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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-10 19:37 [#01233987]
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ha ha
excellent idea!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-10 19:43 [#01234000]
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funny that merck should be mentioned, when a lot of their releases could only hope to be as cool as Prefuse 73...
i stand behind Prefuse, Req, Broadcast, Lexoleum... warp is not the end all be all... but i've never known them to be so i don't really give a shit... if you aren't feeling all the fantastic music out there, i feel bad for you... i'm not going to say anything else cause i'll just end up saying what i say every time this bullshit argument about how "no good music comes out anymore" comes up...
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-06-10 19:46 [#01234006]
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people arent looking for new electronica they r looking for a new genre as this ones getting old (not my exact opinion but it seems what every one is hoping for)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-10 19:47 [#01234008]
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not really.
I think most people basically want more of the same.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-10 20:07 [#01234050]
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Just because you don't like some of the output of a label doesn't mean they have turned shit. I for one welcome the diversity in Warp.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-10 20:08 [#01234052]
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my point exactly, Lee.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-06-10 20:14 [#01234069]
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warp schmarp
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-10 20:18 [#01234076]
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sorry I didn't read anything other than the topic title, I just guessed what other peoples responses where likely to have been and posted my own :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-10 20:25 [#01234082]
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no, that's fine! I'm just happy you feel the same way. :)
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-10 21:05 [#01234203]
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Yeah a lot of the electronic stuff happening these days doesn't appeal to me as much.
I think in my case it's my own tastes changeing though. If you do not like what other people are doing, take it into your own hands, make something for yourself.
I just make the shit that I want to hear.
People always complaining about the state of music - shit look at how much we have to choose from!
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-10 21:50 [#01234253]
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am i the only one who thinks the home video release is amazing?...i can`t stop playing it....
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-10 21:52 [#01234254]
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you pretty much nailed it anyway...
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-10 22:08 [#01234259]
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To a degree, I agree. Some of the nicest stuff I've heard for a bit has come from Quanuum, Anticon, and other fucked-up hip-hop pplzz. Odd Nosdam's solo stuff or Boom Bip being the bidness in particular.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-10 22:12 [#01234260]
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additionally, I'm too LAZY_TITLE to type this out again.
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napoleon
from littleton on 2004-06-11 01:21 [#01234350]
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maybe not 'amazing'... but it's damn good. i really enjoy it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-06-11 02:34 [#01234374]
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I am glad they took a chance with the new TLS though. Great album.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-06-11 16:19 [#01235740]
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ofcourse that is what I hoped for, what I think doesn´t have to be done, it is just my opinion, sorry if yours isn´t the same
please understand that I am talking from my point of view(that´s why I used "imo" a few times) we don´t have to agree you know..
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avart
from nomo' on 2004-06-11 16:39 [#01235763]
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oh - I forgot - bleep is a great idea, anyway.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-06-11 16:41 [#01235764]
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Come to think of it the last albums i really liked out of our electronic genre arent warp related.
Global Goon - Family Glue Hafler Trio Yagya Telefon Tel Aviv Pole shit like that.
Shuttle358 had its moments.
Also to mention i think Rephlex needs assistince as well but then again that is my humble opinion. I feel as though that there are two or three artists that really quench my musical thirst.
Among mentioning:
Ovuca/astrobotnia D`arcangelo Aphex/AFX
I also did enjoy the gentle people and a couple of others. I think they kind of overkilled Vibert for me. This is not to say that the other artists are crap it just comes down to personal opinion.
I too find that smaller labels just might be the key!
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-06-11 16:43 [#01235767]
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i dont think there is anything wrong with a label broadening their sound palette. it's not like new artists are going to affect the quality of anyone else they have on their label. as long as warp doesn't focus exclusively on new music, i could care less. and artists will release the music i want to hear, no matter the label.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-06-11 16:49 [#01235774]
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i think rephlex comes across as a little eccentric these days, after the explosion of "IDM", which may as well be defined as computerised, serious chop. happy, upbeat, and *gasp* danceable songs aren't really a commodity these days because it probably doesn't sound "complex" and "processed" enough to most people.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-11 19:50 [#01236065]
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The new Broadenhurst album is really nice, and not in the least bit electronica.
