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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 14:01 [#01355866]
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I am 28, which means I am older than 90% of people here
so I should have more experience in life and all that... but I dont
but above all what I see is how much ignorant I am compared to most of you, being most of you a lot younger than me
I know nothing about music compared to people here
but I notice my ignorance when it comes to literature, cinema, art in general (painting, sculpture, graphic design...) and of course in all the music making related things
I only know about architecture, and not really much
I am an ignorant... and I am tired of that
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 14:01 [#01355868]
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I notice this cos I see that most of the times I have nothing interesting to add to a thread
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-10-07 14:06 [#01355869]
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dont be fooled.
people look more intellegent then they are... for all you know, these people ONLY know about music, and nothing else.
see? That looked kind of intellegent, but Im an idiot.
proof.
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 14:07 [#01355870]
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about music all I know are the tipical warp big names... thats about it
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 14:08 [#01355871]
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You're not ignorant. You're depressed.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-10-07 14:08 [#01355872]
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so?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-07 14:10 [#01355873]
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I feel a lot like that. But I did feel a bit better when I just admitted to myself that I am a bit stupid. I used to read books and books, i used to study art, i loved fim... now I don't give a toss, I've lost interest. I blame the internet. Suddenly you realise everyone's got their own miserable opinion about everything, noone can agree on a simple point (look at Elusive managing to confuse everyone as to what binary is, one of the simplest things in the universe), and there's just loads of stuff out there and at the end of the day none of it makes any difference or answers any of the fundamental questions like "What the fuck are we doing here?". So I just drink and eek out a living as the world's 13678th worst designer trying not to worry about being of no use to mankind whatsoever.
Architecture isn't easy Nachito, you don't get to be an architect if you're a dullard.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-07 14:15 [#01355874]
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nobody else matters!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 14:16 [#01355875]
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we're all just monoid's duplicate accounts anyways.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 14:22 [#01355876]
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Nacmat = Great.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-07 14:23 [#01355877]
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I know what you mean nachivator, there's a frighteningly large amount of creativity out there, and i'll bet not one of us will ever come across even 0.01% of it. It's frustrating. I guess the only thing to do is read up, go to galleries, buy the wire, go to independent cinemas, all that krazy krap. It's tiring but inspiring.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-10-07 14:23 [#01355878]
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Nacmat = Great.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-07 14:26 [#01355879]
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your english improved over the last three years. unlike woofers, considering the last poll:)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-07 14:34 [#01355883]
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Greatmat!
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-07 14:36 [#01355884]
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Hahahaha, best geek-pun ever.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-07 14:48 [#01355885]
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the only thing i know a lot about is music, but i cant write music for the life of me, i am no artist, i am more of a critic than artist, actually i know a lot about computers and stuff too, so i lied but, i know absolutely nothing about architecture so there you go, i am ingorant in that respect, we are all are about something. no one knows everything
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-10-07 14:48 [#01355886]
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...stop whining and get some books.
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uzim
on 2004-10-07 14:49 [#01355887]
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it's not like you were poor, ugly or stupid... if you think you're ignorant you can always learn! : )
it takes time, sure, but if you're interested enough, you won't notice the time. there are many ways to learn, search the internet, buy records or books, go to museums etc...
the only problems could be lazyness (i'm not sure what you can do about that...), lack of time (but seeing the number of posts you have here, you must have enough time ^^) and lack of interest (if you're not interested, just quit it and try something else?).
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uzim
on 2004-10-07 14:54 [#01355890]
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well, actually there can be a fourth problem: how to get the stuff if you can't find/afford it, culture isn't free and everything isn't so easily downloadable : /
for example i lack a lot of cinematographic culture but i don't feel like paying 25€ per dvd for every movie i'd like to see but haven't seen before and not being sure i would like it... and every movie doesn't air all the time on tv, plus i lack disk space for divx's... so i privilegiate music
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-10-07 14:54 [#01355892]
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take of your cap QUICK!!! , that will help
no seriously: i dont no shit either
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uzim
on 2004-10-07 14:54 [#01355894]
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if i really wanted to get a cinematographic culture, i think i could though. i guess i'm lazy too.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-07 15:23 [#01355923]
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I am tremendously ignorant in terms of modern history mostly due to the fact that I have changed educational systems thrice. I want to correct this.
