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Undisputable Post-Rock Classics
 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:48 [#01783292]
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You just hate them because they're from Montreal, FASCIST!
PROOF!

I used to think they were eons ahead of Sigur, but now I
listen to Sigur far more. Godspeed are the more rewarding of
the two though, ultimately, and the more inventive, if not
the most immediate.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:51 [#01783294]
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Sorry, I really can't listen to these bands more then 2
minutes before getting bored. Nevertheless Sigur Ros is
perhaps not bad as background music, but GYBE is absolutely
pissing me off each time I hear them.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:54 [#01783296]
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I think I hate them near as much as Radiohead.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:58 [#01783298]
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Don't listen to them then.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:59 [#01783299]
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That's what I do, but please don't write their names on the
messageboard.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 14:37 [#01783313]
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I can't listen to Sigur Ros as background music...


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 15:01 [#01783331]
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Godspeed You Black Emporer
Godspeed You Black Emporer
Godspeed You Black Emporer
Godspeed You Black Emporer
Godspeed You Black Emporer!!

Ha!


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 15:26 [#01783342]
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Emperor

Honestly.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-20 15:27 [#01783343]
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anyone care for labradford?


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-21 03:49 [#01783545]
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yes. they're lovely. wr is my favourite sir.


 

offline pf from Finland on 2005-11-21 03:59 [#01783546]
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Explosions in the sky, anything by them. And GY!BE's Albania


 

offline staz on 2005-11-21 04:04 [#01783548]
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Labradford is great.

Mogwai is terrible.


 

offline staz on 2005-11-21 04:07 [#01783549]
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Oh, and GY!BE - Slow Riot For Zero Kanada is a classic to
me.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-21 04:08 [#01783550]
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q1 : Apart from Hendrix - what about Can, Faust, Neu! ...?
didn't they go post-rock too ?

q2: And since on TNT Tortoise crossed so many genre borders
- what IS post-rock first of all ? What IS post-rock ? What
IS it ?

-----------------------------------------------------------
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post-rock/trip-hop = genres i don't really like. cause
Portishead, Massive Attack and....that guy...ahh, Tricky -
their musics differ too much to throw them into one bag .
And even Those Two Portishead records differ from each
other.



 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-21 04:21 [#01783559]
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Mouse On Mars's Autoditacker is one of the
best post rock albums according to allmusic


Genre

Styles

* Electronica



* Indie Electronic
* Post-Rock/ Experimental
* Electronica
* Experimental Techno
* IDM
* Ambient Techno

????? ??????? ??? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????????? ???????


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-11-21 10:42 [#01783822]
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Two unrepresented albums I love that are post-rock enough
for me-

Ulan Bator- Ego Echo
Pram- Museum of Imaginary Animals


 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-21 11:08 [#01783847]
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I'm not sure if it's an "undisputable classic", but Jaga
Jazzist - What We Must is a great post-rock-y album.


 

offline ymenard on 2005-11-22 23:35 [#01785175]
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Below the Sea - Every frickin thing they have done. Another
Montreal group.

yay Montreal! Anyway is The Arcade Fire post-rock? It's
along the line of the Montreal line-up of post-rock groups
(check out their demo stuff), recorded in a studio by some
GYBE members.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 07:50 [#01785480]
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Look, post-rock isn't just any old rock music that has an
experimental edge to it.

It was a definate tendency during the 90's to push the
envelope in regards to what a guitar band could sound like.
After "alternative" bands like Nirvana had exploded into the
mainstream, it wasn't enough to sound a bit like the Pixies
anymore. Musicians like Tortoise and Trans Am were important
because they were moving far more into the leftfield than
other groups who were perhaps less imaginative. Bands like
My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth influenced post-rock but
don't fit into the tendency itself. The same way the New
York Dolls influenced punk, but were to too early too be
considered punk themselves. I think it was all over by the
time Radiohead released Kid A anyway.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 08:08 [#01785514]
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Oh, and Surrender to the Night by Trans Am is the best
posty-rocky album of them all!


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-11-23 08:15 [#01785527]
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anything that comes under the progressive trance genre.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 08:43 [#01785562]
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No.


