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except I'd have to buy a PC to run the god damn editor program. |
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damn dude, I didn't read any of that yet but judging by the look of it and the pic of the editor program, that thing looks like it's off the motherfucking chain! how much do they run? |
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rack-$1000 keyboard-$2000 give or take it does physical modeling now! :-D!!!! |
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they keyboard is so hot... but 1000 extra is just too rich for my blood... |
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The price for the keyboard version will be approximately USD 2.499.-/Euro 2.199.- and for the Engine USD 1.199.-/Euro 999.- |
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Very, very nice it is too |
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the price of fame my friend, the price of fame... |
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fuck me, well there goes my hopes of EVER owning one. |
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i'm not even going to listen to the sound demos because I don't want to know what I'm missing. |
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a penny saved is a penny earned! Except youd have to save at least 120,000 pennys... :-\ |
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That editing software looks scarier than Reaktor. |
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Is it analog? There's no reason to buy gear that isn't analog. Otherwise you could just use your PC. |
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but it does look nice, actually. |
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how do you makes sense of that jumbled mess that is the software? |
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no its not... but I TOTALLY disagree. theres plenty of hot shit out there that is hardware, and digital... and no, computers cant emulate them. And even if they could... the thing about hardware, is it doesnt kill your CPU load. Open several absynths, reaktors, and mach fives, and you start to choke |
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that pic is just showing some of the modules availible.... there are over 150! in that pic, there is no cables though... to really use it... you need to connect cables to ins and outs on each module... but thats the beauty of it... since its modular... the combonations of things you can plug together is almost limitless! |
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sorry, but you must not know a whole lot about synths, then. Either that, or you're only giving thought to the digital synths from the 80s, because there are plenty of digital synths out now that are very "fat" and cannot be emulated very well (or at all) by computers. |
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You are wrong there. |
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im thinking of getting a micro modular.. itll be my 1st synth you synth-wizards think thatll be a wise choice? |
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and zeus: isnt there a mac version for the editor? |
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I see, I don't use any of that shit (ie..absynths, reaktors, and mach fives). Just Supercollider. You can get tons out of that prog with little cpu, but yeah. OK. It looks nice.. but how do they make them FAT?? It's still numbers. You can't properly interpolate true analog. You need massive sample rates. I'm sure they program the instability characteristics of analog oscillators into the modules, or do they? Sure a higher sample rate, but it's got to get cut to something. Probably a 16 bit CD. I want proof that good software can't beat a digital synth not counting the soundcard that come on the synth. I agree that cpu dedicated synthesis is good. Of course, but you could never beat a few really good analog midi keyboards like a roland mks-80 or the like.. granted you lose convenience of a workstation..but that's not what they're for. If the software is bad it's cause of bad programming. Seems to me you get an extra cpu a decent soundcard and a new gui with the G2. |
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i'm still selling my NL2 (now w/ accessories!!!) with gigbag and pcmicia (if that's how i spell it, been a while) for 1200$. |
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If this thing had analog circuits it would be the bomb. An anaolg synth with dedicated gui. Oh, boy. Does such a thing exist? |
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i don't think that there is a "pure" analog synth out there with a GUI. |
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you dont quite get it eh.. theres always a difference between synthesizing sound with your computer, which is pure mathematics, and characteristics of the circuitry in a (digital) synth. anyway, i dont think youll get a good softsynth for much less than a hardware synth... and you need an expensive pc to run the software on too. |
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Gimmie an article. You're arguments holds some truth, but not much. I mean, Supercollider to me sounds much different than Reaktor. All those subtleties of the circuits can be coded into the programs..They have been...The FM7 is a perfect DX7 emulation, but a proper analog synth i don't think is there, yet.... |
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You need a computer to patch and sequence the G2 and you can get pirated or free software. Not that I wouldn't get a G2. It looks nice. |
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Digital synths are pure mathmatical based as well, you could create custom chips to process the information more efficiently but they don't directly effect the sound coming out...it is still just number crunching. |
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Look at the vocoder on the editor! :D |
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but .. doesnt the circuitry it runs trough give it a nice sound? i made some pitch generating circuits with IC's, and it did sound 'analog' to me.. ah you might be right but .. eh.. it looks cool having a room full of synths! |
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nice rack! ...... oh and this Nord is also cool! ;) god my humour is shit. |
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Judging by your avatar you seem to disagree. |
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NO ! |
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Listening to the demo songs, it sounds mighty impressive. Nice string synthesis- it does sound like it's synthesised, but it does the up/down stroke very well and is certainly one of the nicest "synthetic strings" I've heard. |
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no but really should i get that micro modular? ceri: the string mp3 thingey is the awesomeness eh :) |
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Zeus, tell me, what is this Nord Modular you speak of? :) |
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Ooh, they changed the interface and added some different shades of grey. Reminds a little of the old Rolands scheming. Cool. |
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Oh god that keyboard looks so sexy |
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The big companies spend a lot and a lot and a lot of time and money on the soundengines and everyting around the digital synths they make. Not that many softsynths have the same amount of work made on them, therefore hardware usualy sound better. Sure, if the engine was written for a computer from the begining it could make the same sounds. But that is just stupid, why put more and more load on your cpu when you get the whole synth in a nice box with nice knobs and buttons and soundinterface and loveley little leds? The softsynth would have cost the same anyway.. |
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JAroen, the old G1 is both for PC and Mac. The new one isn't, not yet anyway. Don't hold your breath for a Mac version either. I think Clavia said the market is too small to justify a Mac version or something. There are quite alot of G1 on sale now, that the G2 is coming, so I would save and get that extra bit. With the Micro, you can only run 1 patch at a time. The others hold 4. Bogala, with the G2 you no longer need an editor to patch or sequence. I don't think the patching is as in-depth without the editor, but you can change the most common stuff. |
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I may be, but in my experience, EVERY softsynth I have ever heard is put to shame by my EX5. If you want digital that sounds as fat as as analog, I suggest you start there. EX5 = fattest digital synth I have ever heard. |
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EX5? I guess you haven't heard that many then :) |
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No, I guess you haven't heard the EX5! |
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The Nord is really just a computer - So it should be possible to turn it into a softsynth one day - But it'd bring a high powered PC to its knees at the moment - Think Nord use high speed DSP chips or something. I tend to prefer to spend money on real analog synths myself... Ideally vintage too... Two main reasons - Sound (which VA still can't touch, and prolly never will) and also they're a better investment - You can justify spending £600 on a 303 cos you know it'll be worth £700 a year later... But yeah, I certainly wouldn't mind one of those Nords. |
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I want a roland mks-80. I just don't have 800 bucks. The G2 does look very nice. |
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That's a shitload of money. Do you really need it yet? |
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Heh, I want an MKS-80 too - I am very tempted to buy one right now! It's an awesome synth - It's just incredibly versatile - Can do pads, basses, all sorts of lead/melody lines... RJ used it heavily. If I could own only one analog synth it'd have to be an MKS-80... Needs the MPG-80 programmer too... But yeah, owning one quality piece of gear like that can have a massive impact on your writing and your sound. |
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It's quite a lot of money - But it's not money down the pan... In a few years it'll most likely be worth a few £hundred more than that... So it's actually like having moey in a high intrest bank account, plus you get to use one of the best synths ever made for as long as you want. |
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One of rdj's friends told me the windowlicker bass synth was probably done with the mks. Analog gear is a wonderful investment. Wish I knew that when I had an MS-20 and 202. Sold them for a fucking PC. Im such a moron. |
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