Don't worry about it nacho. I'm jealous as hell of your architectural knowledge. I would have loved to study it...
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 15:29 [#01355932]
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things I want to do and I am going to do:
read more books: I read one or two a year... I have to read one a month at least
read the newspaper: not only the sports section
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-07 15:33 [#01355938]
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last time I read a book that didn't have anything to do with computer science (my field) was probably over 4 years ago. Now that I have more time (finished studying) I'm going to read a lot, especially the french classics which I have neglected for longer than I care to think....
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 15:34 [#01355940]
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that's good. and spend less time in front of a computer screen, maybe?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-07 15:39 [#01355947]
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You're studying architecture, some of us are doing nothing of importance, not doing anything that interesting I'm not. You probably don't have time to accumulate as much knowledge as some some shut ins that know a lot of obscure, worthless noise rock acts! And it doesn't matter anyway, nothing really matters except what you're doing, not what you're not doing.Fuck it, you've got many decades ahead to ''catch up'', if you feel you need to. But there's no need, ignorance is one of the last words I associate with you.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-07 15:41 [#01355950]
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that made me laugh :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 15:41 [#01355951]
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Just because you don't think you read as much as other people doesn't make you lesser. You should do what you feel comfortable with. Not what you feel is expected to be part of a group. You know you're well repsected here whether you read the same books or know as much as other people. Hell you far surpass me in AFX and æ knowledge mate.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 15:47 [#01355954]
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Admit you aren't as good as me, then realise nobody is, which means you are no better or worse than anyone other than me, which you are worse than. The path to enlightenment is simple logic.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:01 [#01355962]
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i don't think it's a good idea to tell nacmat he's not ignorant if he really is. none of us can actually know how ignorant he is.
nacmat, only u (on here) can know whether you really are ignorant or if you're just having a blue time and thinking misguidedly. but in case you're really ignorant (no matter how much/few): 1st it's a good thing that u know it. 2nd you can either learn, or accept your ignorance. nobody's perfect. if you lack knowledge there's necessarily things you're better than most people at.
then again i don't know u at all.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:07 [#01355964]
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Everybody (except me) is ignorant in some area or another. It is impossible to know everything (unless you are me). 99% of the so called most intelligent people in the world are also 78.4% of the best blaggers and liars.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:16 [#01355975]
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knowledge does not equal intelligence
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:16 [#01355976]
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and attempted profound statements do not equal wisdom.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:16 [#01355977]
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knowledge & intelligence are not the same
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 16:18 [#01355978]
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ok I will stop whining now
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 16:18 [#01355979]
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but they help eachother
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:19 [#01355980]
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i reloaded the page before i submitted that second post in order to be sure it hadn't been taken into account!!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:19 [#01355981]
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nacmat if I thought you were ignorant I would tell you. I would treat you like a man and pull no punches. You WOULD BE TOLD.
However you display a maturity and level of wisdom befitting your age.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:21 [#01355983]
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and attempted profound statements do not equal wisdom.you're the one attempting ;)
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 16:23 [#01355986]
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well... lets see how things evolve in the next years... life is short like my dick
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sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 16:24 [#01355988]
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If people look more intelligent than they actually are to you, that means your powers of perception are faulty. period. end.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-07 16:50 [#01356030]
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i guess the person who cares most about the size of your dick is you... so u better not care! :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 16:52 [#01356035]
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that was heartless, just because he hasn't got a girlfriend at the moment. I am sure many people care about the size of his dick.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 16:53 [#01356040]
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Intelligence is only skin deep.
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sneakattack
on 2004-10-07 16:54 [#01356041]
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My intelligence is non-existant when I look at the skin around campus..
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-07 16:56 [#01356045]
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i wouldn't consider any type of "music knowledge" really... eh, well .. it's subjective, so don't let "ignorance" on that get you down. heh
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nacmat
on 2004-10-07 17:06 [#01356088]
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l º l
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-07 17:08 [#01356095]
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:D
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-07 17:09 [#01356099]
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Exactly, a lack of basic grammar never stopped you from being a big shot.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-07 17:10 [#01356103]
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hahaha that got me laughing.
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