Just thought I'd share that.
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-06-11 19:55 [#01236070]
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everyone seems to feel rather powerless and wants to change things as they see fit. you'd feel a lot better if you accepted what is. if you truly want to control something, let it do anything it wants.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-06-11 20:02 [#01236073]
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That doesn't make sense. 'everyone' needs to take the best bit of aphex, the best bit of Ae etc and make something new. No more cheesy emulation, some expression.
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-06-11 20:05 [#01236074]
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no it doesn't. its completely contrived bullshit and i didn't mean a word of it. :)
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-06-11 20:06 [#01236075]
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8 )
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Torley Wong
on 2004-06-12 01:56 [#01236211]
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I dunno. I think some is psychological -- but I can only speak for myself. I know I've been desensitized over the years and a lot of what used to be new and fresh (to cop an 80s term :) )now sounds rather familiar. As they say, familiarity breeds contempt, but I'm positive there is a point for some artists at which IDM cliches can get twisted around and become refreshingly new again. Hmmm.
One of my problems is that there is a lot of good music -- which I enjoy -- that sounds like it could come from one artist. Only thing is, it's like 100 different people making the "same unique statements".
There is a time for Jolt Cola and a time for water :) One thing I have always liked about RDJ is his standout personality, I remember back in the mid-90s seeing the cover of ICBYD and I knew the man was not afraid to show his face. That was a big deal in electronic music at the time.
Still, I am hopeful for the future. Very hopeful.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-12 08:47 [#01236482]
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Oh how easily you all forget. Remember Drukqs? released on warp october 22nd 2001. now ive seen it described as groundbreaking and timeless on this mb. you cannot get records like that released every year! remember draft 7.30? remember #insert own choice here#? LFO? squarepusher? you know warp hasnt lost it completely of late.
chris clark is new to this, rdj and the gang are old masters. jimmy edgar has had 1 release which no one seems to like. is that a crime-remember smojphace anyone?
back in the good old days, redsnapper were on warp, and their stuff was hardly electronic, more jazzy ninjatuneish stuff. antipop consortium was, well hiphop.
so recently things have turned away from pure electronic music, so what. Its kinda sad if you are only capable of apreciating one type of music. just because you read on the internet and other cool places that IDM is the 'only' thing worth listening to, doesn't mean its true.
or is IDM old fashioned now. perhaps the new sound is grime? well stuff like grime existed a few years ago during the time when Uk garage was popular. yeah craig david et all were crap, but there was music just like that grime LP(perhaps better?) out there if you opened your ears.
if you like good music then warp is great, if you only like IDM/grime/'next cool thing' then perhaps not. Don't get me wrong, I don't love warp, i think it has made some crap releases of late, but looking back, it had crap releases from day one. live with it.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-06-12 10:58 [#01236586]
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Its kinda sad if you are only capable of apreciating one type of music. just because you read on the
internet and other cool places that IDM is the 'only' thing
worth listening to, doesn't mean its true.
Its not at all like that. I enjoyed it while it was there and now i am bored with the shit thats being released.
Nowadays i am listening to stuff like Timeless/Classic Rock, 90's rock and Punk/hardcore. I still make time for jazz in the evening hours to unwind and i toss in a bit of classical.
so recently things have turned away from pure electronic
music, so what.
I dont know... perhaps because of the fact that they were a powerhouse (imo) with the type of music they released years ago. If i wanted a diverse label with hiphop and all that i would look to fucking Warner Brothers. Warp was excellent at what they did and i feel as though they are slipping. I am aware they had some not so hot releases in the past. I feel as though i am seeing something occur to a label i used to like.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-12 11:15 [#01236609]
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Perhaps they have remained the same, and YOU have changed? Perhaps YOUR tastes have matured. Perhaps they have indeed changed.More likely it is a bit of both.
It would be great if things stayed the same, but its not the nature of this universe.
Change is inevitable. Just think, warp got you into artists/music which you had never heard off before. Now it can do it to a whole new generation of kids who buy hear jimmy edgar/chris clark/beans and punch them into google.
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