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If one more person approaches me on a bus stop and asks if I'm listening to television static, or comments about how they "Cain't Bob dey hedz to dis shit"..... I'm going to impale them. Anyone else had similar experiences? |
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No Ma'am. |
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Lucky..... |
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Well, I guess its because I live in Ky. |
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Well, not necessarily idm-specific, but I was staying at a friend's house and her stepdad commented on some live zappa i was playing (echidna's arf) which is really be-boppy (fast scattish melodies). he said it wasn't music. I was shocked and thought he was joking and asked why, and he said, "If you can't hum it, it's not music" :/ |
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just about every person who comments on music im listening to says it sounds like a record is skipping lol. goes to show how their feeble brains cannot get into a rhythem anymore complex than 'in da club'. |
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Yeeeah, I've heard that shit before. They think if there arent lyrics about how their bitch left 'em, or some shitty Darude style sort of techno at least, then it must by craaazy!! Errr....--growl-- |
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I like the sound of a drill. But the majority of people doesn`t. |
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I've had people run in and turn off my stereo when I was listening to Autechre. After I cussed them out, they were all confused like "But wasnt it skipping? or scratched?! My eeeears were bleeding!" |
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Speaking of liking sounds.....I like the humming noise coming from outside air conditioning units. It puts me to sleep. |
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I dunno. I've had people say it was ''interesting music''... they weren't negative about it. My little cousins' faces lit up when they heard Confield, I made a topic about it here years ago. I remember in high school I was letting some jock use my discman, which had Kid A in it at that moment. He called it ''suicide music, if it was music at all''. I laughed at him and then he pretended to give me a Stone Cold Stunner. |
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whenever I hear the word confield I must listen to it. be back later. -rolls a joint- |
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Kids seem to like Autechre and Confeild. I've played Tri Repetae to put my baby cousin to sleep.... and it WORKED! Maybe thats what it was intended for. |
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exactly.. pop conditions people to be unable to connect with instrumental music, since they're so used to there being little or no variation in the music and therefore just listening to the lyrics. i myself am pretty much the exact opposite, i find vocals and lyrics quite distracting because the majority of the time they're written by poet-wannabes whose lyrics can ruin an otherwise perfect song. joni mitchell and neil young are certainly exceptions to this, especially joni. her lyrics are just 100% beauty. i'm fast reaching my 10-post-a-day limit, so i'll exit this thread gracefully while i still can.. |
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And it`s the same "undestanding-art" story all over again. A v a s t topic. |
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That wasnt the topic at all. I just wanna kick someone. |
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do you ever wonder this? k. parents buy that baby music to help them sleep, its simple and boring. if you ever had a kid, wouldnt you play it complex autechre-like stuff? I mean, that would probly allow the infant to develop millions more neural pathways in their brain as opposed to babies that get into that kiddy rhythem crap. think about it. |
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yes and wouldn't that increased brain activity keep them awake? but seriously, there's nothing better than complex music for kids. i'm ever grateful for growing up on jazz and classical moozak. *outta here* |
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You should not even bother. Most people think of music as of an empty space filler, that should be "safe" and flatter their shallow and undeveloped tastes. |
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no neverr. i doubt it's everr happened to you eitherr. who the fuck would say something like that? |
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Never had such an experience. I'm not whether this is a good idea, but I tend to keep the music I listen to a secret from everybody. Now to enlighten some Peanuts fans (courtesy of Pomme de Terre, 2003(?)): |
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Here's my theory for what its worth.. I just made a song which I found to be one of my best, both melody wise and beat wise, and I showed it enthusiastically to a friend of mine. He called it "boring crap." I was astounded, truly. But then again, I got a recommendation rom another friend, he told me to download Isolee's Wearemonster album. I listened to it and found it incredibly boring and simplistic. He said it is one of the most complex albums ever conceived, that its about 40 times more complex than afx's programming. You know, I just gave up on trying to figure out how people listen to music, because I've met so many different people who listens to so much different music. Me myself I just listen to whatever sounds good to me, without any prejudice regardless of genre. But I'll say this, some people are very closes minded about music, they seem unable to enjoy anything that doesn't fit their view of what good music is. THey seem unable to open their minds to other types of rhythms, melodies and arrangments and concepts. Which is sad for them. Not only that, but they call me elitist whenever I try to make them to listen to say confield. They say I like it just to seem intelligent or different. I'm so tired of peoples ignorance in general. |
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thats the idea. |
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I keep music I listen to secret from everyone too... of course I'm a complete recluse so that goes for everything else as well. A lot of music is very social in nature, maybe even as its primary purpose. I think "idm" can be some of the least social. The mentality of groups can be very different than a single brain. For example the thought that steven siegal movies are good is quite popular among people as a whole. But this same group of people (as a whole) will never make LP5 popular amongst them. bla oti jaeoi f Well look, I've been playing videogames and watching movies all day like usual so I unfortunately have NOTHING else to do than write this awful nonsense here so please bear with me. |
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I can say with 100 percent certainty that I personally honestly greatly prefer weird complex sounds (eg. 8000 bc by otto von schirach) to slower paced more rhythmic and simple music. This is entirely subjective and has nothing to do at all whatsoever with anything social such as trying to appear different or something. |
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aye - for me its not just a preference for a certain type of music, but just a love for music. and the more ideas i see in the music, the more i like it. |
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Do you deep down see making or listening to music a complete waste of time though? I do, especially after having read about memetics. Can't it be argued that any other activity such as reproducing or writing are equally pointless? But what does organizing sound accomplish? Listening to a song is a drug, an escape to an altered state of consciousness much like a movie. I lump this into the "surrogate activity" the unabomber discussed in his manifesto, ie. behavior we do in our current drastically altered environment to replace behavior we would have done naturally in our genetically evolved environment (which I long for I'm pretty sure. I think I could give up videogames and everything else for a normal natural life like it is supposed to be than this insanity). It's kind of hard to do anything worthwhile nowadays anyway... humans are an overpopulated pollution. The most worthwile thing I can do I am already doing which is sadly NOT doing something, ie not breeding. |
