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What's your opinion on Euro? How has it affected your daily life? |
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my canadian dollar is worth shit, anyways, so i guess not much. =D |
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I don't use the Euro but I've heard that, in Ireland anyway, that some things are practically double their original price. |
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I've started to spend a lot more after the introduction of the euro here in Holland in comparison to the guilder we had before. Prices have also increased a lot ever since. I get the impression that the prices remained the same only the currency has changed (¤1,- = fl. 2,20). I'm used to the euro now though. If we would switch back to the guilder it woukd be strange. |
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Con - Probably just hearing how shit it is. |
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but do you also get paid a little bit more? |
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Hard to tell, when the euro was introduced I got another job so it's kinda hard to compare. |
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I really feel that we just should say yes and get it over with, cuz there isn't really anything we (Denmark and Sweden for example) can do now that the politics have made up their mind. |
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what is your opinion on this Phobez? |
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i voted yes |
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yes to euro? I must reckon that in spain everything is more expensive now... more than what salaries have increased |
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yes, but you have view it in a wider perspective. im afraid major companies will escape sweden... the swedish industry is so poor right now and the number of unemployed ppl will increase even more. |
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so paying a few cents more for an ice-cream or getting unemployed? |
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one thing I like about euro: its a way of "fighting" USA |
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anyway I would have also voted for the yes I was just trying to point some thoughts out |
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I didn't vote here in Sweden, cuz I kinda felt my opinion wasn't valid as i'm a "not 100% Swedish guy". But I would have voted yes. |
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either have some sort of verification or "test" for participants to fulfill before voting (a minimal level of basic knowledge on Euro). or leave the decision to the government, who has far more knowledge about this issue than the average "svensson", who voted no just because he's collecting coins or something equally stupid. |
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ahahaha.... true dat... |
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euro consequences: cons: - higher prices - reduced export (euro value too high) - more expensive import (euro taxes) - less jobs (they go to eastern europe) - paying for other countries' troubles - rules that may be unsuitable for your country are made by people in a different situation pros: - if you go to another euro country you don't have to convert your money (hurrah :( ) |
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Euro pros: Greater coordination of monetary affairs between European countries thus lowering export/import tariffs between european countries. This of course encourages trade inside the eurozone and reduces costs of small exporting companies. Reduce costs then you can raise salaries or employ more. Being a strong currency the euro prevents financial leakage (capital escaping to US for example) and companies/individuals can invest more in european buisness. Political advantage: euro increases bonds/ties between european countries than can no longer act alone when it comes to financial affairs. For example: france can't raise tariffs on german imports and cannot alow itslef to have a large budgetary deficit that would destabilize other european countries. (the euro is much more than a coin, its a coordinated financial system shared by many nations) Obviously the pro of not having to change your cash inside the eurozone. The argument against the eruo stipulating that it encourages delocalistaion to eastern countries is wrong as the euro does not directly influence salaries and national concerns such as minimum wage... More to come... |
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only way i was affected is that now i always carry lots of coins...and i hate that |
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Well I carry loads of coins around in the UK and France so no big difference here really. Why don't you put the little coins in one of those 2 litre bottles of Smirnof that pubs and bars buy? Then you get vodka smelling cash! Yummy. Reminds me of an Asterix but I can't remember which one... |
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Asterix and the gold cauldron? |
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prices have gotten higher, and i cant get as much as i used to with the old finnish mark..but i guess this is just part of the "growing pains"..and in the long-run it will pay off...atleast i hope so...and its also handy to shop online and compare prices.. |
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Hey, you couldn't send me a set of finnish euros could ya? You never seem to get them down here! |
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yeah prices have shot thru the roof but there are groups such as the consumer's organisation and others ( http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=235 , www.ripoffireland.org ) to combat that sort of thing - but it happened especially here due to the state of our economy at the time.. and it isn't at all as bad as it used to be in the beginning; things have evened out again. It's a bollox you stuck-up british bastards keep turning your noses up at it; the Irish do a lot of trade with the uk and it doesn't help to be trading with a currency the value of which is fluctuating when it could just as easily be the same. It's also a pain in the hole for the travelling consumer. |
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the prices are not very higher than three years ago |
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cons: about the only thing that has stayed the same is my wage, the rest has been steadily doubled,tripled and quadrupled in price. I can hardly afford the clothes on my back nowadays. Something like cauliflower for example: before the euro: ranging between fl. 1,25 ,- to 1,99 ,- now selling for (in the same store): Euro 2,50 ,- which is equal to a whopping fl. 5,50,-! The way this is going I'm gonna have to recycle my own pee and poo for food. pro's: "Greater coordination of monetary affairs between European countries thus lowering export/import tariffs between european countries. This of course encourages trade inside the eurozone and reduces costs of small exporting companies. Reduce costs then you can raise salaries or employ more." that sounds nice on paper but the reality is that companies still have all their products manufactured and shipped from all the countries where labour is cheap(asia,eastern europe) so they can make even more money than they did before. If it really was the way you described we wouldn't have this many job losses and cuts everywhere. The way I see it, it's just one step closer to globalization and that's really not a good thing imo. |
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Sweden won't be seeing for a while. |
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Ah but the delocalisation of companies and/or jobs going to eastern europeans hasn't got much to do with the euro: this process is happening in all developed nations that have to specialize in high-intelligence/qualification demanding research and development industries and sacrifice unqualifies manufacturing jobs. The solution is to specialise and abandon industries that require mass unskilled labour. |
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shit... they were pretty cool too! |
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"The solution is to specialise and abandon industries that require mass unskilled labour." Yes, but where will that leave the sizable portion of the population that consists of unskilled labourers that resides in developed Europe? Do they just have to wither and die, or move to eastern Europe? This is also the portion of the population that already has suffered a major financial blow a year after the introduction of the euro. The point is that every nation will always have a rather significant portion of the population that will fall into the category of "unskilled" labour. Dismissing that portion is like holding them in contempt. |
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