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I take it peepz have seen the pics. The gulf between what the American political elites spout and what they do is amazing. Can you imagine the furore if the roles here were reversed? |
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yes. I can imagine the rest of the world being blown up by a nuclear bomb while bush and his administration were hiding in a mountain somewhere... |
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<---- since last night. me, lee, make political statement... |
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I think that, at least THIS time, those MOTHERFUCKING SOLDIER ASSHOLES should be judged in Haag! But they'll probably whine about it and go "nooo! we are AMERICANS! we shall be judged in our OWN country!" stupid motherfuckers! I HATE SOLDIERS! even though the are going to judge Saddam in america! |
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I saw this on the news and was disgusted... |
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The censored pic is the worst D: |
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I think they spelled RAPIST wrong.... |
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So much for the moral case for war. "We're going in there to rid the world of a torturous regime!" Hmm.... |
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...and use the most notorious jail to...well, carry on the torture. |
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"Yesterday Frederick said he would deny abuse, claiming he was not shown Geneva Convention rules on how to treat captives." One of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. |
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You've got to love those cheeky grins they're pulling though haven't you? "Hey hey! We're just torturing people. Aren't we just the fucking tops?" |
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Hmmm, bottom missing there. Basically I'm fucking disgusted at this shit going in. I can't be arsed to write what I did again. |
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After all this shit how can anybody possible be for the war on Iraq? |
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The type of people for the war would be the very same as the type posing in the photos. I'll sum them up: FUCKING CUNTS. |
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Yank soldiers = Pretty unproffessional, generally speaking. |
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I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Think of all the horrible things that happened that weren't photographed...or even talked about in the news :( Anyway, I'm glad there are pictures of this |
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They look like they are enjoying it to me. |
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When the death of Pat Tillman occurred, I turned to my friend who was watching the news with me and said, "How much you want to bet they start talking about him as a 'hero' in about two hours?" Of course, my friend did not want to make that bet. He'd lose. In this self-critical incapable nation, nothing but a knee-jerk "He's a hero" response is to be expected. I've been mystified at the absolute nonsense of being in "awe" of Tillman's "sacrifice" that has been the American response. Mystified, but not surprised. True, it's not everyday that you forgo a $3.6 million contract for joining the military. And, not just the regular army, but the elite Army Rangers. You know he was a real Rambo, who wanted to be in the "real" thick of things. I could tell he was that type of macho guy, from his scowling, beefy face on the CNN pictures. Well, he got his wish. Even Rambo got shot in the third movie, but in real life, you die as a result of being shot. They should call Pat Tillman's army life "Rambo 4: Rambo Attempts to Strike Back at His Former Rambo 3 Taliban Friends, and Gets Killed." But, does that make him a hero? I guess it's a matter of perspective. For people in the United States, who seem to be unable to admit the stupidity of both the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars, such a trade-off in life standards (if not expectancy) is nothing short of heroic. Obviously, the man must be made of "stronger stuff" to have had decided to "serve" his country rather than take from it. It's the old JFK exhortation to citizen service to the nation, and it seems to strike an emotional chord. So, it's understandable why Americans automatically knee-jerk into hero worship. However, in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico, Tillman would have been called a "pendejo," an idiot. Tillman, in the absurd belief that he was defending or serving his all-powerful country from a seventh-rate, Third World nation devastated by the previous conflicts it had endured, decided to give up a comfortable life to place himself in |
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However, in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico, Tillman would have been called a "pendejo," an idiot. Tillman, in the absurd belief that he was defending or serving his all-powerful country from a seventh-rate, Third World nation devastated by the previous conflicts it had endured, decided to give up a comfortable life to place himself in a combat situation that cost him his life. This was not "Ramon or Tyrone," who joined the military out of financial necessity, or to have a chance at education. This was a "G.I. Joe" guy who got what was coming to him. That was not heroism, it was prophetic idiocy. Tillman, probably acting out his nationalist-patriotic fantasies forged in years of exposure to Clint Eastwood and Rambo movies, decided to insert himself into a conflict he didn't need to insert himself into. It wasn't like he was defending the East coast from an invasion of a foreign power. THAT would have been heroic and laudable. What he did was make himself useful to a foreign invading army, and he paid for it. It's hard to say I have any sympathy for his death because I don't feel like his "service" was necessary. He wasn't defending me, nor was he defending the Afghani people. He was acting out his macho, patriotic crap and I guess someone with a bigger gun did him in. Perhaps it's the old, dreamy American thought process that forces them to put sports greats and "larger than life" sacrificial lambs on the pedestal of heroism, no matter what they've done. After all, the American nation has no other role to play but to be the cheerleaders of the home team; a sad role to have to play during conflicts that suffer from severe legitimacy and credibility problems. Matters are a little clearer for those living outside the American borders. Tillman got himself killed in a country other than his own without having been forced to go over to that country to kill its people. After all, whether we like them or not, the Taliban is more Afghani than we are. Their resistance is more legitimate than our in |
