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i think we create our own suffering |
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oops wait... that was too heavy for this topic huh? |
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exactly... God is just an easy scapegoat! THERE, I'M OUT!! :) |
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read the comments.. hilarious |
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is god those eyes at the top of the page? |
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no, thats the xlt wolfman. |
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i signed. #8438 |
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God and Iraq |
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>You people are so blind! God loves you and he is coming back someday to take all of those who trusted in his love to heaven with him!! You are all his children and he allows things to happen for a reason! OH and by the way... 911 could have been a good thing! THIS IS ALL PART OF A BIGGER PLAN THAT NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT! God is going to end the world someday... His creation has turned on Him bad things happen because of the evil in the world. Stop asking him to stop the madness. Just trust and pray that you won't be so foolish to deny His judgement! I love Jesus. He saved me. You all might try just loving God. He loves you. I know I'm signing this petition but God knows it's only to tell you people the truth. God why must everyone be so blind? I trust you though. (don't say I didn't warn you when REVELATION is played out) |
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what a dumbass |
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God why must everyone be so blind? USING THE LORDS NAME IN VANE!!!!! [/STONING] |
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pfft im out, you all are wank. |
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vain? |
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"I know I'm signing this petion...." I know it hurts when I ram this knife into your throat, but god knows that I am doing this for him and he will forgive me, otherwise heaven will sack him and and satan will get promoted if he dosent do his job, and we don;t like him |
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sorry, kinda lost the plot for a sec there ignore me |
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why would the lord of darkness want to rule all the pussies in heaven? |
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heavy or not, tibbar is right on. |
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for a moment there i lost myself |
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TIOBBAR IS NOT US THAT CREATE THE PROBLEMS GOD IS THE BADMN|AKING AND HE WILL READ OUR PETITION AND STOP TRAGEDY FROM POSTING RAIDOHEAD LYRI!!!!! |
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comeone nigel, say it THE INTERNET IS RETARDED |
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its cool pogo, go with it, you might enjoy it. |
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tibbar distills the spirits that intoxicate your soul. |
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not true, but it sounds good. |
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*holds sides from laughing so hard* |
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hahaha ^^ |
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I won't sign it....we need bad in the world to balance the good. |
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We have free-will and therefore WE have fucked up. Disease, war, famine are all solvable problems. Most of us just aren't willing to sacrifice our quality of life to give a shit. Why the fuck would anyone be under the impression that God used a bunch of middle eastern individuals as his pawns to destroy the twin towers on 9/11? They did it on their own accord, most likely as a result of some ridiculous foreign US policy (again to maintain our high standard of life) |
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I agree Jedi Chris.....very yin / yang. Sorry for my bitter post - today I'm quitting smoking. I'm going to count backwards from 10 now. |
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excellent excellent point. |
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i don't think you should take this petition too seriously catharsis... : ) |
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I know uzim...it's just the nicotine withdrawl. It's sad that some people have that view however, and would actually sign. |
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i think we create our own suffering I totally agree. If we'd be living simple (natural and joyful) lives without any cultural progression (= kinda like living like monkeys or something) we'd only get hurt by other animals (and they have free will, right?), other humans (but it wouldn't be so common), or if we fall from a high distance or run into something. At present most people die either from hurting themselves (e.g. living unhealthy lives), or being hurt by other people (e.g. murdered) or being hurt by something that's cultural (rather than natural, e.g. accidents like being hit by a car, dying in a planecrash, etc). In the end, humans or products of humans cause most (99.9...%) of the pain in the world. We're the ones who hurt ourselves. Stop it! Take good care of yourself, and respect everything living. (sorry if this has been said, I only got to tibbar's post before I replied) |
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yeah that last post I wrote, it was exactely what you wrote here. I agree. |
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never fear, science will show us the way. and when it has been conclusively proven that there is no god, bad things will happen more predominantly as the beleif of god provides law and order among people, and if there is no god, then there's nothing to worry about just like when the oracle is taken out of the matrix and smith takes over the place. |
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it's just too easy to pass the buck on to higher powers you cannot comprehend as a human mortal being that is flawed and subject to emotional distortion to your perception. |
