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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:12 [#01268130]
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i mean artists you couldn't say they belong to any
particular genre/scene...keeping more for themselves.

people like:
-tricky
-tom waits
-nice cave
-bjork

please name as many as you can...thanks :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:13 [#01268131]
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nice cave=nick cave ohh


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-06 16:15 [#01268134]
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steve reich
philip glass
ryuchi ikeda



 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:16 [#01268137]
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Bon Jovi
Ac dc
Whitesnake
Poison
Venom
Judas Priest
Chesney Hawks



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-07-06 16:17 [#01268138]
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wtf


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-06 16:17 [#01268139]
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What?


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-07-06 16:18 [#01268142]
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hanson


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:18 [#01268143]
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Carlotte Church and Shawadiwadi

I think the list is pretty much exhausted now


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:18 [#01268144]
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YOU and your ''deliberate mistakes!'' ArrrrrrrR

I'd say Harry Nilsson. He has his own genre... ''Nilsson''.
Or ''Harry'', if you're a good friend of his. He's the only
artist that can compete with The Beatles for my love.

I don't know where you'd put Frank Zappa, either... or David
Tibet, Al Kooper, a ton of other people. But only Harry
deserves his own genre. The others are all predictable in
their weirdness.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2004-07-06 16:18 [#01268145]
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tolstoyed doesn't seem to fit in


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:22 [#01268150]
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i know i know...it hapens a lot, since i bought a b lack
keyboard, and i can't see it well in the dark.

never heard of this nilsson guy...is he still active?


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:23 [#01268152]
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Bucks Fizz (I thought I had them all)


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-07-06 16:25 [#01268156]
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aqua


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:27 [#01268159]
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haha, this is going to be tougher than i thought...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:32 [#01268164]
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That ''Nilsson guy'' is dead, since '94... :_-( But Nilsson
is everywhere. He's all around us, all the time.

He is/was some sort of bizarre pop genius, John Lennon's
best friend and the Beatles' favorite artist in the mid
'60s.

Anyway, I consider him to ''not fit in anywhere'' because
his music has more personality and pizazz than anything,
ever. Totally unpretentious, had nothing to prove to critics
or fellow artists, a true individual. You have to like
pre-rock and roll music styles and wimpy chamber pop based
around strings, pianos, and acoustic guitars, though.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-06 16:33 [#01268167]
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Aphex Twin


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-06 16:34 [#01268168]
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my post wasnt a joke


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:34 [#01268169]
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excellent. what album should i start with?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:36 [#01268174]
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i know...i know reich and glass, and they're both great, but
not quite what i had in mind.
thank you though!


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 16:37 [#01268175]
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BoC



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:39 [#01268180]
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considered a part of "idm" scene...same goes for
squarepusher...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:41 [#01268184]
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umm, what the hell?? where's the 1st part of my reply??

the missing first part: yeah, close to what i had in mind,
although they are considered...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-06 16:44 [#01268188]
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Hmmm... I think the best way to start with Nilsson is a
compilation, because-

1- he was eclectic and one album can only show 2% of what
he's capable of
2- he had supreme pop sensibility, without sacrificing art.
So his ''greatest hits'' packages are both instantly
accessible and irresponsibly wicked.

A good one was recently released, picture down below.
Missing too much great music, but close enough. My favorite
album is Aerial Ballet, though.

See if you like these songs-
One, Together, Spaceman, Cuddly Toy, Everybody's Talkin',
Mournin' Glory Story, Without You, Without Her, Think About
Your Troubles, Me and My Arrow, Good Old Desk.

I will always pimp Harry like mad, my love for him is so
deep.


Attached picture

 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 16:45 [#01268190]
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You can put an artist into any scene you feel like.
I know shitloads of people who listen to BoC and don't have
a clue what IDM is.



 

offline uzim on 2004-07-06 16:45 [#01268192]
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i might be wrong, but:

Acid Mothers Temple
Aphex Twin
The Books
Boredoms
Captain Beefheart & his Magic Band
Cocteau Twins
Coil
Current 93
Einstürzende Neubauten
Fantômas
Future Sound Of London
Hoahio
Isis
Melt-Banana
Mr. Bungle
Naftule's Dream
Nurse With Wound
OOIOO
Queen Adreena
The Residents
Tool
The Young Gods
Frank Zappa
John Zorn
...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:52 [#01268203]
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huA! thank's a bunch...i'll check some of those tunes asap!
(as soon as they download heh).

uzim, thank you...big list there - as usual i don't know
like a 1/3 of those people, will check them out though.
and afx, cocteau twins, coil, fantomas, melt banana, mr.
bungle, tool and zorn kind of all fit in various scenes
imo...hmm, could be im wrong :) they're all great artists
though (except for coil who i don't like much :)


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-06 16:54 [#01268204]
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john zorn is jazz artists, its just hes like to freestyle
all the time.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 16:55 [#01268207]
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well, he has various projects, so he could fit in many
scenes :)
above all he's a great improvisor.


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-07-06 17:00 [#01268214]
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i see more purpose in a ninja thread


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-07-06 17:05 [#01268219]
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its easy to pigeon hole every artist

wtf



 

offline wimp on 2004-07-06 17:06 [#01268221]
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Where would you put Grand Buffet?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 17:07 [#01268222]
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ok. please do it for tricky :)


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-07-06 17:13 [#01268230]
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tricky fits in coffee makers


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 17:16 [#01268233]
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haha...i bet ma would love to have him back though.