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regardless of the fact that our social values are probably more enlightened than theirs. For that, he shouldn't be hailed as a hero, he should be used as a poster boy for the dangerous consequences of too much "America is #1," frat boy, propaganda bull. It might just make a regular man irrationally drop $3.6 million to go fight in a conflict that was anything but "self-defense." The same could be said of the unusual belief of 50 percent of the American nation that thinks Saddam Hussein was behind Sept. 11. One must indeed stand in awe of the amazing success of the American propaganda machine. It works wonders. Al-Qaeda won't be defeated in Afghanistan, even if we did kill all their operatives there. Only through careful and logical changing of the underlying conditions that allow for the ideology to foster will Al-Qaeda be defeated. Ask the Israelis if 50 years of blunt force have eradicated the Palestinian resistance. For that reason, Tillman's service, along with that of thousands of American soldiers, has been wrongly utilized. He did die in vain, because in the years to come, we will realize the irrationality of the War on Terror and the American reaction to Sept. 11. The sad part is that we won't realize it before we send more people like Pat Tillman over to their deaths. |
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You are so thoughest. |
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Site the source please. |
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*Cite |
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"I think that, at least THIS time, those MOTHERFUCKING SOLDIER ASSHOLES should be judged in Haag! But they'll probably whine about it and go "nooo! we are AMERICANS! we shall be judged in our OWN country!" unfortunately there will be none of that as Americans cannot be accused of warcrimes anymore because they are the superior country and we must comply or suffer the consequences. I believe we signed a treaty for it. .Remember how Belgium had to sign this treaty when they wanted to try that U.S. general for war crimes? There was a huge outrage in the U.S. They couldn't believe their allies wanted to trial "one of the boys", one of the good guys. btw.,We also signed a treaty that allows the U.S. to invade our country whenever they feel like it, not that they'd need that but it sounded ridiculous enough when I heard it. |
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The treaty of hague was only made to support this whole charade. It was never meant to be really used for the western world especially the american army-the prime protector of liberalism. |
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why do people take five paragraphs to sum up something that could fill no less than three sentences? |
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i didn't read it either |
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ha ha |
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saw some new pictures online, and now it all makes sense to me. There was a woman in charge. |
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:( horrible. if this is true they definately should be charged as war criminals. however, the actions of a few sickos doesn't represent the soldiers or the american population as a whole. ..continue h8orizing. |
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They represent a system that gives power to some people over others. Malice is bound to take place. I have to be clear about it. I believe there's not much one can do about it... |
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Looking at it on the news, once again the young american male's obsession with homosexuality comes into play. A definite pattern is showing. |
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The Iraqis deserved it for not being Christians. |
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hardline religious dogmas lie at the root of most of the world's problems. if there were such things a omniscient deities, they' surely wouldn't be happy. |
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..assuming they were also kind omnicscient dieties.. |
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stop talking shit |
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well, duh. Omniscient beings might be good, bad, OR ugly. |
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god has a receding hairline, and he needs braces. true story. |
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do you have receding genes? |
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i tried to think of something funny to say... maybe somthing about receding jeans, but none of it was funny so i'll have to go with: yeah, probably as my answer. |
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Unbelievable, soldiers hurting soldiers. This is an outrage. |
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FUCKINGSICKPRIVATESECTORTORTUOUSEXTREMISTRACISTCHRISTIANNUT JOBMUTALATORSBASTARDINGAMERICANS. surprise, surprise. Fuck these Imperialist cunts. bye. |
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this shit reminds me of nam, mistreating people like they're lower beings and thinking it's alright cos there's a war going on. |
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I'm not surprised, or even shocked. Not sure what that says about me or humanity. Obviously these soldiers are sick puppies, though. There's worse than that, and this isn't some ritual that's unique to Americans. |
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the look on their faces and cheerful "thumbs up" gestures are nearly the most appalling part of it.. |
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yeah, war has a not-so-funny way of bringing out the worst in people. |
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"..and this isn't some ritual that's unique to Americans." true, but seeing the righteousness of the American army, it is pretty telling. |
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