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offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-19 11:10 [#01782310]
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Bark Psychosis - Hex
Mogwai - Young Team
Tortoise - TNT

Haven't heard much GY!BE, but I guess they deserve a place
here as well


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782312]
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i dispute all of them, therefore they aren't undisputable


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-11-19 11:14 [#01782313]
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Young Team isnt that good


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:20 [#01782316]
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Arab Strap - Philophobia.



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782318]
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Labradford - Mi Media Naraja

and here's some music


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:23 [#01782321]
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I dispute that, I flogged my copy because it was ruddish.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782347]
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Definitely Bark Psychosis - Hex

Disco Inferno - D.I. Go Pop / Technicolour
Anything by Durruti Column (whether he's post-rock I don't
know)
The For Carnation
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden / Laughing Stock
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
Butterfly Child - Onomatapeaia (sp?)
Ya lo tengo
Low
Slint

um...



 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:39 [#01782349]
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I don't like these band. =|


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782350]
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I was speaking about :

Bark Psychosis
Mogwai
Tortoise


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:40 [#01782351]
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Yo la tengo rule.

I really like "and then nothing turned itself inside out."

So much that I got a t-shirt.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 11:41 [#01782352]
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C'mon some of them aren't post rock ! eg : talk talk


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:43 [#01782353]
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Hey Combo, how about you just miss this one opportunity to
display to all and sundry you haven't a clue what you're
talking about?


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-19 11:45 [#01782357]
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Hood - Cold House
Lambchop - Nixon
The Sea and Cake - One Bedroom



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:51 [#01782363]
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I can think of lots of groups I would consider either the
indirect founders of post rock or that would later be known
as Post Rock... but it gets a bit hazy with Post Punk. Say
Durutti Column, I'd put him in both camps. Do you recall
when they tried to call it Math Rock, holy fuck! Luckily it
all went Jazz and then that was the end of the scene, like
what happened with Rock, Drum n Bass, electronica and pretty
much every other genre.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:53 [#01782364]
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spirit of eden is just totally brilliant. i know i will
never tire of listening to it. and eventually i'll probably
like laughing stock as much when i mature a bit more.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782369]
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low are superb. their unique style of vocal harmonies and
slow grunge guitars are a match made in heaven. their last
album was a bit odd, almost "happy" which made uncomfortable
listening. but 'things we lost in the fire' and 'trust' are
must-listens.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 11:58 [#01782370]
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But what about but what about but what bout but what about
have you got Mark Hollis' solo album?

O.Rang as well, some other members of Talk Talk, I liked
some of their material, with Graham Sutton of Bark Psychosis
in there somewhere too.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 12:00 [#01782374]
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what about a silver mt zion



 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-11-19 12:01 [#01782376]
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autechre - untilted (tolstoyed, support me here!)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 12:03 [#01782381]
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i do have it. in fact i bought it! it's even more difficult
on the ear, i'll have to go back to it at some point. all i
remember about it is that it's even more sparse than
laughing stock, but an obvious continuation into the
obscure.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:16 [#01782406]
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I think I know Talk Talk better than you, stupid.


 

offline slint on 2005-11-19 12:22 [#01782410]
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gastr del sol-upgrade and afterlife
slint-spiderland
tortoise-millions now living will never die
don caballero-2

these are the best


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 12:26 [#01782413]
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Please explain why the many people that regard Talk Talk's
"Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock" as the corner stones
of Post-Rock are all wrong. Use some of the information
found in this LAZY_Google search on Talk Talk + Post
Rock
that returns 176.000 results to back up your
argument.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:36 [#01782422]
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lol


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:41 [#01782428]
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ok, if you want

when you see that Mouse On Mars's Autoditacker is one of the
best post rock albums according to allmusic, everything is
possible


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-19 12:43 [#01782429]
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nevertheless MVB isn't post rock


 

offline furoi from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 13:10 [#01782455]
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slint - spiderland
tortoise - millions now living will never die
mogwai - young team
june of 44 - four great points
rodan - rusty

for example :)

i don't know sigur ros and other recent stuff


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 13:34 [#01782474]
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ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space :)


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 13:50 [#01782497]
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in terms of what is definitely within the historical bounds
of post-rock... um, maybe just TNT and the self-titled the
For Carnation album... but when you open up the term as it
has been in this thread (and i agree with its opening for
the record... because there isn't much to distinguish
post-rock proper from a lot of music which wouldn't quite
get tagged as such):

Low- I Could Live in Hope
Talk Talk- Spirit of Eden
and uh... hmm... i dunno there really isn't that many
undisputed classics...


 

offline furoi from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-19 14:14 [#01782512]
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talk talk such a shame, it's my life?



 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-19 14:15 [#01782514]
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what about swan ?



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-19 14:36 [#01782526]
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yes, them


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:04 [#01782535]
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What's MBV then? As I said, and THE LEGEND OF ALL MUSIC
KNOWLEDGE Dead Eight said, to just stick to what
historically was labelled "Post Rock" would probably begin
and end with Tortoise, maybe Godspeed your whatever. BUT,
the fact of the matter is, there are albums that came before
the popularity of the term Post Rock that went without any
easy labels or genre tagging, and were a direct influence on
what would become Post Rock. I would put My Bloody Valentine
among them and cite them under Post Rock accordingly, as if
you want to call them Shoegazers, I'd have to punch you.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:14 [#01782539]
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i'm kind of not clear on why post rock only starts in the
90s and not in, say for example, the 70s


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:16 [#01782543]
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I think it's, if anything, Post Punk II.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-19 15:17 [#01782545]
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Jimi Hendrix I'd stick in post rock.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-19 15:18 [#01782547]
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which would mean that the latest wave of (faux) post punk
would have to be at least Post Punk III or IV...


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:14 [#01783050]
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Here's five of the best post rock albums imo

Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Do Make Say Think - Winter Hymn Secret Hymn Country Hymn
GY!BE - Lift Yr Skinny Fists..
Slint - Spiderland
Sigur Ros - Takk


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:15 [#01783052]
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..MBV is shoegazer, not post rock..


 

offline paolo_p from behind on 2005-11-20 09:24 [#01783062]
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slint is correct


 

offline xkejjer from Malta on 2005-11-20 09:26 [#01783063]
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gybe - lift your skinny fists bla bla bla



 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:30 [#01783066]
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I can't believe how people can listen to crapy bands such as
Godspeed or Silver Mt Zion ! Their music is just boring
bullshit with dull melodies.
Tortoise and Sigrus ros are not a lot better.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:36 [#01783070]
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Deal with it.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 09:55 [#01783082]
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maybe we just have inferior taste to you, yes that must be
it.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:56 [#01783086]
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probably, yeah


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 09:56 [#01783087]
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but don't be sad, you're forgiven


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 09:57 [#01783088]
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Either that, or Combo is a brown noser who knows better than
everyone else.


 

offline thodob from Bergen (Norway) on 2005-11-20 10:42 [#01783133]
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salvatore - fresh


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:36 [#01783287]
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Noway, loserrrr boy. Godspeed are the shittt!


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:45 [#01783290]
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ok, i don't want to spoil your pleasure of listening to crap


 


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