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before war and after The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program. The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared. UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported. "It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal." "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags. He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. |
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"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax." The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles. "The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors." UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey. In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country. |
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Source please. |
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gotta link? |
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Ignore that post. I only saw the first bit. |
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strike that |
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they were probably shiped to qrter's house. |
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the source is from THE WORLD TRIBUNE. not an extremist media of any sort. so boom. there u go whether u want to accept this or not. not my biz. just thought i'd post if for those who might be interested. |
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Worst |
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You posted it because you fancied another bashing, you looooooooovvvvvvvvvvve it. It's Friday night, someone knock me, quick! |
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if thats the best you can do. you're going to have to try a little harder. gotta go ttyl :) |
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there's no doubt that he had chem/bio weapons in the mid ninties, he admitted that much. he never explained what happend to them. something happend to them, but no one ever said AFAIK. whether they were destroyed, hidden, or sold is anyone's guess. it was his burden to prove what happend to them, yet he refused to do that, and actively tried to decieve the world as to their whereabouts. as far as i know, those are all facts. i believe something (other than what was being done -sanctions, inspections-) needed to be done. it was within saddam's power to stop what did. however, i wish bush was more of a diplomat, because i think a stronger more convincing case could've been made to the rest of the world, if there was more effort put into it. and maybe some of this shitstorm could've been avoided. |
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The more I read ChildrenTalking's posts the more I think Hitler was on to something. |
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:O |
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I hate every colour, race and creed the same, so I am allowed to say junk like that you stupid cracker. |
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WMD are such a piss poor excuse for war. Bush's planned battlefield nukes, anybody? The "coalition of the willing" haven't got a bleeding leg to stand on while they're still armed to the teeth. |
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ahoy!! |
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"Contrary to obligations under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which calls for non-nuclear states to forgo nuclear weapons and for nuclear weapons states to work to reduce their arsenals to zero, the United States intends to keep nuclear weapons forever. In preparation for escalating weapons work, the US plans to spend a minimum of $20 billion to upgrade the national nuclear weapons complex." this is a comment on the US developement of new mini-nukes, some people say these are more dangerous as they are more likely to be used. Strange how they say they want to rid the world of WMD yet they keep developing them themselves... a country which is the only ever to use nuclear weapons, twice... after carpet bombing a civilian population. |
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"there's no doubt that he had chem/bio weapons in the mid ninties, he admitted that much." yep, sold to them by the US, Britain and France and probably other countries... |
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"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999. |
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Interesting fact: American forces have killed more Iraqi Civillians than were killed by Sadam. |
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010101 you do realize Saddam Hussein-dictator, was genocidal butcher of his own people actually the kurds in northern iraq. its funny how we enjoy distorting truth when it doesn't appeal to "our agenda" |
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Interesting fact: You are typing absolute bullshit. |
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doesn't surprise me |
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I have no agenda. It is a fact. |
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hello how am i speaking bullshit the genocide was documented... |
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Yeah that can't be true. Saddam killed thousands and thousands. Of Kurds... so you might be right technically. |
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but does Hussein know he's evil? |
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the number of civilian deaths in Iraq is something like 10'000 at the moment |
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does bush? |
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what world do some of you people live in? i mean am i living in the twilight zone hhahah next thing you'll tell me is hitler didnt exist the holocaust never happened, oh right thats only a collective opinion with certain catholics (ie mel gibsons father). |
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Really? Shit. |
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that's what i'm sayin'. do evil people know they are evil? or do they think everyone else is evil. |
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Children Talking do you have kids? |
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just for my own edification, can we please see the sources for for these stated facts? because anything can be stated as a fact but that doesn't necessarlily mean anything without context. |
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http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ |
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agreed |
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http://www.nigelparry.com/mideastinternet/mei/980227.html |
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Saddam, evil bastard, wrought misery on his own people and his neighbours. Bush and his predecessors bring misery to all sorts of innocent people on a global scale. It's just that the US deals better with PR and marketing and that's all that counts these days. |
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http://www.independent-media.tv/gtheme.cfm?ftheme_id=42 shall I go on!!! |
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shows how little you know dog belch, did you ever hear of the organization USAID, this organizaiton assists iraqis in reconstructing their country by working within the coalition provisional authorit. usaid programs are implemented in coordination with the united nations the usaid mission in iraq carries out programs in education, health care, food security, infrastructure reconstruction, airport and seaport management, economic growth, community development, local governance, and transition initiatives. The usaid implements programs in four strategic areas: Restoring Essential Infrastructure Supporting Essential Health and Education Expanding Economic Opportunity Improving Efficiency and Accountability of Government umm dog...does 'CHILE' have an organization over in iraq trying to conserve stability in iraq? think not. try again though maybe you'll knock some credibility off the u.s. i mean i'm sure our people are jumping fences trying to get to CHILE. hahaha |
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I hope the "war on terrorism" is as successful as "the war on drugs" I don't know if you remember drugs but they were a socially damaging thing from the olden days |
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So why are the Iraqi people, on the whole, rejecting these great improvements? |
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010101 you do realize we have al sadr militia killing innoncent iraqi civilians trying to destabalize the new soverignty they're about to receive come june 30th? hello 1 + 1 = 2 |
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Well, probably not after the mess the CIA caused in Chile 1970-73, you fuck hole. |
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because they are uncivilized barbarians probably. (sarchasm) |
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Imagine people rejecting a puppet government. |
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because they don't know what's best for them, and We do. (more sarchasm) |
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Iraq is not part of the War on Terror, I hate it when Bush says it is. It has nothing to do with terrorism at all. |
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its spelled sarcasm* evolume |
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