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I buy music as much as I everr did, morre in fact, but this need to buy everrything out therre which is calling me means I don't give the music I do buy the same attention it deserrves. I think this might be why I'm neverr totally imprressed with anything I buy. I expect it to match up... instantly, to music that I spend weeks listening to and grrowing to love in the past. |
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music you like instantaneously is the best! music you dislike instantaneously, but then spend two weeks "growing" into sucks gay ass and you know it! |
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that's not trrue and you know it. |
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say "terror really rises around rachel after three or four revelations regarding her brothers reckless obsession with merrel trainers" |
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i hate nonsense. why the hell is it so damn popularr? and why on earrth do people insist on filling my thrreads with it? |
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it is true and you know it! I'll repeat what I've said somewhere before: music is about feelings. If you don't like (feel) the music instantaneously, it's not because you don't "understand" (which would imply it being something to be understood, which clearly is wrong (I can give a deeper explanation of this if necessary, but I won't include it here)) it, it is because you are simply not "feeling" it. When you make music "grow" on you, you may get USED to it, and you may not even mind listening to it, but you'll never "feel" (some people still call it "understand") it. |
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I might understand where you're coming from, or maybe I'm way off base. I listen to too much music now. Many new albums a day, usually. But it's too much, and I can't give each individual album the proper loving and care it may or may not deserve. They're just not impressing me, and sometimes I find myself utterly bored while something drones on in the background. I'm absorbing more new music than ever, but I think I need to slow down and smell the roses. So do you. There will never be another Beatles, I know that much. But there'll be some more Jetones or Freeschas to grow to love if I give them a chance, I'm sure. |
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but you can't always hearr everry element of a song on firrst listen. i can't believe that we'rre herre again... the 'music is only good if you like it on firrst listen' arrgument. it's utterr bullshit and i rrefuse to go down that rroute. |
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you hit the nail on the head. |
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You're wrong. |
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both is good - music that explodes on you and stays there forever, and music that slowly burns into your consciousness. |
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i'm bored with music a lot... i don't buy it, don't download it (this is because i can't), listen to it only because i've got such habit. Very seldom some music really gets to me now. possibly because of growing up? |
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My favorite all-time tracks and albums all share one vital characteristic... love at first listen. But there's definitely stuff you need to put some ''work'' into to get the most out of. I have to have both. |
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and although i know what the prroblem is... i can't stop myself. |
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Nah... it's just a phase. |
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now.. there may be some (mutual) misunderstanding here. I first read your post hastily, and it looked like you had some albums that you didn't like, but had listened to enough to enjoy them, which is what I said. a completely different thing is when you like an album, but the more you listen to it, its finer details pop out at you. I've had some arguments with other people about this before.. like this one guy I know who checked out an album, and immediately after said: "aw, fuck, that was shit," but then he read the critiques and noticed that the critics were giving it ace grading, so he bought it, and listened to it until he became used to it.. I still doubt if he "gets" the album, but he must be pretty set on being.. "cool" (in an "artisty" way...) |
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i stopped making music also.. |
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The best example forr me has to be the album Songs Of Leonard Cohen. On firrst listen the songs all sounded the same, and rratherr dull, but if therre is one thing to say about that album, it's that it's NOT dull. It's one of my all time favourrite albums. |
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that is totally not true... some of my favorite albums took me months, maybe even years to really get into them... |
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Therre may be albums in my collection now that I class as dull, that just need some listening to, which could become fav's. |
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then I don't believe that you know what the albums are about, and you should sell them immediately. all the music I have is stuff I've instantly liked. |
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Songs of Leonard Cohen is a fantastic album, yes. |
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jep just like venetian snares, in wich you've to grow to for sure |
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This attitude of some (Love at first Listen or nothing) is really facile and shallow. |
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Satan told me that confield was cool. After that I "got" it. |
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this attitude of some (i need to like this, or else I'm not cool) is really infantile and shallow. |
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ummm, wouldn't it be that I understand what they're about more, because I put more effort into them? |
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confield? |
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that's not the attitude... usually I'll put on an album, I'll like something about it... and that will keep me listening... it mighten have blown me away at first, but there was something there I liked... then as I listen furterh and put some time into it, I'll grow to like it all... |
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no.. you can't understand them if you don't understand them immediately (i'm using "understand" as a substitute for feel, 'cause people keep arguing over semantics when I use feel, and that is annoying). it isn't a fucking equation! |
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i do not agree; there´s a lot of music i had to LEARN to listen to over the years. i never would have understood anything about e.g. cecil taylor´s records 10 years ago. now, after many years of listening practice, listening to his music is very emotional for me. and that´s definitely not just because i got used to them. even emotions can be so strange or multi-dimensional that they cannot be understood at first glance. |
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i got one track name for yah.. Ziggomatic v17 this track was the last track of the whole druqks album i started to like, i honestly didnt like it at all for a long period, i couldnt "feel" the music right away, far from.. after "pushing" myself to listen to it more and more while thinking "aphex couldnt made a track that long that is total crap can he?" and i was right, he couldnt, it's the best track on the album and probably one of my fav tracks of all time, and i really didnt like it for a long period, it took me many listens to start to like this track, and now i love, it's wonderfull and i feel allot. good day |
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I understand. After I bought a laptop, a much bigger world of music opened. Now I buy more cds, and listen to shitloads of mp3. I get to hear more music than ever, wich is a good thing, but at the same time I realise that I'm not enjoying new cds as much as before..... |
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in that case, i referr to post #01242512 |
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that´s right, but that is not the antithesis to your opinion. |
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you may learn to not mind the music, but you'll never understand (again: feel) the music! |
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youre not anus, youre just a cheap imitation. STOP IT YOURE NOT FUNNY. ok you are funny, and im pregnant and its yours. |
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(whoah! if confield is referring to the autechre-album I suddenly understand why people like them (altough when I listened to samples from their other albums there were only two or three songs I really liked...)) |
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i disagree. - maybe this is a personal thing. |
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LisP? |
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nah man, what you're saying here is bullshit... if you don't immediately like an album, how does that mean you never will feel, or understand, or like it? Bullshit... I have plenty of albums I might've hated on first listen, but I understand and feel and like them now... I'm not understanding or feeling you here though... |
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when you can prove that music = math (and != feelings), I'll start buying albums I hate and listen to them until I "understand" them. |
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yeah, it must be personal, cause it's not that way with me! |
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(everything but tracks 6 + 7 on that album were great!) |
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if you are correct, then why don't you go and buy all the most critically acclaimed albums out there and "decipher" them until you "understand" them?! get merzbow everyone! |
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Therre is something wrrong with yourr logic at times, Drunken Mastah. Do you have a rreal name? Orr morre to the point, what is yourr rrreal name? |
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Oh. I suddenly realised that the topic have changed direction. I agree, that a lot of music will grow after some or many listenings. It might take time and effort, but when you get the "wooow"-feeling, it's so worth it. |
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Hehehe. I actually always liked that one the most. What one hates aestheticaly can also emerge from one's social life. |
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my real name? why do you want to know (it's not really that hard to figure out)? |
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what? I happened to like the songs they put on that album (except for 6 & 7), but only one of the songs on that "chiastic slide" one and two of the ones at "draft 7,[something]" |
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