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Science is bullshit Humans shouldn't depend on anything other than nature, just like ALL OTHER ANIMALS. Right now humans are living in a dreamworld thinking they're different than all other creatures on earth, thinking we're solving problems and creating a good world for humans. But in fact; most (if not "all) of the problems we've solved have been created by us originally. Humans are not meant to live in societies like the one we live in today (in fact, far from it). People need to understand that life is not meant to be painful, and understand that pain is created by humans and the culture(s) we live in. |
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i think i speak for EVERYONE browsing this message board that giving up the internet to live with nature would mean a most untimely death. |
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my less than humorous opinion: one day, science and spirituality will emerge as one unified discipline. people claim that there is "no god" but they know about as much as those who claim that god created aids to punish homosexuals. at the risk of provoking more "new age idiot" criticism, what we call reality is far more subtle and complex than many people realize. some people want to see science as a pure, objective ideal, when nothing of the sort exists. science is directed by belief as is religion, and is similarly subject to political and ideological influence. yet i say embrace pure science as much as i say realize your true identity. systematic scientific inquiry is only a few hundred years old. it is in its infancy. imagine traveling to 1850 and trying to teach people about quantum physics, and that physical objects are in fact mostly empty space. systematic scientific inquiry will continue to transform our world until it's virtually unrecognizable to our present eyes, and not because of any "proof" that god does not exist. we don't even know who god is, and we want to talk about whether or not god exists! |
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i think i speak for EVERYONE browsing this message board that giving up the internet to live with nature would mean a most untimely death. Well I don't hate all cultural progression, but since we've gotten so far we should do away with all the things that's a part of our past and just brings pain into our (and all other living things) lives. I like cultural things such as art and everything that has to do with art (e.g. things needed to create / preserv / display art)... But really, we should do away with everything that brings pain into our lives, and makes us dependent/addicted. I want 100% individual freedom. Adults should be free, nobody should be told what to do / not to do, or force a person to do something. Many people waste more than 8 hours per day on work (that they don't like; they do it just because they HAVE to). I could never do that. Cause that would be like wasiting 1/3 of my life. Life is too valuable. Oh yes it is. Death is such a taboo in modern society - but if people don't realize and understand the value of death, how can they enjoy and understand life, the way it should be? Everybody should fight for freedom, cause there are so many in the world today that aren't free. |
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the proof that god does not exist will arrive when scientists are able to actually determine and make public knowledge what happens to a person's "life force" (avoiding the jaded world soul) when the life of the body has ended. the bible thumpers or the scientists in no way have an answer, but the bible thumpers are they only ones that CLAIM they do. scientists are actively working to figure it out, instead of just saying "this is how it is, get used to it" and i have much more respect for them because of it. if science was based on belief, wouldn't saying you don't believe in gravity release you from it's bounds and fling you into space? of course maybe all the smart people already figured this out and that explains the intelligence of the current population. |
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there is no 'people should'. |
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science is directed by belief as is religion yep, sure is. I know people who don't care much for religious people but still believe 100% in science and everything e.g. a doctor tells them. If we instead of inventing doctors to solve problems would avoid the things that create problems - DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A GOOD WORLD THAT WOULD BE? |
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science is directed by belief as is religion you have no idea about sience |
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neither of religion when i think of it |
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there is no 'people should'. I certainyl agree with you. There isn't in real life (e.g. physical nature). But of course there is in the societies we live in. Actually, I don't know what you mean. |
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it's just like saying 'if the sky was green' |
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if the sky was green |
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I was quoting plaidzebra... I know people who talk about science just like some religious people talk about god. Even knobcheese wrote "never fear, science will show us the way." I don't hate all science, like I said, I like progression in areas that will help us experience/create/preserv art. I may not know about science, or religion. But I know what we could be doing to save ourselves from further misery. |
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kochlear, it seems to me that your perspective is clouded by animosity for those with whom you disagree. those "bible thumpers" are each individuals, and they are right about some things, and wrong about others, and neither right nor wrong about still others. likewise the "scientists," and the "scientific materialists," those who adhere to a model of reality that, like the "bible thumpers," they borrowed from other people. look at the last two thousand years, and tell me that all of the models of reality generated by the religious faithful are static! some religious models evolve, as scientific models evolve, and neither will "prove" the other right or wrong. in the present, people adhere to scientific models as if they were objective truth, the same as people adhere to religious models. you think that scientists will prove there is no god when they prove what happens to the "life force" at death? but you don't even have any idea what or who god is! |
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