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As i mentioned in a previous thread i dont like warp records. Personally because i am disappointed in the direction that they are heading. It is almost as if the days of old are gone and they are approaching artists that are slightly more marketable perhaps? It all started with the signing of !!!. I was at first thinking "hey this is great, a new artist to the roster" but that sadly disappeared. None of the new artists really have the staying power of artists of old. Awhile back you have aphex, autechre, etc etc. As much as i like chris clark, his CD doesnt have a plathora of playability. I find myself rarely listening to it. Is this the downfall of what used to be the most prominant electronic label in the UK? |
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Hey remember that song ? :D DISSSSSs |
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the good music is somewhere else now. but this has been so for years already |
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I think it's a good move to "diversify" with the Arcola and Lex sub-labels. Just a shame the newer Warp content isn't as good as the old. I suppose it could be a case of rose tinted spectacles with regard to their back catalogue, or perhaps that all the truly great acts are already signed. |
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oh please. not another Warp-bashing thread. this has been done to death. |
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back in the day, you could buy any warp release and be pretty sure of its quality....how i miss those days. |
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when I listen to those old releases, I'm afraid I have to disagree. |
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i guess they have been working in their direction for too long. this IDM genre or braindance or whatever is a thing of a few years, at a time it seemed as they could get 'round it with straight ragga with the bug, but this thing was already three years old when pressure came out. the last important record was druqks, that is to say, of course there is good music, it's just somewhere else. |
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DJ MINK says Yo my DJ mate bust up the wheels of steel! |
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I tend to agree. But is anybody releasing good music anymore? It's a very different landscape now from the halcyon days of the early-mid 90's. Lord alone knows when things will pick up. |
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jesus. |
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of course good music is released. |
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I would like To say that I like Warp Records and The Direction they are Taking. |
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You Are Not Hip To It. |
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right on brother |
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Well I haven't heard anything released in the last 5 years that isn't thoroughly derivative and fucking dull. |
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Don't be daft. I agree that Warp's quality has decreased, but I'm sure that has as much to do with the fact that most people here have been listening to this type of music for a couple of years now as the quality of the output itself. To illustrate this better, nothing has ever given me the same chills that Strawberry fields forever did when I was first getting into music, and the Beatles. Likewise, nothing on Warp is likely to give you the same chills you experienced when hearing SAWv1 or Incanubula Hard Normal Daddy or whatever for the first time. |
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(not for everybody i must admit, but nonetheless pure music) |
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its a no win situation. if people try to do something different people complain theyve gone "shit". if they churn out the same stuff they complain it sounds exactly the same as before. |
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Oh warp, warp, warp. I like thee, but love is yet beyond my grasp. You are no longer groundbreaking, warp. Jimmy edgar is anonymous, chris clark is (insert faint praise here), chk chk chk are fashion mag whores (but good ones...) Why, warp, why? You're just not that interesting anymore. Perhaps the Intelligent Dance Music Community has grown out of thee? |
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right. if they still knew what was quality they could just focus on that, regardless what people say in the first place. they have done it before and it worked. years ago. |
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I am sure there is fabulous music out there, somewhere, I just worry about what gets released. But I agree with what young KainiIndustries says. |
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in a recent interview, RDJ said he was getting exhausted by novelty, that he'd be perfectly happy if he didn't hear anything "new" for quite some time. i think i agree. there are times for innovation, and times for just enjoying people doing what they do. i mean, the most recent releases by three warp mainstays...AFX, AE, and squarepusher...are among the best work each has made. that's fine with me for now. |
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"Well I haven't heard anything released in the last 5 years that isn't thoroughly derivative and fucking dull." I must agree, I think this is the case for the most electronic music... Ampoule has released some great stuff, afx & ae have released some ok tracks - but over all it´s most dull and boring stuff nowadays... (heard it all before) (maybe I´m just getting old... :D) Now playing: Sonic youth - sonic nurse (retired rock music for retired people! :D) |
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I agree, the overall quality of the music just doesnt seem to be the same. Its been ages since i heard something truly ground breaking. I really wanted to believe that "ultra visitor" was going to meet my expectations but it did not. "26 mixes" was just rehashing what was flying around the internet forever. Ol tommy boy would have been better off releasing that amazing breezeblock set he just did. That is still top quality! |
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I love Warp records but I do think that their best artists are generally poached from other labels, BOC,Brothomstates,Aphex,R.Devine,Squarepusher et al all started life elsewhere as did many of their acts. |