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-23 21:39 [#01786350]
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very much so!

also
aix em klemm - self titled , stars of the lid and labradford
members collab album, sublime

do make say think - and yet and yet

rothko - a continual search for origins, not only is mark
the nicest man in music , he makes great music too

meanwhile back in communist russia - my elixir my poison,
indian ink , female fronted post rock, slated for being
pretentoius but i love em , pity they are no more tho

timonium -suspende animation, resist education, good stuff
previously unavailable until recently

keith fullerton whitman - playthroughs, hrvatski's post rock
alter ego

god is a astronaut - all is violent, all is bright , very
sigur ros style

bleomfontein -the longer now, canadian post rokcers from
windsor ontario , subdued post rock goodness



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-23 23:11 [#01786376]
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Wow, I wonder why post rock died on its arse then.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-24 12:35 [#01786686]
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sorry pa, this is why we go by GY!BE to avoid having to
spell the ridiculous name properly.


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-24 21:14 [#01786987]
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yeah cos tortoise are not revered in certain circles and
havent released anything in years, along with godspeed and
sigur ros, and my why did the kranky record label go
bust....


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2005-11-24 22:10 [#01786992]
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What about undisputable Pre-Rock classics?


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 04:46 [#01787075]
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Ha, yes :) Although should their first few releases be
credited to GYBE! or GY!BE...?

Its a hard life


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-25 04:55 [#01787085]
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"in years" ? you mean light years ? or are you from the
future ?


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-25 05:00 [#01787086]
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you don't get it.


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 12:48 [#01787433]
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i was being sarcastic...


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 13:39 [#01787467]
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Kranky hasn't gone bust...?


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 13:40 [#01787468]
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Oh I see. :)


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-25 13:51 [#01787472]
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I didn't mean "died on its arse" so much to mean "bankrupt",
more as "a cliched joke, yet another genre to make micro
variations on, much like IDM etc".


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-25 19:12 [#01787804]
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i remember when i used to argue that IDM was a relative
term... oh how fucking foolish i was.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-25 19:21 [#01787812]
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are spiritualized post rock? theyre good anyway


 

offline optimus prime on 2005-11-25 19:24 [#01787815]
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low - things we lost in the fire
mogwai - young team

if anyone can recommend me albums like these, please do
(i've already heard slint).


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 20:36 [#01787847]
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Yea Spiritualized are excellent.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-26 04:45 [#01787916]
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yeah yeah , i focused on the "bust" bit a bit too much


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2005-11-26 05:47 [#01787949]
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I dispute the term post-rock


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-26 14:20 [#01788204]
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it's about as disputable as most genre terms to be honest.
Who cares, it's really about categorising bands for the
convenience of commercial mediums. Reviewers need to be
able to call it something.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 02:40 [#01788330]
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i had no idea it's like that.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-27 04:26 [#01788336]
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post rock was coined by a reviewer...


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 05:18 [#01788343]
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as all genres were. it is not the musicians who sit and
think "what new genre could i invent...", it's journalists.
quite obvious, yeah.

but it shouldn't stop you from discussing music, right.


 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-27 06:19 [#01788350]
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"Despite a relatively small recorded output and little media
recognition, Bark Psychosis was one of the most innovative
artists of their era. From rather uninspired origins as a
teenaged Napalm Death cover band, the British group evolved
by leaps and bounds, moving from moody, lush pop to ambient
soundscapes to taut, atmospheric experimental music; their
work was so revolutionary, and so impossible to define, that
noted critic Simon Reynolds even found it necessary to
invent a new sub-genre -- "post-rock" -- simply to
categorize their vision."


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-11-27 06:54 [#01788356]
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no, it should stop flea disputing the term post rock though.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 11:49 [#01788455]
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hahah....maybe...


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-07-09 13:53 [#01934442]
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So, Simon Reynolds didn't rate the American post rockers.
(Tortoise, Trans Am, etc)
But he obviously liked Brits such as Bark Psychosis, Disco
Inferno, fellas like that....
Now I can't see Reynolds being overly patriotic, as he lives
in the States now anyway.

So what's his beef? Does he think that the yanks were
ripping us off? Or does he just not rate them?
"Millions Now Living"...and "Hex" have quite a similar
sound, so it makes me wonder.



 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2007-10-10 12:51 [#02130640]
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TNT, yes, I AM AGREE :D :D :D


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-10-10 14:18 [#02130706]
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didn't anyone mention seefeel? weren't they Post cock


 


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