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It just occured to me while watching bits of the digitally remastered version of Raiders of the Lost Ark of TV. I mean is he just naive and dumb or full blown rascist. The horrid racial stereotypes that he heaps on the natives of which ever country whose Areceological Bounty Indy is set to pillage and well, raid, are atrocious, he has even more contempt for them then he does for za Nazis. Not to mention the grotesque stereoptypes and accents that he ascribes to CGI forged, clwnish characters is in the Star Wars movies is just plain apalling. Hense I restate my question? Is he a rascist or just dumb? |
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1. dumb+racist 2. you are thinking too much? |
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yeah i did notice star wars was a little pro-human... just the token wookie |
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George Lucas? what about Walt Disney, and/or Carl Barks? |
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what about the lord of the rings movies?? isnt that racism? |
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the snake like trade federation sport oriental accents, the slimy second hand shop owners have mediterainean accents, the total idiot Jar Jar has a carribean accent...and you have a horrid scootish one :p |
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definetly..the way they ape and pillage myths and legends and fairy tales of other cultures..absolutely... |
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hmm..I am yet to hear discernable fluctuations of accents as such..or racial stereotypes...maybe all the orks being dark and swarthy...but they still sound consistent with everyone else around them... |
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or maybe we're just being paranoid. or maybe racism is so well worked into our pathetic western culture that even we ourselves fail to see it. |
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Raiders I think is probably less racist than Temple Of Doom, which was hugely criticised on release for it's racial stereotypes. I think it's less deliberate mocking, more ignorant Hollywood scriptwriting. Jar Jar on the other hand, I thought was pretty fucking diabolical. |
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Yeah, I'd say so. Its perhaps a little subtle and 'soft' racism, but yeah. Its striking with Jar Jar. |
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why is that? never really thought about jar jar as anything else that one character too much.. |
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the only humans that "work" for sauron come from the south and look at them... they are so "islamic" (tremember in the two towers when frodo and sam are close to be discovered by a human soldier... he is totally islamic look |
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yup by Raiders I meant the whole trilogy...Temple takes a swipe at both Chineses and Indians in a single ham fisted back hand..or maybe it just becomes very obvious with the ultra PC Matrix series |
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while humans from rohan and gondor are so nordic |
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on a lighter note, my county is called Vestfold. Wonder where Tolkien got that name from.. |
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yeah come to think of it I did notice the newly redecorated attire to make it look islamic, but I tought I just imagined it..hmmm....it was different in the first movie... |
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If every film made was supposed to be non-racist... we wouldn't have ace films like Bad Boys now would we? I think it was also just the time it was made. |
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MARY pOPPINS is racist against Cockneys and English wank workers! |
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cup-o-tea |
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Nlogax: Haha! I haven't read the books, but has he got Hordaland too? Who cares if George Lucas is a racist! Nowadays racists are as hated as they hate other people! I say we should love everyone (especially female models!)! |
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and why are all the hobbits from Gloucestershire, where I live? The first scenes in The Fellowship I could've seen down at my local pub. |
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are you taking a piss, boy? of course not! why the fuck would hordaland be mentioned anywhere else but in the satanic bible? :) yay. |
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I get the sarcasm... but i dont like to see in these days how in a important movie the again relate the evil with the islamic or blacks anyway tolkien wrote it that way (he was more describin these men as black rather than islamic though) |
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You've been watching too much Chasing Amy. Seriously though. There does seem an underlying hint of racism. The lack of positive black role-models in Star Wars is a start. Lando Calrissian doesn't count. He was just some git who sold them out then changed sides when he got the chance. The only other black person I can remember (who wasn't covered in fur) is a black woman who was actually a slave to Jabba the Hutt. The accents thing is true too. I don't know if it's a deliberate thing or just lazy scripting. Considering the amont of Nazi's he kills off though.......... |
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Lando wasn't black in the books. |
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As ia any film with someone doing an english accent. Is it really that hard an accent to imitate without making us sound like we're swallowing our tongues? |
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I haven't read the books. So it would've been an entirely white movie then? |
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seriously, I don't think he's a racist. I kinda fancy him being a rapist. |
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It's the beard ain't it? |
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hmm good point. that's probably it. I'll need to shave now. yes. |
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Most evil characters in starwars have brittish accents whilst most goodguys have american accents. |
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as far as I've heard from friends (haven't read the books myself), Tolkien describes those people as being essentially black in his books, so Jackson is being a bit ambiguous. |
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this is true for a LOT of American films. |
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in fact. in the books they are described as black, but never islamic.... and how strange that in these times, after 9-11 and after attacking afghanistan and previously to the attack of iraq we see this movie with an islamic face for evilness |
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Yeah hehe! People with british accents in movies is often a bit smarter too. |
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I think the "Haradrim" looked more like Japanese samurai's and not islamik at all. |
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ok if you look at the clothes... but did you see those beautiful faces? |
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He's not just a racist... Jar Jar Binks was only thrown in to make a mockery of mentally handicapped people. |
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Yeah and Jabba the Hut mocks fat people who smokes pipe and Han Solo mocks people who like lether boots and Queen Amidala mocks hairdressers. |
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Darth Vader makes fun of people with astma. |
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(Don't feel bad about that last point personally, flea. Most people realize that Jar Jar is just a stereotype. In reality we know you retards are a lot funnier... it was sad and immoral how they made Jar Jar portray retards as completely failing to be humorous. If retards were able to mentally understand that they were being stereotyped by hollywood in such a way, they'd water their plants with hot coffee, sing loud rediculous songs in public places, and generally prove hollywood wrong.) |
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I think flea is prejudiced against George Lucas... |
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agree. |
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I think you are prejudiced against flea... ;D |
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no, I think flea is prejudiced against The_Funkmaster... |
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I don't think they look islamic either. beautiful faces..? how is that particularily islamic..? |
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I think they look islamic, I mean, brown skin, dark eyes, the shape of the eyes, shape of nose and face.... its true that could be any other race, but its closer to be arabic than to be german.... so closer that when I saw them I though wow, the bad guys are kind of islamic, just like bush told me I said beautiful, just because I thought they were... not because I think that islamic are speciall beautiful... so dont give much importance to that |
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i always thought that star wars: episode one had some really racist connotations in it. I mean, didn't the bad guys have oriental accents? and Jar Jar? how fucking retarded was that? some dopey jamaican creature... |
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he's really short and wears jeans and flannel shirts all the time. I saw him about town a bunch, and he came into the shop at least once, though he was a patient of ours. I'd not call him a racist, I'm sure he's just lazy enough to pigeonhole anything in film to make it work though.... |
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