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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2005-12-10 10:37 [#01797582]
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cant wait to open it and play Kameo all night :D anyone got the console, what u think about it ?
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staz
on 2005-12-10 10:38 [#01797584]
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i have it and i love it and condemned is the scariest piece of game ever.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-12-10 10:41 [#01797587]
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I. Do. Not. Have. It.
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2005-12-10 10:44 [#01797589]
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condemned ? what is it about ?
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2005-12-10 10:49 [#01797593]
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here we only got a bunch of pre-existing games just reported on the 360, except Kameo, thats why i chosed it.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-12-10 10:49 [#01797594]
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do not move the xbox 360 when a cd/dvd is turning inside it, there's a fabrication flaw and you would destroy your cd/dvd !!!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-12-10 10:50 [#01797595]
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I think they are pieces of shit in all ways. No redeeming qualities.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-12-10 10:50 [#01797596]
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Isn't the new XBox supposed to be recalled cause it keeps falling apart?
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2005-12-10 10:51 [#01797598]
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good to know Combo, thx
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-12-10 11:13 [#01797610]
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I'm so happy for you glasseater, a recent survey suggests that the common wank pleasure is increased by 3.07% when the wankee is within a 3 meter radius of an Xbox 360.
My mum's buying me one for Xmas, yay!
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-12-10 11:26 [#01797616]
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not to spoil your pleasure... check this out
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-12-10 11:34 [#01797620]
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I hope that isn't the reason why she's buying it for you.
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-12-10 11:39 [#01797622]
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well pretty much, but apparently you can watch DVDs on it too so that's good..it has some other use :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-10 11:39 [#01797623]
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i despise game consoles.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-12-10 11:41 [#01797624]
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play less, live more
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-10 12:14 [#01797650]
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hear, hear
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-10 12:27 [#01797661]
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I do not have one, and I don't plan on buying on either, I actually told a friend of mine that he can kick me in the nuts 360 times if I were to buy one. And believe me he's holding me to it as well..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 12:37 [#01797668]
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how are the so called next generation graphics then?
only reviews I've seen about the 360 as of yet say that the graphics just as easily could've been ps2.. of course, this only goes for the first of the games which naturally don't know how to use the engines or whatever properly, but.. how does it look and play?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-10 12:38 [#01797670]
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Yeah, Dead or Alive 4 doesn't look much better than DOA3...
No, that wasn't supposed to be sarcastic.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-12-10 12:39 [#01797672]
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Video Games are waste of time
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-10 12:41 [#01797674]
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Exactly, you could spend that money on some good CDs, or some music equipment.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-10 12:42 [#01797675]
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Aren't you that guy that used to be obsessed with Avril Lavigne?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-12-10 12:43 [#01797678]
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Avril is fuckable
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-12-10 12:44 [#01797679]
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A lot of people may think that music is a waste of time and you could spend on video games the money you spend on music.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2005-12-10 12:46 [#01797683]
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Thats true... you gotta also consider, most drug addicts consider everything that isn't drugs a waste of money.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-12-10 12:48 [#01797684]
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You should play with them instead.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-12-10 12:49 [#01797687]
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are you some kind of music addict ?
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staz
on 2005-12-10 13:26 [#01797765]
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next gen graphics are awesome
condemned is the shit
i will repeat forever
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-10 13:30 [#01797768]
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I lost interest in Game Consoles years ago, but I saw a game on demonstration today through, which did look fantastic. It was a first person shooter called Call of Duty 2, which might encourage me to fork out in the new year. The trouble is I'll rarely have the time or feel bothered enough to play on it, except at weekends.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-12-10 13:31 [#01797771]
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MUSIC is good for the soul. VideoGames are just a waste of time
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-12-10 13:33 [#01797773]
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and music you can't lose interest in, because you can listen to it on the way to work everyday.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-12-10 16:05 [#01797870]
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From all accounts, Kameo or Condemned or Call of Duty running in big screen 1080i glory is a sight to behold. Most def next gen.
Not that I'd know, Microsoft still hasn't shipped any 360s to my island out here floating in the Atlantic. Any day now. Just have to keep telling myself that. Any day now.
I'm more excited about playing Splinter Cell, Halo, Ninja Gaiden, GTA etc in HD than I am about the new games!
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2005-12-10 16:10 [#01797872]
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I don't game at all, but, in a weird way, I am hanging out for Ophecks to finally get an Xbox 360 and share his panty-wetting excitement with us all.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:12 [#01797874]
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the things I read just said that while most of the games just looked like ps2 graphics, the rest of them looked like everything was covered in goo... thinking back to the walls and ground on halo (+2), that could very well be correct, as everything there seemed to have some sort of goo-ish reflection on it...