 

offline uzim on 2004-07-06 17:29 [#01268249]
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i thought Tricky was trip-hop, but i must be wrong then ^^
(or i've read he's been classified as trip-hop, then did
everything to get this label off him....)

which ones do you not know tolstoyed?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 17:46 [#01268273]
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hmm, is there such thing as trip hop? :)

the ones i don't know (yet):
Acid Mothers Temple
Captain Beefheart & his Magic Band
Current 93
Hoahio
Isis
Naftule's Dream
Nurse With Wound
OOIOO
Queen Adreena
The Residents

haha, that's almost half.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 17:49 [#01268280]
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Tricky is ex Massive who are ex Wildbunch. So as far as his
"scene" is concerned he has roots in oldschool hip-hop into
Trip-Hop to Trip-Hop-Pop.

My point is you should have asked which artists sound the
most unique. Because generally when people listen to
something, the first thing they try to do is classify it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 17:52 [#01268287]
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"Because generally when people listen to
something, the first thing they try to do is classify it."

exactly, that is why im looking for "unclassifiable" artists
:)

you gave a pretty good description of tricky's music...i'd
add rock and punk to that...but you can't say he belongs to
a certain genre/scene...


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 17:57 [#01268295]
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You cant say that anyone does. I'm thinking at the most base
level here.

BoC have said in interviews that they don't listen to a
whole lot of modern electronic music, but prefer a wide
variety of stuff from Devo to The Incredible String Band.
They hardly ever play live or associate with anyone from the
IDM scene except AE, because they reccomended them to Skam.
So in that sense, its not so easy just to toss them into the
IDM category.



 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 17:57 [#01268298]
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IDM, of course, isn't exactly a well defined category to
begin with either.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-06 17:59 [#01268304]
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In wrap up: You can classify just about anything in
your head, but another person could classify the same thing
as belonging to a completely different category.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 18:08 [#01268345]
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well, we don't agree on this one then :)

as for boc...they could have signed for another label, not
warp related or something, that would sure make them look
more independent.


 

offline uzim on 2004-07-06 18:25 [#01268425]
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Acid Mothers Temple: experimental-psychedelic loopy
music.

Captain Beefheart & his Magic Band: connexions with
Frank Zappa but much more difficult music, very tiring and
whatever-sounding at first listens (some tracks are, like,
the guy sings nonsense with no instruments on background -
or a band knowing how to play, but making big
random-sounding stuff instead, with the singer doing the
same, 75% talking 25% singing 50% synchronized 50%
non-synchronized with the rest of the music). in fact, i
haven't got into it completely yet, but his album "Trout
Mask Replica" is considered to be either a masterpiece.

Current 93: somewhat experimental-folk (!) stuff...
it's pretty good, really; just not the kind of stuff i'd
listen to everyday.

Hoahio: in-between pop, traditional japanese music
and experimental.

Isis: actually this could be classified into metal...
but i have "Oceanic", and it is full of long beautiful
instrumentals, and some tracks like 'Weight' sound like
anything but usual metal music... (hm, if i put Isis, i
should have put Opeth too!! Opeth is among my favourite
bands...)


 

offline uzim on 2004-07-06 18:25 [#01268427]
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Naftule's Dream: a blend of klezmer (jewish music),
jazz and rock...

Nurse With Wound: "surrealist" music. some sound
collages, dark ambient, indescriptible stuff. not always
easy! connexions with Coil, but different (you can like one
and not the other)...

OOIOO: a side-project by Yoshimi P-We of Boredoms,
all-female quartet. half-experimental,
half-sunny-easy-poplike music perhaps.

Queen Adreena: i guess you could say it's rock, but
almost everything could be classified into "rock"... violent
and beautiful, and the female singer has a beautiful voice
(Katie Jane Garside) : )

The Residents: these guys make music since 30 years
now, and no one knows who they are because they're always
dressed as eyeballs in costume. they make conceptual albums
about eskimo life, 1-minute-long songs only, completely
fucked-up nazi-styled rock'n'roll classics, a "mole trilogy"
composed of 6 parts and only three released (not the three
first ones though), etc. some sound a bit like fucked-up
cartoon music.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-06 18:30 [#01268434]
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ohh, thanks a lot uzim! man, i bet most of these are very
abstract...i'll check them out though (if i can find them on
soulseek :)

atm im very interested in hearing "Hoahio" and "Queen
Adreena".

will check! cheers!


 

offline uzim on 2004-07-06 18:33 [#01268441]
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you're welcome! ^^

Queen Adreena has two albums, which are pretty different
from each other. i only have "Taxidermy", the first - but i
would definitely recommend it.


 

offline morge from United Kingdom on 2004-07-07 02:14 [#01268624]
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sigur ros are unclassifiable. in a sense.

primal scream's albums are all completely different.

i can't think of any others straight away, but I agree with
tolstoyed about tricky and with uzim about a couple of those
(the ones that I've heard of!)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-07 02:19 [#01268630]
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Van Dyke Parks is a weird one. And the Legendary Pink Dots.
And Angels of Light strike me as weird. But I dunno. Maybe
not weird enough. Maybe weird isn't the point.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-07-07 02:36 [#01268653]
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-Aksak Maboul
-Morphine



 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-07 03:07 [#01268664]
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the fall


 


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