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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:21 [#00992007]
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Since my life has taken so many turns lately and I've solidly decided to pursue electronic music, I'm heavily considering moving to England within the next 9 months.
I know I'll need a job, find a place to stay and hopefully make some good contacts before I make the move. I'm really serious about this.
Wondering if you guys have any tips, local information, anything like that... job hunting (I'm a soon to be graduating system administrator) or where the best places to stay are, anything that might help
I appreciate this tremendously, I feel the energy moving faster, like something needs to happen with my life
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:23 [#00992011]
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better rain than earthquakes i always say
dude, i wanna go to england so bad and do all the rephlex party "thing"
people will tell you not to go, but i say fcuk'em
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:29 [#00992015]
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Very close to making the decision...
... and I love the rain
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-15 09:31 [#00992017]
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Go to a decent sized city that isn't London.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-15 09:37 [#00992024]
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Tip: If someone in England offers you a fag, they are not inviting you to have anal intercourse with a person of the homosexual persuasion but, in fact, are offering you a cigarette.
London is not shrowded in a permanent fog.
No one speaks like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.
The Queen does not exist. She is an animatronic puppet used to entice American tourists to these shores.
Most importantly of all; never, ever publicy admit that you're an American. Say you're Canadian or something.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:37 [#00992025]
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This I've heard, the question is 'why?'
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:38 [#00992027]
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I'm from California, when I went to Europe people liked that... they just don't like the rest of Americans, and quite frankly, neither do I for the most part... I think we'll get along fine
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:51 [#00992041]
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How're you graduating as a sys admin? Are you getting a vocational qualification or an academic one? I only ask because (and I'm not being nasty, just telling you the truth) American qualifications aren't taken terribly seriously here... it might be best to wait till you have a year or two's experience from working in america before trying to move here- you'll find it a lot easier to get a sys admin job that way. That is of course, assuming you want a sys admin job here? (Might be a wise choice- easy position to get music apps on your work pc and "get paid to make music"! :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-15 09:53 [#00992045]
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THE TAX WILL KILL YOU!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:59 [#00992052]
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...and don't expect to be able to buy your own place till you're 30, even if it's a really modest 1 bedroom flat.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 09:59 [#00992053]
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I have a year of experience and will have a 4 year degree in computer engineering with a solid knowledge of FreeBSD, hopefully that will be enough to land me a QA job or something. I'd rather start small so I have more time for other things. That info is VERY helpful though, thanks
Where would a good place to look for a job be and what cities would you recommend? I have a friend who works at Sun, but they're laying off everyone, he might go to Ireland on their company program, but it's unsure right now
Staying where I am isn't an option right now, I need to move, I need a huge change in my life
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-15 10:07 [#00992059]
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Ah, if you've got a years experience you should be fine.
As to a city, Liverpool or Manchester are good bets... a lot of companies are moving their administrative centres up there as they're a lot cheaper than london, but have the infrastructure to handle big business. I'd normally advise you to steer clear of Ireland for jobs... but Ireland are massive in the IT sector.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-15 10:33 [#00992079]
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Come to Liverpool...the greatest city in the world.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 11:02 [#00992112]
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What are the benefits, besides lower rent, of Liverpool or Manchester over London?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-15 11:05 [#00992114]
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if you have money move to london :)
if you're after music that is surely the best place to be...
if i had money i'd go there for 5-7 years or as long as im going to enjoy visiting parties :)
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assassinator13
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-15 11:33 [#00992164]
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For music, London and Manchester are the best places.
But like that guy said, Manchester is ALOT cheaper than London for everything.
