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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 16:21 [#01803530]
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Hi guys, I've been wondering, what exactly are these 303 things? What do they do? I like music, and would like to create it, but I clueless about these things. If you have a 909, would it be wise to still use a 303 as well? etc...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-19 16:23 [#01803533]
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What is google?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 16:25 [#01803535]
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Some search engine for finding information, like info about 303s etc? Why do you ask?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-12-19 16:28 [#01803538]
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i thought you had posted your music here before. you had a "listen to my music and i'll listen to yours" thread.
and as i recall, you never listened to my music. you fucking tricked me into listening to your music, you bastard.
for this reason, i can't reveal the secret of the 303 to you.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-12-19 16:30 [#01803540]
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 16:31 [#01803541]
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Haha... sorry man, I tried to get around to everyones... I couldn't though, damn... how the hell did you remember? That was like almost 2 years ago!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-12-19 16:39 [#01803549]
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i keep a careful catalog of each and every slight i receive here at xltronic.
more importantly, your username is uncommonly memorable.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 16:54 [#01803569]
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i'm having a hard time taking you serious heh
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 16:55 [#01803571]
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Your record bag just made me laugh, how IDM is that?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 16:58 [#01803574]
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Why?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 17:33 [#01803595]
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those x0x arent version numbers
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 17:37 [#01803598]
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please google, dont forget to add "tb" to the 303, and "tr" to the rest... then you shalth knoweth
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 17:37 [#01803599]
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I remember looking a site with a bunch of pictures of the things, but they never said what exactly you do with each.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-19 17:38 [#01803601]
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Okay, I'll see what I can find.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 17:57 [#01803613]
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i can explain that here basicly, the TB303 is used for the acid bassline sound in ACID music, and the TR x0x ones are mostly used in the same music too. Tr606 was the drummachine brother of the tb303. The TR-x0x ones are all drummachines.
clear? clear. listen ceephax you'll get it
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-19 18:03 [#01803616]
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or Universal Indicator Red
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-12-19 19:01 [#01803635]
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You forgot 808.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-12-19 19:02 [#01803636]
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Listen to Newbuild by 808 State.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-19 19:50 [#01803648]
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an informative read : http://www.mccready.cwc.net/guide808.html
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-12-19 20:06 [#01803654]
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-12-20 02:30 [#01803707]
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Too late to enter, but read down that thread and you should find a DL of Re-birth 2.0. A pretty good software emulation of the 303,808 and 909. Enjoy.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-12-20 02:45 [#01803711]
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The transistor bass 303 was supposed to be a realistic bass-partner for serious musicians, but because the sound was so unrealistic nobody bought them and they became dirt cheap.
Then some poor black people in detroit started buying them at their low price and eventually figured out that tweaking the cut/res in realtime while the pattern was playing could create some very cool and squelchy sounds; acid.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2005-12-20 02:54 [#01803713]
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I hate 808 snares!
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-12-20 02:59 [#01803714]
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yeah, they are classic but their sound turns me off when i hear it in a track.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-12-20 03:00 [#01803715]
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I think they're the best snares ever actually.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2005-12-20 03:03 [#01803716]
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let's snare fight!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-12-20 03:05 [#01803717]
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Then people's love of the 303 blew out of all proportion and people started paying way over the odds for a very limited bit of hardware, in the misguided belief that buying a genuine 303 (as opposed to using the near-indistinguishable, once mastered, Audiorealism Bassline VST) will give them the programming skills of Mssrs. Atkins, May, Saunderson, et al.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-12-20 03:10 [#01803720]
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i suggest to Roland that if they want to continue the series they should take hex numbers to follow the three-number where first and last are same and the middle one is nothing but a zero tradition, like: Roland TRA0A, B0B and so on until the F letter.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-12-20 03:14 [#01803722]
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Indeed indeed.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-20 07:13 [#01803788]
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hahaha what programming skills ?? they used to take the batteries out + put em back in to get it to fill with random patterns
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-12-20 07:27 [#01803795]
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A couple of them admitted to doing that on some tracks, but then that's sort of filtered by their good taste actually selecting which of those patterns to use. Then there's going back and tweaking those random patterns to, for example, eliminate one note that doesn't work, or change the U/S/A/D settings.There's also the performance aspect of their use of rhythmically twisting the cutoff/res. knobs which a lot of people seem not too 'get' and instead do rather mechanically, if at all.
I don't know what it is, but there's something tragically mediocre about a lot of acid lines and the truly killer ones are a rare event.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-20 08:33 [#01803818]
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yeah know what u mean like the best ones are pure sex
it can be an acid bassline and NOT be a PROPER acid bassline, u dont even notice it... its just another synth in there
the knob twisty bit is true too...when it goes WhuH whuuuH ! in phuture acid trax im thinking about. its chewy
im going to listen to "this is acid" now
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-20 08:34 [#01803820]
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gescom / slow acid ,4min into it
now THAT is in-fuking-credible acid
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-20 08:36 [#01803823]
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6min into slow acid
now THAT is a dripping wet acid line
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-12-20 09:02 [#01803843]
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I definately agree that you get ones in tracks that just seem like other synth lines and you don't even notice them.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-20 09:09 [#01803845]
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like the Tom Jenk. one in "Whooshie"?
EPICCOORREEE
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ToXikFB
on 2005-12-20 09:51 [#01803854]
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-20 09:55 [#01803855]
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yeah slow acid is fckin sick
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-20 10:48 [#01803871]
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Toxif, is that supargreg #1
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-20 11:48 [#01803894]
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What would you suppose Aphex used for Byddhonchord? And how about Squarepusher on Theme from Ernest Borgnine? Whatever Autechre used for Incunabula is magical...
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-12-20 12:19 [#01803912]
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Well, the lovely melodies in Theme from Ernest Borgnine are made with an SH-101, except for the last few minutes - that acid bassline is the TB-303. Also, the drums on Bike and Autriche from Incunabula were made with a TR-606.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-12-20 12:27 [#01803920]
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I used to own a 303, but I sold it when I was broke. The 202 is loads better though. My friend has one - it is great fun to play with and the sounds are so good you just want to eat them.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-12-20 12:35 [#01803927]
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mmmmmmmmmmm....
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Diao
from Olathe (United States) on 2005-12-20 14:08 [#01804008]
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If you want some killer acid lines, check out the Flashbulb. his acid lines are fucking sick.
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hinotori
on 2005-12-20 21:06 [#01804244]
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the mc-202 is ok, but needs other kit to support it up. but can be modified to be a nice crazy semi-modular synthesizer (not quite a ms-20 though) with built in sequencer.....ACIIIIIIIIEEEEEED
mr.fingers earnt his name...tweak tweak
keep on moding in the real world......... ;)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-20 21:07 [#01804245]
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GESCOM - SLOW ACID
ACID TO END ALL ACID
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-12-20 22:26 [#01804256]
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the 202's sequencer is a pain, though
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-12-20 22:48 [#01804260]
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if roland re-released this stuff. soo many people would get it. and theyd be heaps fucken rich.
and everyone would be happy.
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-12-20 22:52 [#01804264]
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man, if slow acid didnt have the word acid in it. i so wouldnt of realised it was acid...
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hinotori
on 2005-12-21 00:11 [#01804270]
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yeah 202 seq is a pain... especially live. wish all was as easy to use as a 606 ;)
anyone made hilarious acid tracks using "rebirth" ???
or good acid tracks........ ?
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