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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:48 [#01783292]
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You just hate them because they're from Montreal, FASCIST! PROOF!
I used to think they were eons ahead of Sigur, but now I listen to Sigur far more. Godspeed are the more rewarding of the two though, ultimately, and the more inventive, if not the most immediate.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:51 [#01783294]
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Sorry, I really can't listen to these bands more then 2 minutes before getting bored. Nevertheless Sigur Ros is perhaps not bad as background music, but GYBE is absolutely pissing me off each time I hear them.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:54 [#01783296]
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I think I hate them near as much as Radiohead.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 13:58 [#01783298]
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Don't listen to them then.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-20 13:59 [#01783299]
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That's what I do, but please don't write their names on the messageboard.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 14:37 [#01783313]
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I can't listen to Sigur Ros as background music...
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-20 15:01 [#01783331]
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Godspeed You Black Emporer Godspeed You Black Emporer Godspeed You Black Emporer Godspeed You Black Emporer Godspeed You Black Emporer!!
Ha!
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-20 15:26 [#01783342]
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Emperor
Honestly.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-20 15:27 [#01783343]
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anyone care for labradford?
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-21 03:49 [#01783545]
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yes. they're lovely. wr is my favourite sir.
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pf
from Finland on 2005-11-21 03:59 [#01783546]
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Explosions in the sky, anything by them. And GY!BE's Albania
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staz
on 2005-11-21 04:04 [#01783548]
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Labradford is great.
Mogwai is terrible.
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staz
on 2005-11-21 04:07 [#01783549]
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Oh, and GY!BE - Slow Riot For Zero Kanada is a classic to me.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-21 04:08 [#01783550]
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q1 : Apart from Hendrix - what about Can, Faust, Neu! ...? didn't they go post-rock too ?
q2: And since on TNT Tortoise crossed so many genre borders - what IS post-rock first of all ? What IS post-rock ? What IS it ?
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post-rock/trip-hop = genres i don't really like. cause Portishead, Massive Attack and....that guy...ahh, Tricky - their musics differ too much to throw them into one bag . And even Those Two Portishead records differ from each other.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-21 04:21 [#01783559]
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Mouse On Mars's Autoditacker is one of the best post rock albums according to allmusic
Genre Styles
* Electronica
* Indie Electronic * Post-Rock/ Experimental * Electronica * Experimental Techno * IDM * Ambient Techno
????? ??????? ??? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????????? ???????
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-11-21 10:42 [#01783822]
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Two unrepresented albums I love that are post-rock enough for me-
Ulan Bator- Ego Echo Pram- Museum of Imaginary Animals
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-21 11:08 [#01783847]
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I'm not sure if it's an "undisputable classic", but Jaga Jazzist - What We Must is a great post-rock-y album.
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ymenard
on 2005-11-22 23:35 [#01785175]
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Below the Sea - Every frickin thing they have done. Another Montreal group.
yay Montreal! Anyway is The Arcade Fire post-rock? It's along the line of the Montreal line-up of post-rock groups (check out their demo stuff), recorded in a studio by some GYBE members.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 07:50 [#01785480]
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Look, post-rock isn't just any old rock music that has an experimental edge to it.
It was a definate tendency during the 90's to push the envelope in regards to what a guitar band could sound like. After "alternative" bands like Nirvana had exploded into the mainstream, it wasn't enough to sound a bit like the Pixies anymore. Musicians like Tortoise and Trans Am were important because they were moving far more into the leftfield than other groups who were perhaps less imaginative. Bands like My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth influenced post-rock but don't fit into the tendency itself. The same way the New York Dolls influenced punk, but were to too early too be considered punk themselves. I think it was all over by the time Radiohead released Kid A anyway.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 08:08 [#01785514]
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Oh, and Surrender to the Night by Trans Am is the best posty-rocky album of them all!