Liverpools good aswell, but you might not be able to understand a single word they say to you.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-15 11:44 [#00992187]
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I've also been entertaining the idea of spending a few years in the greater london area.
i can fake a few different versions of the english accent as well as scottish, irish, and even austrailian, so i don't think i'll have too much trouble blending in. accept i still like to use words like "french fries" and phrases like "blow up them damn iraqi's."
that could blow my cover i guess.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-12-15 11:57 [#00992212]
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Glasgow is where it is at. fuck London. Overpriced shithole. haha
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-15 12:00 [#00992218]
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Manchester's a shit hole though
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-15 12:34 [#00992243]
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Why is Manchester a shit hole? I need details from the locals!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-15 12:45 [#00992255]
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Lower cost of living too- might sound like the same thing, but I really do think people in london generally lead a "poorer" life- an extra £3,000 a year on your wages doesn't come close to compensating for the increased cost of loads of things (aside from housing)- food, alcohol, night club entry, clothes, etc. all cost less in the north.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-15 12:50 [#00992262]
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sell out!
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diablo
on 2003-12-15 13:01 [#00992276]
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Fuck it, go for it and move to London. It might be hard work at first, money doesn't go far here, but if thats what you want, do it. Sounds like you have the enthusiasm to make it work.
As for getting a job... check workthing.com totaljobs.com getajob.com ( ithink) look for "jobs in london" (or manchester or wherever) on google and see whats there
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-16 01:27 [#00993329]
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Checking out the web sites, pretty generic, how hard is it to get employed over there right now?
I know some of you englishers are coming online soon, any help would be quite welcome
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 01:33 [#00993335]
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Please don't come here. We don't want any more economic migrants. Do we Ceri?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-16 01:41 [#00993344]
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woohoo, everyone loves Canada!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-16 01:46 [#00993350]
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I think I'd enjoy living in the UK somewhere... living here in The Netherlands for the past 3 months has been awesome, but I don't know if I'd want to live here permanently...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 01:48 [#00993354]
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I dunno, we're pretty full here. Not sure we'd have room for you.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-12-16 02:36 [#00993387]
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Why shouldn't you say you're American? Because of our foriegn policy? If so, That's silly.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 02:44 [#00993396]
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No, no. We hate Americans for all sorts of reasons. Foreign policy is just one. That is top of the list for those countries around the world who you've shat on. Its more cultural for us Brits.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-16 02:45 [#00993398]
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I know it's because you don't want me there... I KNOW!!! Why must you hurt me so?
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-12-16 02:47 [#00993400]
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I wanna go to Rome, personally
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-16 02:48 [#00993403]
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yeah me too... I want to go to Rome, Athens, Barcelona, etc...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 02:54 [#00993410]
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I'm sorry. Can you find it in your cold, American heart to forgive me? :o)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-16 02:55 [#00993411]
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Hey man, I'm Canadian... how can you insult me like that? :(
just kidding, I have nothing against Americans! :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 02:58 [#00993412]
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Canadian, American...what's the diff? You all talk funny.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-16 03:01 [#00993415]
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I'll be going to Athens in February. Wooo :)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-12-16 03:02 [#00993416]
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cultural what?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-16 03:09 [#00993417]
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Murr?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-16 03:09 [#00993418]
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Murr?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 03:14 [#00993419]
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Just the general cultural differences between Americans and Brits, or even Europeans. Americans tend to be loud, brash and uncouth while us Brits, and many of our European comrades, are more sophisticated, subtle and refined.
These differences count for a lot.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-16 03:58 [#00993456]
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you dont visit football matches often, do you? :)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-16 04:11 [#00993471]
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Brits, sophisticated, subtle and refined? WAHAHAHAHA
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 04:38 [#00993505]
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I wouldn't include our lumpen proletariat in that definition of course.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-16 04:40 [#00993507]
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I would hardly consider someone coming from America to here "economic migration" :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-16 04:42 [#00993510]
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so english society is mainly high class people then? im sure charles can behave :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 04:52 [#00993523]
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He said he's coming here to work didn't he?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-12-16 04:53 [#00993524]
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Maybe not England, but Wales, yeah.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-16 04:55 [#00993529]
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I thought the defenition of an economic migrant was one wishing to improve their (material) quality of life by moving to another country?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-16 04:56 [#00993530]
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To live, not necessarily to work... although sadly I think it'll end up being hand in hand
Checked out jobs, looks better there then it does here right now
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