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I don't know why but I don't trust Steven Harper. After reading all that "IMAGE MAKE OVER" junk about him last year, and after he crumbled to the whims of America (after Jean Chretien called G.Bush a moron and appologized on behalf of all of Canada(, it just seems like the guy is completely evil. I mean look how he is getting votes. He is being very clever on how he words everything. Like not to be all typical anti USA government, and I don't usually care about politics, but I really don't trust this guy. NO gay marrage NO abortions MORE weapons for our army It makes no sense. NONE. The guy is being sponsored himself in advertising and publicists what a hipocrite to be talking about ACCEPTING MONEY. WHO IS PAYING FOR HIS TV TIME? PHOTOSHOOTS AND NEWS PAPER SPOTS? I just really wish the "corner gas" voters would go a little bit further then WATCHING CBC and find out the real information about him. I feel like they want to take away all of our rights, and they keep refering to the sponsorship scandel to win votes. Placing blame. It seems so backwards. Can anyone shed light and help me think another way about this? Or do you agree with what I am saying? Any thoughts? |
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i totally agree with you man. steven harper is shifty as fuck. it seems like he wants to make canada into america's bitch or america#2 or something.... everytime i see him on tv talking he's vague as fuck and i really have no idea what his agenda is.... plus look at him, look in his eyes. he looks dead, man. no emotion, nothing-he's like a robot. i dont trust him for one second. |
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Just think of how great it could be. Lower minimum wage for any company selling products to the us. Military assistance for the US in Irac. Word on the street is conscription is the new rock and roll. |
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In other words, you are 100% correct. This guy isn't even using clever words. He is targetting to the lowest common denominator and turning canadian politics into the wrestling match that it is in the us. If he manages to get elected, I will have lost my last shred of respect for this desparate country. |
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You lefty fucks need some free enterprise. Pull yourselves up by the bootstraps! |
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im voting layton only b/c i know he would never win and he is good at being the opposition |
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ECW ! |
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So what should we do? Virginpusher: "ROLLING THUNDER! ROLLING THUNDER! ROLLING THUNDER! ROLLING THUNDERRRRRRRRR! " |
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green party! |
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yeah, harper is not good for canada.. imagine if he was prime minister. blah. makes me want to vote. |
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that last line got a solid chuckle out of me. |
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vote for the bloc quebecois! theyre probably anti-american |
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not to mention anti-canadian |
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true, bloody quebecians do they want quebec independence as a party or is it just a few hardline frenchies within the party? (dont actually know much about canadian politics) |
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Well, if we lived in quebec, then I could vote for them. But I don't live in quebec. I hear they are going to be supporting the liberals, and the NDP are going to be supporting the conservatives, so I am not going to vote for ndp or conservative. I guess its liberal. Its too bad, because I wanted to vote green, but that would be just as good as not voting and letting the conservatives win :( |
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They want independance, with the support of the canadian banks. So pretty much, they want their own laws, their own government, their own everything, but they want the support of the canadian economy. Kind of stupid really, but they do have more seats than any other province, and their votes really count. Spoiled quebecouis. They get everything they ask for (except independance). |
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why would the NDP support the conservatives? that makes no sense at all. anyhow i will be voting for layton until further notice. |
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I vote Bloc Québécois of course, it's the only way I can vote. p.s.: Ezkerraldean yeah you better STFU next time. p.p.s.: Taxidermist you don't know much about the NA trade laws or the globalisation movement. We want open doors for free trade between us and Canada. Oh and Ontario has more seats. We aren't spoiled, we are tired of your assimilation for centuries. It just take time for us to do it. |
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Admitedly, I don't know much about globalisation and NA trade laws. But I was being sarcastic. Although the fact that all products produced in canada need to have both french and english labels on them, but products sold in quebec only require french labels kind of indicate that there is some unfairness there. As far as I am concerned quebec can separate and become their own country. I support anybodys political choice to whatever rights they seem to think they want. PPS. You say assimilation and whatever, but the french settlers came over here by choice. African settlers did not. Natives did not have any choice in who settled here. Give those groups what they want first. |
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I'm sorry but they don't just require french labels. They are as bilingual as you guys have. Perhaps its those kind of things that will also make you accept that our own sovereignty is there also to help YOU, not only us. Canada has no value anymore as it is currently, the perequation is fucked up, money goes everywhere unbalanced. |
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"When Reality Check called the Conservatives before Christmas to inquire about the costs of their tax cuts, the party's media representatives confirmed, on two occasions in fact, that a Harper government would keep the reduction in the tax bracket for low-income earners... Now, however, a policy spokesman with the Conservative campaign called back to say the party will be keeping the reduction only for the 2005 tax year should they assume office." (CBC.ca, January 5, 2006) |
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I figured the NDP would be supporting the Torries, I mean there are so many chances for them to take shots at Stalin Harper but they don't. Yeah I never the duty to vote this much ever. I really don't want that guy to win. |