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-11-23 08:15 [#01785527]
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anything that comes under the progressive trance genre.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-11-23 08:43 [#01785562]
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No.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-23 21:39 [#01786350]
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very much so!
also aix em klemm - self titled , stars of the lid and labradford members collab album, sublime
do make say think - and yet and yet
rothko - a continual search for origins, not only is mark the nicest man in music , he makes great music too
meanwhile back in communist russia - my elixir my poison, indian ink , female fronted post rock, slated for being pretentoius but i love em , pity they are no more tho
timonium -suspende animation, resist education, good stuff previously unavailable until recently
keith fullerton whitman - playthroughs, hrvatski's post rock alter ego
god is a astronaut - all is violent, all is bright , very sigur ros style
bleomfontein -the longer now, canadian post rokcers from windsor ontario , subdued post rock goodness
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-23 23:11 [#01786376]
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Wow, I wonder why post rock died on its arse then.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-24 12:35 [#01786686]
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sorry pa, this is why we go by GY!BE to avoid having to spell the ridiculous name properly.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-24 21:14 [#01786987]
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yeah cos tortoise are not revered in certain circles and havent released anything in years, along with godspeed and sigur ros, and my why did the kranky record label go bust....
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-11-24 22:10 [#01786992]
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What about undisputable Pre-Rock classics?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 04:46 [#01787075]
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Ha, yes :) Although should their first few releases be credited to GYBE! or GY!BE...?
Its a hard life
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-25 04:55 [#01787085]
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"in years" ? you mean light years ? or are you from the future ?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-25 05:00 [#01787086]
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you don't get it.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 12:48 [#01787433]
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i was being sarcastic...
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 13:39 [#01787467]
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Kranky hasn't gone bust...?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 13:40 [#01787468]
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Oh I see. :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-25 13:51 [#01787472]
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I didn't mean "died on its arse" so much to mean "bankrupt", more as "a cliched joke, yet another genre to make micro variations on, much like IDM etc".
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-25 19:12 [#01787804]
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i remember when i used to argue that IDM was a relative term... oh how fucking foolish i was.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-25 19:21 [#01787812]
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are spiritualized post rock? theyre good anyway
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optimus prime
on 2005-11-25 19:24 [#01787815]
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low - things we lost in the fire mogwai - young team
if anyone can recommend me albums like these, please do (i've already heard slint).
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-25 20:36 [#01787847]
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Yea Spiritualized are excellent.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-26 04:45 [#01787916]
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yeah yeah , i focused on the "bust" bit a bit too much
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2005-11-26 05:47 [#01787949]
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I dispute the term post-rock
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-26 14:20 [#01788204]
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it's about as disputable as most genre terms to be honest. Who cares, it's really about categorising bands for the convenience of commercial mediums. Reviewers need to be able to call it something.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 02:40 [#01788330]
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i had no idea it's like that.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-27 04:26 [#01788336]
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post rock was coined by a reviewer...
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 05:18 [#01788343]
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as all genres were. it is not the musicians who sit and think "what new genre could i invent...", it's journalists. quite obvious, yeah.
but it shouldn't stop you from discussing music, right.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-27 06:19 [#01788350]
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"Despite a relatively small recorded output and little media recognition, Bark Psychosis was one of the most innovative artists of their era. From rather uninspired origins as a teenaged Napalm Death cover band, the British group evolved by leaps and bounds, moving from moody, lush pop to ambient soundscapes to taut, atmospheric experimental music; their work was so revolutionary, and so impossible to define, that noted critic Simon Reynolds even found it necessary to invent a new sub-genre -- "post-rock" -- simply to categorize their vision."
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-27 06:54 [#01788356]
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no, it should stop flea disputing the term post rock though.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 11:49 [#01788455]
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hahah....maybe...
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-09 13:53 [#01934442]
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So, Simon Reynolds didn't rate the American post rockers. (Tortoise, Trans Am, etc) But he obviously liked Brits such as Bark Psychosis, Disco Inferno, fellas like that....
Now I can't see Reynolds being overly patriotic, as he lives in the States now anyway.
So what's his beef? Does he think that the yanks were ripping us off? Or does he just not rate them?
"Millions Now Living"...and "Hex" have quite a similar sound, so it makes me wonder.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-10-10 12:51 [#02130640]
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TNT, yes, I AM AGREE :D :D :D
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-10 14:18 [#02130706]
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didn't anyone mention seefeel? weren't they Post cock
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