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people used to be open for good music, what changed in the past 20 years? who's responsible for it? is it because of the big labels? why do they promote 'boring' music so much instead of promoting something good (well, at least not stupid)? makes me want to cry this shit we have nowdays.. |
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it's always been the same. there is no change. |
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tch |
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boring music is a guaranteed sell. why are you mystified by this. it's all about money and greed. very simple |
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*guaranteed sale |
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i don't know, i was barely born 20 years ago... but the music industry is going to hell if it continues like that. |
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do you feel surrounded by boring music? REALLY? |
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well, for example punk and new wave were pretty massive in 80's and it was hardly boring stupid shit as the stuff that's on top of charts nowdays..even pop was much better in those days..it seems like people just don't care about what they listen to nowdays.. |
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punk is the worst crap ever! |
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record companies follow trends. back then that was the fad, so they got in on it and did their best to make as much money out of it while destroying the genre.. (i always thought it was pretty "boring stupid shit" but that's just my opinion. at least it had conviction.) |
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worse than stuff that people listen to today? and when you think punk, what band come to your mind? |
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old man's talk |
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they're trying to make money out of it nowdays it seems, i don't think that was the case back then..except for some overhyped bands probably. |
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enlighten me then youngster! |
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I have to agree with Mastah. It's just that stupid (pop)'music' became overwhelmingly visible. |
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just as bad as the stuff people listen to today. no particular bands come to mind. I have a friend that's into punk and he plays different punk things when we're at his place, and it all sucks. I don't know what they're called, though. |
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thing is, back in the day, you were "people," and if you were "people" nowadays, you'd be listening to the same crap. it's the same crap as always, all of it. there's no less focus on money making now, it's just that they're better at it. |
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What you are talking about wasn't THAT massive. The 80's will always be remembered for shitty music and shitty hairstyle. I don't think there has been much change when it comes to people's interest in music. Mainstream music captures the masses, and some of us listen to more alternative stuff. The "everything used to be better in the old days"-attitude, is really for oldies |
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who told you people is not open for good music anymore? your initial statement lacks of true basis |
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don't say that around r40f :S |
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but back then people were open for that kind of music which isn't the case nowdays. anything that doesn't come on mtv is out of their interest it seems.. |
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hahaha! I'll say it around anyone who's around, thankyouverymuch. |
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I don't see that there is a difference. |
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who are they? |
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it might have not been massive in norway but it sure was massive in more musically developed countries :) "Mainstream music captures the masses" exactly, but who decides what's mainstream..all im saying is that nowdays there's hardly a chance something a bit different could break through with the attitude young people have towards music.. |
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himself in the mirror |
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are you serious? norway must be all milk and honey regarding music :) |
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Big buisness rules the world now more than ever. We don't have the freedome to choose where we get things from because it is dictated to us. |
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not really.. we're overflooded with the same crap as everywhere else (I think.. I actually haven't heard anything of what's "hip" right now.. last I heard was Ravi & Dj Løv - tjseriåu (you don't want to know...) and then I killed my radio). Thing is, in twenty years, "they" will be making this post on the.. ravi.nu messageboard. things don't change much. |
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exactly, all i wonder is who put those people that decide on what is going to be mainstream in charge. they should all be shot. |
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Hah. You eastern-europe guys still look like you're in the 80s! "who decides what's mainstream" Doh! |
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ofcourse it is. it used to be more about music, fun, nowdays it's all about money. i don't know how familiar you are with the 80's but i'd strongly suggest you see a documentary or two and you'll get the picture. maybe :) |
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Indeed. So i think this is a reason on a musical scale why you have to respect labels like warp and such. even though they have started to have success, i think they managed to stay true to themselves. It's a breath of fresh air. |
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when was the last time you visited an east european country then? :) and what has that got to do with this questions?? |
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i think the underground current is alot stronger than people realise and there are ALOT of people listening to alot of good music, maybe not braindance stuff but still good music. Music is so diverse these days its kinda weakend the less comercial stuff. |
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that's just how you see it because.. well, you're biased due to actually liking the music that was pushed through people's ears back then. the industry's the same; it's been about money since the first large record company emerged. I think maybe it is you who should see other documentaries than the ones you've been watching.. "behind the scenes" documentaries, or at least not ones that angle towards glorifying the 80s. |
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Warp stayed true to themselves?? !!! Maximo Park I say no more. |
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Well, you started to talk about "musically developed countries":P But anyway, you are really talking like a grumpy, old guy. "it used to be more about music, fun," I bet the hip-hop or indie-kids think it's as funny nowadays as the punk-teens 25 yeras ago |
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Have you ever heard of pulp? Warp released some of their stuff. Maximo park are not as good, but they are similar in what they are trying to do. Didn't the creator of warp said they were always looking for a band like this? Makes you wonder why they let pulp go. Oh well. |
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"it's been about money since the first large record company emerged." right, but bands from the 80's im refering to here weren't part of that. as for warp, they got under one of the four major record companies now didn't they? we can expect more maximo park and crap like that.. |
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pulp.. I think I remember something actually, yes, but.. wasn't that britpop? |
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ehhh... what bands are you talking about, exactly? |
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yes, but i was sarcastic about that you silly viking! |
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No, it got caught up in that horrible zeitgeist. |
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but it was, wasn't it? where did Hegel come from suddenly? |
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pulp started of as a pop band. and brit pop was really good at it's beginings not crap like nowdays. im talking about rock bands from mid 7o's to mid 80's.. ofcourse they all wanted to make money, or at least to get money out of it but it wasn't money that they got into music for! which isn't the case nowdays.. |
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No, pulp had existed and released stuff when britpop was waiting to happen. Who are Hegel? |
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brit pop was easily the music we should be most ashamed of. what rock bands? you're saying you're talking about stuff that was mainstream, not connected with any large record companies or at least not in record companies that did it for the money. |
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Hegel formulated the zeitgeist thingie. |
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It's the fault of people who form an opinion too fast when they hear new music. |
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