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:17 [#01797875]
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ps2 graphics? you really have no sense of graphics at all, do you?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:20 [#01797877]
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not my words.. trained 3d-graphics people (which is why they got the invitation to test the machines for free), actually, so I kind of think I'll trust them...
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:23 [#01797881]
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or rather the magazine you read... what was it, something norwegian no doubt? norwegian gaming press is horrible. actually, most gaming press in general is horrible. i got call of duty 2 and condemned, and i'm positive none of these games could be done on "current gen" hardware. they run at stable, smooth framerates and utilize a ton of new hardware features that look great. there's a bit of "plastic action man" feel to the characters in cod2, but that's a graphical bottleneck we'll continue to see for a little while in character design. it'll pass, though. already gotten better from far cry, where people really looked like dolls.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-12-10 16:23 [#01797882]
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Oh they're most definitely wrong or have a dubious agenda. Unless there's another system called the PS2 that is not related at all to the Playstation 2.
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:23 [#01797883]
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hahahaha, "trained 3d-graphics people" is one of the vaguest terms i've ever heard.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:29 [#01797887]
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eh.. most of them work in 3d-graphics with creating different things (everything from visualisations of housing projects through movie cg to games (those funcom people are there somewhere)).. one of them was actually a writer for something now that you mention it, but I don't know what...
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:31 [#01797889]
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well, after playing games since 1990, i think i'm qualified to speak about graphics as well, and this stuff could not have been done on a ps2 at all. and this is just a scrawny start on top of that, they're utilizing like 10-25% of the hardware so far. and it already looks brilliant.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:34 [#01797890]
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I'd probably trust you more on gameplay reviews than them, though... most of them are really silly about stuff like that, but they know graphics...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-12-10 16:45 [#01797894]
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They can't possibly be talking from a technical perspective, because that would make less than zero sense. It's just objectively incorrect, full stop. But I do think there are PS2 games that can compete with Xbox 360 games visually in an ARTISTIC sense. Perfect Dark pushes billions of polygons and runs in 1920 x 1080 widescreen resolution but still looks cheesy compared to, say, Silent Hill 3 running in 640 x 480 with jaggies up the wazoo.
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:48 [#01797898]
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why wouldn't i be just as discerning about graphics? anyway, ophecks knows what i'm talking about. shadow of the colossus on the ps2 is MILES better artistically than PDZ.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:52 [#01797901]
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well, that's just the thing. though the games may have a higher resolution, they still just looked like ps2-games, apparently.
so that would be the same as saying "oh, a television image doesn't look as good as this game; it's got such a low resolution."
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-10 16:54 [#01797903]
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well, there is kind of a difference between just having played games, and actually studying and making them... even though I've listened to lots of music, would you trust me over some studio-technician if I said "this album is incredibly well mastered" and he said "fuck no!" ?
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:56 [#01797906]
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it's not just that, the polycount is way higher than what the ps2 can handle, the mapping techniques are way more advanced, the lighting is more advanced, the shadowing techniques are more advanced... and this is just single thread software. there's five more available. i think the only game that looks current gen save for the resolution is amped (some number). that game just looks vile.
if those guys really mean that the games look exactly like a ps2 games, they have no idea what they're talking about. technically, that's spouting ridiculous bullshit.
also, you're kinda arguing on the behalf of some other people here, so i don't know how much sincerity and accuracy you're portraying. which is why this whole part of the discussion is pretty limited and just kinda retarded.
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staz
on 2005-12-10 16:59 [#01797907]
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i've programmed for quite a while, i've built maps since doom and i know several graphics engines pretty well. i know i'm not game developer type of material, but i think i'm pretty qualified to speak about it in more than a purely superficial manner. i know a little more about the gears that make the mechanism. also, it's just banal to compare it to ps2 graphics. it's evidently idiotic by any dimwit's standards.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-12-10 17:01 [#01797908]
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If they don't like what the Xbox 360 games look like, it has nothing to do with the Xbox 360 itself. Clearly it's capable of spitting out truly NEXT-GEN visuals. Anybody who states otherwise is not being reasonable or objective. What do they think is ''good graphics''? F.E.A.R? That's about as high end as it gets and the 360 could run that game with ease, try doing that on a PS2.
But they're free to dislike the art-styles and presentations. That's an issue that has nothing to do with the 360's capabilities. Perfect Dark may have inept artistic direction, but the game is most certainly ''next gen'' no matter how you slice it. For better or worse.
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staz
on 2005-12-10 17:01 [#01797910]
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*that should read by even any, i am tired and a bit crunk
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