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yes, some people tend to confuse "music" and music they like. or "art" and art they like. and they think they're objective. it's annoying. "i like music! so if i don't like it, it's not music! it's crap!" gaaaah. i really can't blame anyone for not liking the music i like, it would be just as utterly stupid; but i wish people had an open mind enough and wouldn't be so self-centered and like "my taste = good; not my taste = crap evil satan suicide drug bad". |
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The few times other have heard weird music I played, they never reacted very strongly at all with one exception: the 2nd song on the rdj album. My dad heard it and was kind of struck and said something like "that's just... weird" And indeed it is a very exceptional shining example of weirdness. God damn that song is so so so so good. I would pay 200 dollars or more for that song alone if I knew it would be that good before I bought it and buying it was the only way to get it. |
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Listening to a song is a drug, an escape to an altered state of consciousness this is why i dont see listening to music, or for that matter anything you love doing, a waste of time - if you love doing it and you can lose yourself in it, its certainly not a waste of time. the experience i get is almost timeless, i forget that time exists -sometimes thats a great thing. |
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i would tend to disagree... |
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I find it hard to argue with that thought. I think I'm extremely deluded. Luckily I mostly stopped thinking though. |
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no, your mind is still fresh, give it some time, it will become as complacent as mine... |
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I believe there to be a group of individuals, who see the world on a deeper level. I believe that we exert violence on eachother because we were in a naturally evolved environment supposed to hunt other animals, we would need a barbaric, aggressive side to us, and this side has not died yet. I think humans hate the society they live in, the work, the capitalism, the level of control exerted by the government, I think we loathe every aspect of it. So we turn to drugs to escape our reality. So many people love the effect of drugs, they love to not feel like apart of society anymore, they love an altered state of consciousness. Same with movies and music, it's all about an altered state of consciousness. I believe humans have caged themselves in a society they don't want to live in. A society where free will is discarded for the better good of the race. But nobody really wants it. I think men belong out on a battlefield, hunting and killing, and women belong at home. We are to some degree, going back to our roots. We are exploring our sexuality, our drugs and our music. Women flaunt their goods, especially younger women, and men try to flaunt their masculinity, in a game of sex. Success is rated by the hotness of your girlfriend, the size of your penis and the clothes you wear. Much like other animals give respect to fellow animals. But is this really what humans want? I believe there to be 2 types of people; 1. The animalistic ones 2. The cogent ones The animalistic ones usually go back to the roots of humans, they worry about clothes, money, girls and other such animalistic things. The cogent ones are on the other side of the spectrum, they care about philosophy, music on a deeper level and science. Why is it that so many cogent people are reclusive? Why do they shy away from society? Animalistic people are competitive by nature, they automatically degrade the cogent ones, out of fear. They fear what they do not understand, and the only way they can cope with it is to degrade |
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them. Cogent people of course don't care, the "live and let live" philosophy fits well here. I believe the human race needs to discard the animalistic people, for the good of the race. They are leeches on a society that cogent people made. Or at least, stop leeching on everything that was made. Not to say cogent people do not care about dating, they know fully well the power of sexuality and bonding, but it doesn't inhibit their lives as much as animalistic behavior does. Animalistic people are completely oblivious to most things. The future lies with people who can further the human race, not with people who live on their instincts and emotions. |
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nice theory, but if only the world was so black and white... |
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My soul belongs on a barbeque grill. I think that's a beck lyric. I wonder when the last time I physically touched another human was. 5...10 years ago? god damn it's hot. I think I'm in hell already.. or heaven since I think they are falsely/oppositely advertised much like greenland was.. or propositions to vote on. I can't believe things actually happen in time. They certainly don't in whatever sub universe I inhabit anyway. The most bizarre thing could happen to me and would consider it equally strange to what already exists. If I looked in the mirror and saw I had a pig snout for example I wouldn't really be phased. I am like the sickliest possible being ever. I'm going to grow a clone of myself just so I can torture him; I know he would do the same for me. Here is a picture of my otherworldly self: |
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PhystPhukt, can we just clearr this up... yourr firrst post was a lie? |
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There arent many such people I speak of. |
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I dont listen to music outside my room, so dont fuck with my head |
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If you think gmork is evil you should see his baby eating mother. This is seriously the scarriest picture I have ever seen. I don't see any fraction of this picture comical; it is 180% scary: |
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I haven't rread one post by w M w in this thrread, orr any otherr thrread forr that matterr. |
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i love w M w marry me please |
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People who hate IDM are just not intalligant enouf |
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I found this read interesting. Everything is such an insanely complex mess. But one argument is that everything evolves together, therefore at every step creatures were in a similar predicament given that they were competing with things equally sophisticated as themselves (relative to one another). I bet what we live in right now is extremely simple and carefree compared to what it will become. |
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PhystPhukt why do you look so fucking smug. do you have any friends here is that really you. |
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yes it's her... she's not smug, she's a good person. anus: why do you presume she's lying? You must only know intelligent people in the 'real world,' or rarely show others the IDM you listen to, because most of the people I show electronica to react in essentially the same way. |
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nigel and i and keen on her |
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I'm glad we're so much better than those peasants, with our IDM and whatnot. |
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