
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my music teacher turned out to be a paedo, so he got himself arrested. he was well creepy. |
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It's great studying music, I never did music gcse or a level. I took private lessons to get me upto the level i'm at and it's been a pleasure. All my teachers have been open minded. I write music on manuscript for other musicians and if anything it's the larger electronic music dpt. who're looking at us; the composers and thinking we're old hat or some shit, but fuck them. |
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in elementary, I had two teachers, both were focused on flute. The first one was 70 years old or something and had a heart attack in the teachers room while trying to parody modern dance. His substitute had a hole in his forehead 2 cm deep. Absolutely nothing could distract us from watching the hole. I remember playing the flute and that hole. I high shool we just prepared papers about lives of classical composers. The teacher was a lazy old man, but he was cool nonetheless. |
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Taff, did you go to school in/around Barry? If so, email me where and the teacher's name and I may be able to help. You should get in touch if you can, most teachers love meeting up with old pupils who appreciate them. |
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Very badly by a teacher who had favourites and didn't give two shits about anyone else. Would do wonderful things such as tell you your conducting was fine and that you didn't need anymore practice but then write on your official A-Level exam thing that you could've done with more practice and had sloppy conduct of the band. WHAT A GREAT TEACHER! |
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nah mate i went to secondary school in Kent (i moved around alot). His names Richard Paddy, I've been desperate to get hold of him last i heard he was in Devon and he'd sold his house in ireland but i can't seem to find him anywhere. |
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hmm, last year in music, the teacher was alright.. a little too caught up in rock music and guitar 'techniques' and all that, but he Was open minded which was good. me n a friend (daggerhappy) got an A+ for hahaha. only people in the class to get an A+ too. |
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we all held hands and sang "michael row the boat ashore." good times. |
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i found a dead website saying he was head of music at South Molton Community College in devon, now if only the site wasnt't dead. |
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No disrespect, but I think it's time for me to enrol in an A level nightclass and just ace it. :D Were the guitar and drums pre-recorded by yourselves and then fxed afterwards? |
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Primary school was just singing, and recorder which I opted out of. Secondary school was okay, very small amounts of theory and analysis, for the most part sharing a keyboard between 2-3 people and writing songs. I never really associated music in school with my personal interest. |
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haha, no. the project was to use sony acid thingo to make a song. and we put that together like in one period using the samples we found. : ) |
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we used anything. the teachers let me install and teach ppl about vst's and shiz |
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"I never really associated music in school with my personal interest. " Yes, that's exactly how I felt about it. It's only now, in retrospect that I realise I really saw no connection between music lessons and what I did with mates with a cracked copy of rebirth and acid. It's almost like the difference between cycling and English; there is no shared element at all. |
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I feel you ceri, if I didn't move my sophmore year of highschool, I might not be doing music right now, at least not studying it. In 9th grade, I was in a percussion class, and I was in the marching band, on snare drum. The teacher was a complete dick, and totally took the fun out of everything. I decided not to take any more music classes and to drop out of the marching band before the year was done. But luckily, I moved, and met the greatest music teacher ever. Since it was a small international school, it was a lot more casual. Basically if you could hold an instrument, you're in the band (and it was more like a band, not an ensemble... we had a drum set, bass, guitars, keyboards, and anything else someone played... horns, woodwinds... anything, depending on who was taking the class). As a result, my teacher would do all the arrangements for our unique instrumentations. He was so much fun, and class was really like you were getting together with friends to jam. I took it my junior and senior year, playing electric bass. I didn't know how to play at all, and I went to him, and said "hey, I want to play bass, can I try?" And he said sure! and made me tabs to get started, and then in my own time, I taught myself how to read music, and then he'd give me scores with both tab and notation, to transition. We had another bass player my junior year, so i'd sit in the back and get pointers from him, and play easier parts. My sophmore year I took a composition class (classical) as I was getting into writting electronic music, I figured some lessons wouldn't hurt. I actually didn't remember much of what I learned in the class, at the time I was more interested in electronic stuff, but it was cool, cause my teacher also produced. He make music for italian films and other things. He was really hip. Had a juno at our school (broken sadly... but the fact he had one was cool) So he would tell me about cool new gear, and stuff to read, and basically just inspired me a lot. He was the one that pointed me to Berk |
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was that even sposed to for me or giginger? oh well... and i wish i could show and teach people about vst's shiz. we were gonna do a performance infront of the class doing a dj set using tape cassettes and two tape players. we were like half way organising it and ran out of time : ( |