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BAH The board needs an edit function for those missing words and grammer errors ! |
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I'm torn between the NDP and the Liberals. A vote for the NDP gives the Conservitives more power and the Liberals have yet to change anything. Jack Leyton has been making a lot of sense recently. Harper should be sent back to the middle ages where he belongs and Paul Martin is just the lesser of two evils. |
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if in fact the NDP does end up supporting the conservatives and they govern together, Layton either keeps Harper somewhat in check or the union dissolves pretty quickly. i'm growing more and more indifferent as to whether the conservatives or the liberals win, because when it comes to a lot of nitty gritty policy both parties seem quite pragmatic, which is to say some times the tories seem more left than the liberals and vice versa. i think a more sincere left (a loaded description, i know) is on the rise, and i'd like to be a part of that, regardless of whether we win now... as it becomes more and more clear to voters that there are legitimate alternatives to voting PC or liberal, they will be more likely to vote for them without thinking they are throwing their vote away. you've got to build from something, and i guess the terrain is sufficiently unstable enough that i'm not to worried about the big guys having sufficient control of the country for long enough to fuck it up badly either way. |
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Well, I would agree with you for the most part, except that the conservatives would make things pretty messy, not out of stupidity or spite or anything, but out of fear. Especially right now, when the international image is extremely important due to the way things are in the US, if the conservatives get into power and appear to side to much for or against the US, then that will through things out of whack even more internationally. Taking into account that harpers and bushes political stature run a parallel course, I could see this getting very very messy for canada. |
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I hope the right-wing fella wins. |
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You keep on saying your not a troll. But you keep on saying things to egg people on. Thats what trolls do. |
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I'm entitled to my opinion. I just hate liberals and socialists more than conservatives. |
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Ok. Well, you have fun with that. |
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very rarely do people live in truly mixed ridings the vote for your MP is probably between the ndp/liberals or conservatives/liberals if you live in an ndp/liberal battle zone, a vote for the ndp will not help the conservatives, since they would not have had a chance anyway (usually) just remember what you'll be seeing on every corner if you vote ndp: public heroin injection sites |
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and lots of gayboys packing the fudge at every bus stop... oh and don't forget people getting married to their pet turtles... |
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don't believe that bullshit about strategic voting. vote your conscience. like in america, we had Bush vs Kerry and people thought they were beating the system by voting Kerry just so somebody besides bush would win. well, guess what? those people lost. and they've got nothing to show for it except they can live with the fact they voted for a shit candidate they didn't really believe in. |
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I would see that as being a better thing than a worse thing. Nothing says awesome like someone who breaks into a car to steal stuff to get money for heroin, then buying that heroin on the street in front of businesses and families that are walking around, and then shooting up in a totally public area. If they make it controled instead of illegal, it helps eliminate all three of those problems. |
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FUCK. HE WON. |
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Thank God, now we can finally end this nightmare of freedom, prosperity and budget surpluses. |
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i voted green. :) |
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Why did you bother to even show up? |
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and hopefully we can get involved in some wars, stop abortion and all be good American Christians |
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dammit, tories. dont like canada anymore |
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Give it 18 months or so and we will be back to the polls |
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Well, I voted liberal, and luckily my district voted liberal too. But I can't believe that in a time when things are supposed to be progressing, canada votes in the one party that is going to make things worse. Think about it: the liberals had a bit of a scandal, and some money went missing. Is that any worse than spending money on militarizing the north? No. If the same ammount of money was spent on both, I would be equaly pissed. But then, I also want to see as little military presence as possible in canada. So I am double pissed. |
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fuck stephen harper |
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I voted NDP, specifically for Sven Robinson. If a guy can get away with stealing a Diamond ring and still represent his party. I want that man representing me! |
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LOL... I like that logic. I think they should make a not section on the next election. For every Not Conservative ballot recieved, that is one vote to any party that comes in second to the conservitaves. Aren't you on the island? Isn't sven robinson in vancouver main? |
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Harper will not touch abortion. He will put same-sex marriage to a free vote in Parliament - the way it's supposed to be done. And, in my opinion, a strong military is beneficial to the country. |
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Pffft. Then let him put heterosexual marriage to a vote as well, and if it doesn't pass let heterosexual marriage be banned. Does that sound fair? |
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they have no real partner, so we should be okay. |
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how does that benefit the country? |
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mexico's got us in the crosshairs. |
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