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I think that's it, there's not much "enjoyment" in music lately. It sounds like people trying studiously to outdo each other in terms of programming, complexity (ack!), abrasiveness and sheer knob twisting tom foolery. And who is left behind in this race towards making the most unlistenable pile of shite imaginable, the listener. |
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sonic youth is playing here at the troubador tonight. sold out in minutes. i am ticketless. poor me. =[ . |
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I think there is lot's of joy in ISAN's music who ironically were going to have some stuff out on Warp though it never happened (there's a track on the remix compilation though). check the "Lucky Cat" album and "Salle de ISAN" e.p. on Morr, some of the most expressive anolog twiddling I've heard and melodies that would make even the most stoniest of hearts smile. |
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Some of the better stuff I've heard lately is from unsigned artists or net labels like TavCOM and retropublik, or on forums like WATMMs EKT. |
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or indeed here. |
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Yeah i really like ISAN, sorry i forgot about them. |
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They have released music with some very interesting and good "talents" like Brothomstates, ChrisC and Jimmy Edgar. They also continue to give us releases by some of the "Old Daddys" of electronica like BoC, Sqp and Ae. Warp are still the best electronica-label there is... |
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Yes i have heard some great tunes come out of the EKT forum! :D I once again agree with dog_belch. I wish that there was more feeling behind the music. It made me think. It really does feel as though perhaps the music could be a bit too technical and doesnt leave room for emotion. |
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warp's direction as of late has been radically different in some aspects, but i'm still going to approach it with open ears because these people put out music in the past that i liked, so there's a good chance i might like what they put out in the future. afterall, isn't the point of a record label that you release the music you like? ultimately it's up to them. their new rock direction seems a lot different. yeah, broadcast have been there a few years, but !!!, new TLS, gravenhurst (i think this is somewhat rockish? not sure), and even home video somewhat all seem to typify a possible new outlook on music for the label. but i don't think this is solely what they are concentrating on from now on: maybe i'm alone (i don't think so), but i absolutely loved ultravisitor. it's one of the best albums i've heard in awhile. i really like the new Team shadetek, too. i didn't mind jimmy edgar - sure, it wasn't groundbreaking or exceptionally great, but it was good nonetheless. i like chris clark's music a lot. yoseph was a very enjoyable album. personally i don't think warp have lost it at all. |
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come on... it's still a top label maybe they sould put out more "weirdo"/ "differents" records ; see rephlex & victor gama / normandeau or many mego releases ; but warp rec are still wiked records & smart people (bleep, warpmart) |
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i agree! |
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man, i'm lucky enough to be dj'ing with isan on 9th of september....yay for me!!!! |
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the 8th is my birthday! Do me a favor and record the set for me and i will love you this much [---------------------------------------------------------- ----------] |
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i'll see what i can do mate : ) |
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great! Thanks mate! |
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I agree aswell, Warp isn´t anymore what it used to be ofcourse music evolves etc etc, but Warp choose the wrong direction imo labels like Merck, n5MD are releasing IDM the way Warp should have done |
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"labels like Merck, n5MD are releasing IDM the way Warp should have done" that alone should explain why Warp are not doing just that. |
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"that alone should explain why Warp are not doing just that" atleast those labels know how to contract good artists, Warp lost the feeling imo, and I wonder if it has anything to do with the death of Rob Mitchell |
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they changed musical direction, or at least to what you had hoped/expected - this does not necessarily mean they contract bad artists. they're doing what they always have been doing - exactly what THEY want. obviously they're not going for the easy money - seeing how impopular they have become. |
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"seeing how impopular they have become" ..relative to what they were - they're still big in this genre, ofcourse. |
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rephlex is a pretty weak label imo |
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I agree. |
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I think music should just take a break for a year or two. Take time off, have fun, and then everyone come back refreshed. |
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i havent heard anything new that grabbed me by the balls apart from clouddead (big dadda). to me it was the freshest sounding thig id heard in ages. its to be expected though with so many aphex wannabes its going to start sounding samey. everyone looks to say 4 main guys for inspiration and the musical gene pool shrinks. the most ground breaking stuff ive been hearing lately is from artists who arent even signed. listening to slsk records releases (not including my own as its nothing special). but people like ears akimbo, kernal32, dof, diagoro some of the stuff coming out is amazing. keep your ear to the small labels for the real talent. fuck warp they release good stuff again eventually just dont forget theres much wider resources for music. not everyone with talent is sigend |
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