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to Berklee. So I owe a lot of it to him. I still see him now and again. Right now he and a friend are opening up a music school in south america, which lets local people from poor communities study music for free. He really loves music, and cares about helping people and their development. I was really lucky to have him as my teacher.... :) |
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I haven't had music since.. the grade I was in when I was 14 (you may all calculate what that would equate to in your school system, but here it's one step up from the child school thinige). all musical education was basic recorder/guitar and classic rock combos. |
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wow, sounds like a really cool guy. er.. yeah, good on him! |
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we learnt about beethoven, bach, sachmo, beatles and sex pistols. and we "learnt" to play guitar |
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Sounds awesome. The music department at my university is pretty good for contemporary things (Altai from the board studies there and one of the ISB guys is a lecturer). If I ever went back full time (IE to do a doctorate) I'd take a few of the free music modules on the side. |
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we just got shouted at and made to wrrite instead of play the fun instrruments, forr ourr naughtiness. |
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i did music as GCSE and got an E |
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since i was borned retarded i had to play the drums instead of the guitar, i recall. just because they couldn't bother switching the strings to goofy. |
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every cunt in my school was a snob cunt about music, bad mouthing kraftwerk the wankers, always jerking off to shitty music like....shit, like this group of guys always stuck to rock based stuff like nirvanna, now don't get me wrong but nirvana are cool, and the cure etc... its just that all of them could not understand electronic music, i mean i did not push it over to them, i merely tried to explain to them the concept behind it, but they just passed it off, wankers. at least there was one cunt who was into radiohead, ideotechque, and he knew i liked aphex :) |
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nirvana >> kraftwerk |
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it was great! when i was 14 we got 2 new teachers together with the old geezer, all of them had a hard job as this we were going to be the 1st year doing the new gcse and they had no guidelines whatsoever. they were all friendly, encouraging, joking, especially with the ones who geniunly took an interest. and i had access to 2 sh-101s, a juno, 2 drum machines, and any instruments you can dream of. sounds like i was quite lucky really. |
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wrong! |
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*Says in speak and spell voice*, "That's incorrect..." |
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it was shite! not that the teacher was bad, but the subject was so narrow - classical and nothing else. the teacher wanted to teach us other stuff. i never did it into GCSE, mainly because i didnt think i could get a job out of it. at the time i wasnt really into much music at all, and so i suprised everyone when i got 100% in the theory exam - and beat the school super-swot. so chuffed i was. |
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they rreally have dumbed the GCSEs down you know, it's stupid. |
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i was taught chior in primary school and how to play the tin whistle, at the time i wasen't interested in music at all really. allways playing off note on purpose, in secondary school currently music is not even on the curriculum... |
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one time we sang "bohemian rapsody" kicked ass |
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what is GCSE? in elementary school I had a hippy music teacher that absolutely loved me. Currently I'm taking an electronic music course, but it's mostly about indeterminacy and making processes that generate music, which is neat. |
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except that the students in my class are all retarded and obnoxious Garage Band fanatics that just want to make techno, so my teacher is often less-than-pleasant. |
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it was rather good.. but not from an academic point of view (we'd not do much work towards scoring high in the exam, instead we'd just sit around and analyse music, neglecting all the other parts of the course) i brought in zappa's hot rats and aphex's drukqs one day and he couldn't get enough of drukqs. i wanted to put on some zappa but he wouldn't let me because he said he knew "what that'll sound like, but this stuff is genuinely unique and interesting". he listened to mt st michel at least twice and aussosis and kesson dalef about 10 times each. loved it. so yeah, it was nice and layed-back. |
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that's neat. I've always tried to share stuff like drukqs, and recently untilted, with people, but I always get "you're weird" looks. |
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I only talked about Upper School. Middle School was the fucking nuts. Really enthusiastic teachers in regards to music. It was never too much trouble to them to help you out and show you where you went wrong etc and they encouraged to "experiment" or at least try instruments you wouldn't normally pick up. One of the teachers could play the Harp too and that was magical to watch. In Lower School I had an excellent music teacher too. Sadly I only had her for a year though as she had a breakdown of some sorts. Shame. My Piano teacher was fantastic too. He really liked you to bring in a piece of music you'd heard and liked and he'd either work out a piano version on the spot or find you something quite similar to play. He really was a great teacher. One of the best Pianists I've ever seen too. Just sat down with a brand new piece and played it night on perfect first time. Then he'd say "That needs some work, I'll have a go at that in the week". He'd play it next week and it was sublime. Really digged Avril 14th too. Worked that one out on the spot too. Bastard. He got me interested in so many different styles of piano playing. It's a shame he doesn't teach anymore :( Also, it would be a 2 hour drive to have lessons because I've moved house. |
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