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With so much going on in the world with terrorism and Muslim connections, what is your view on the Muslim religion? |
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*sits back and watches the thread getting filled with nonsense* |
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I have no problem with it. I have a problem with the extremists. |
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i agree |
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ive met one musilim in my life- fortunately, weve met at the hotel where i was working as a nigh porter. the guy was called Rashid, and his father, Burhaib, was the owner of the hotel. anyway, he was sometimes chatting with me about muslim religion and stuff at nights- ive had nothing to do after midnight, he, as a rich son of rich father, havent got anything to do also. he said many interesting things, that has opened my eyes a bit - for instance that TV and generally, media, are one sided in middle east issues - as country Izrael was formed by western goverments, we cant have objective look on the matters that are happening there - at least not objective if we wil stay here, in europe. once i asked "why all these muslim want to kill all non-muslims", and i expected to hear that "our religion blah blah blah". but he said simply "its not that Koran says that we should kill. its just the peole who likes to make false picture of what is written in this book, and use this picture for their own purposes. remember that people also killed for christ- like crusaiders in medieval, burnin people for science, etc.". i dunno if all muslims are like this onr guy, but if they would be, the world would be better i think. |
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i feel the same about islaam as i do about christianity. however, i know relatively little about christianity and even less about islaam. |
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I would say a lot of Muslims are like that. But the ones taht get the media coverage are the fucking crackpots. Gwely: ROCK ON! |
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yeah, the point is "media coverage", we will never know the right ones, unless we meet them personally. Rashind gave me Koran book, i havent read it yet, but will do. someday. and loads of their rituals are strange to me - like, for exapmle, in middle east, the women must have cover the body +face with a "robe". thats not everything- if the wife and husband are walking by the street, the wife must be allways 5 steps in front of the husband, so he could control whats she's doing when she's walking. weeird. and stupid, at least for me. |
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Everything has its extremist faction... Islam has brought the western world many advances. |
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Robby Racist is not only scared of the religion, but also the word. in fact, Robby Racist would avoid all the letters in the word "islam" if he actually could read and/or write. |
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Islam as with most religions is all about the interpretation. In essance the Koran is very similar to the Old Testiment or The Tankah in it's value system and as with these scriptures people have taken good teachings and added there own spin on things. I have read The Koran and I would recomend doing so to get your own insight to Islam. |
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i wonder how many muslim posts on thid mb - i believe there are some. |
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anyone who assumes that all muslims are like the crackpots you see on tv are idiots... so yeah, I have nothing against muslims, or the islamic religion... but I hate extremists! |
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I have to agree that the media controls our judgement. However, if we are saying that because everything we see about Muslim's from the media makes what we see from the media and the opinions we make from what we see invalid. Then is every opinion of ours which is formulated by the media invalid? |
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I'm doing a course called Religion and Popular Music this semester... really has nothing to do with this thread, except for the religion thing, and I doubt there will be much islamic stuff talked about... but it should be a cool course! :) |
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I like the part of the qu'ran that says jesus wasn't crucified |
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Also, why do you think the media would want us to have negative feelings towards Muslims? |
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persian women are very beautiful. |
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The problem is definetly the radicals, but how many radicals are in the middle east? Westerners equate radical with obscure. They want there countries to be completely islam. With no ties or dealings with western nations. Unfortunately they are sitting on the worlds econimic life blood. |
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" have to agree that the media controls our judgement." it doesn't. you can let it control you. "Then is every opinion of ours which is formulated by the media invalid?" no. just because some part is bullshit, doesn't mean all of it is. it does however mean that you should try and make up your own mind, using several different media sources. it's not foolproof, but it's a start. |
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Robby Racist doesn't agrees with me, btw. He had someone read it to him from the internet. |
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I mean, he DOES agree with me. now Robby is all confused. he is now trying to kill the internet. I can only say: good luck, Robby! |
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I don't know why the french govt. banned headscarves. Seems like a big mistake to me. |
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(in schools) |
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How many people posting in this thread have actually read the Qur'an? |
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Nope... I read bits of the bible, but it didn't seem very plausable. |
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I make it a point to know the juicy bits in the bible - it's fun to throw a difficult bit in a christian's face and watch him squirm and evade and do the old "well, how do we know anything for sure, and God made such a beautiful world for us to enjoy, and LOOK THAT SQUIRREL'S WEARING A HAT" :: runs away :: |
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No mention of dinosaurs in the bible... you'd think they'd mention something like that... (Bill Hicks again) |
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you're scared of squirrels wearing hats too..!? |
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"How many people posting in this thread have actually read the Qur'an?" i haven't yet...i'd like to one day though...i even have a copy somewhere... |
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They could be Oddjob hats with razor brims! |
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I like the part where Mohammed unleashes his flying monkeys on the infidels! |
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did you read it in arab? or plain english? |
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I riffled through it in English on tha intarweb just after 911 - barely remember any of it. I recall one nice bit that seemed to say it was okay for different peoples to have different beliefs. I should get a hard copy - I always retain printed info better than something on the screen. |
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muslim reliegion is a religion.... so its not my thing... I cant understand how people can believe in other life |
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huh...i can hardly make myself to read full page on web...but this one's like 800 pages, i mean, omg. i have a book, but i think it's in serbian, or croatian (it's all the same to me)...i think i'll give it a chance one day. nacmat, you don't have to belive in afterlife to live by their rules...i mean, im sure there are plenty of interesting things to find in a religion...especially one as old as islam. and compared to christianity i think islam is much more user friendly. |
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when i say 800 i mean 2000 ofcourse. |
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omg...it's definitely the heaviest book in collection. |
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in MY collection* and, btw, it looks really confusing on that site...i'd go crazy after two pages, surely... |
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Are you sure that isn't a Baghdad phone book? The contents are pretty much the same. |
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no no no, wait wait wait. if theres no another life, whats the purposeof this one ? so you were created only to live this single one ? bollocks. |
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if it's the phone book, it's the most beautiful phone book i have ever seen. but then again, those iraqis are so loaded it wouldn't come as a surprise. |
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There is no "Muslim Religion" singular, just as there is no Christianity singular or Buddhism singular or Judaism singular or any other religion. ALL religious traditions are splint into innumerable factions all at war with each other over the "true" version of said religion. All texts, religious texts especially, cannot be simply read - they have to be interpreted. |
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you're wasted here. really. |
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How can someone be so sure there isn't another life. When they are presently living a life. Isn't that a miracle in itself? |
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the muslim religion is dumb |
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I don't want to hear about the Christian crusades. Like it's some excuse. That shit was a thousand years ago. That doesn't validate shit that happened yesterday. This is the future for fuck sakes. Act like it. |
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there can be rules without religion there can be culture and customs without religion though its true that religion has brought lots of culture to these days throughout history... but I was talking more in the religious meaning in the cultural meaning: I love muslim culture... and the architecture is incredible |
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Who said life had to have a purpose? |
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