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I must say that Warp/Rephlex/Planet-Mu etc. raves here in London have been perfect. The people are always polite, nobody cares how you dance (or if you attempt to dance but look like an utter cock) and there's no feeling of needing to be "cool" or "fashionable"...if you get me. It's simply about enjoying the music. In contrast, I've been to drum'n'bass events (and some other festivals) and it's completely different-you feel more pressured and less confident to simply enjoying yourself. Infact, the last thing at fabric was full of chavs who gave me and my friends weird looks. Anyone know what I mean? |
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totally. people are cunts. |
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err yeah, although I can honestly say that I've never felt self concious in a club, maybe it's the drugs. the reason I don't enjoy drum n bass clubs as much as I might are the bloody mcs and rewinds. |
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Yes, sadly DnB gigs seem to be less and less friendly. I know DnB has always been seen as the more edgy, violent side of electronic music, but I must admit a lot of recent nights I've been at were full of filthy chavsters. It wasn't until I went to a DnB night at a small venue up in Scotland and everyone was so nice (it was just like a warp night/atp/etc.) that I realised what asses a lot of the DnB crowd are. Don't get me wrong, I love DnB and IMO it's some of the best club music. Just that a lot of people into it need to remove the stick from their colons ;-) |
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i know perfectly well what you mean..i never go to any techno, drumnbass, house, trance, ..raves because i don't like those people..electronica scene is something completly different though, people there are always awesome! |
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Yes, a hell of a lot of DnB MCs are gash. Even when they're good it doesn't add a lot for me. |
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Once I was out on Boxing day and the mc wouldn't shut up about "working off that Xmas turkey", to say it spoilt it would be an understatement. |
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I wonder why DnB sometimes attracts a really unfriendly crowd while electronica doesn't? I've yet to go to an electronica gig where there's been any trouble or unfriendlyness at all. I wonder what a garage event is like! Anyone been to a So Solid Crew gig or anything like that? |
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u know how we do |
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I have been to some electronica gigs that had a heavy "industry" presence where the atmosphere could be construed as a little snobbish though not exactly unfriendly. |
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squarepusher in dublin drew the aggressive types... moslty cos he didn't come on for 40 minutes. i thought it was a hoot. but generally... electronica is always cool. Electro gigs i think are THE friendliest... the cheeze seems to appease! |
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Neve experienced snobbery. Although even that would be better then theatening looking teens who look like they want to bash your lights out for being remotely different. |
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I've been to both.. you never know what you are gonna get I guess. I think it might depend on what types of drugs are being supplied. |
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This was going back quite a few years, I think the "elitist" element of electronica isn't as apparant as it once was. And of course snobbery is always prefereable to the threat of violence, which unfortunately seems to prevail in many London venues, I try to avoid "normal" pubs and clubs whenever I can to be honest. |
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I quit going to events a few years ago specifically for this reason everyone who is their is only looking for a fuck, and all I want to do is listen to music and dance like a fool people don't like that... "it's just not like it was back in the day" |
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Yeah electronica gigs are always fun cause the people are in a better mindset. Where else would you trade a joint for a turn with the head massager? I don't really understand why people are so different at drum & bass nights because you definetly have to dance like a retard to drum & bass, but people still try to look cool. If other people aren't going for it then I can't. The difference is whether people come because they like the music or because they need something to do. You wouldn't get many people who come out of the pub and think 'maybe we should check out that electronica gig'; people there are mostly people who are big into the scene. And the people at proper raves are even better, usually you have to make quite an effort to get there so everyone just wants to have a good time. |
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You're talking about normal pubs and clubs specifically here, right? I'd agree with you there. But the raves I enjoy (of electronica) are still about the music and having fun, which is why I like them. |
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Yeah, My Girlfriend is German and whenever I go to a bar over there I feel completely at ease (even in Dresden where there is a bit of an anti-British Vibe), but when she visits me it's a completely different story, I'd never take her to my "local" put it that way, the beer sucks over here too:). |
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I totally agree. It was shocking how much more friendly bars/clubs and stuff were when I went to Hungary (btw, there's some wicked Hungarian artists that need to be checked out!) I'm looking forward to the next event at Electrowerkz. |
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I also took some foreign girl friends (1 German, 1 Israeli) to Turnmills and they were less than impressed, spending most of the time complaining about everything from the way they were treated to the "wack" music. And to be honest I was inclined to agree with them. |
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The Glade is the benchmark for everything everywhere Anyone who went last year will know exactly what I mean, it was such a happy place to be |
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To be honest these days I much prefer staying in and listening to music with friends than going out, the sound is normally better, you can smoke what and when you like, you don't need to qeue for ages to take a piss and you can listen to whatever you want. Front Room clubs are the way forward. |
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she's right you know |
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I wish I knew when this years is going to be so I can book my holidays off =o( |
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the total silence from Glade is a little bit weird but I guess I didn't buy a ticket until April last year anyway |
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i went to turnmills the weekend before last... it was shithouse the music was quite quiet for some reason, not to mentioned boring and repetitive. it was nice that the place had a few seats around, but the actual dancing areas were tiny and err, stupid. we arrived there at 3am, only went to turnmills because there was still a fucking massive queue going around the corner at fabric. and regarding the treatment...yeah the staff there are cuntish, i've seen that mentioned before and they were fucking unfriendly when we got there too. |
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elektrowerkz next friday;vibert , plaid , ceephax , skam room , b12... |
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Yeah I mostly stick to the scheduled act nights. I like the feeling of going to a snares gig or whatever and just blending in and talkin to fans, this kind of stuff attracts people really into music. And you're right about the not caring thing... despite IDM being snobby as fuck, noone gives a shit about what you're wearing. My favourite venue always has the biggest range of punks, cyber goths, trendies and those who can't be arsed, and its great. Can't wait for autechre. That should be an interesting vibe. I've got a feeling everyone will look the same though. |
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what uniform? |
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south african raves usually have a friendly atmosphere. though i must add the dnb scene here is turning into a kindergarden. |
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Hmm. Very casual. T shirt and jeans, variety of trendy but unconventional jackets. 20 something. Subtle but stylish black rimmed glasses. Very white. Warp t shirts maybe? STUDENTY |
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Yeah, I'll be at the Autechre gig in London. Anyone else going to that? |
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yep |
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I reckon a LOT of uk members will be going to these gigs :D I think I'll be at the Manchester one. |
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I'm going to the London one too! |
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Shame I don't really know anyone here, it could be a nice meetup. |
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