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how high/low is the faith level in the world nowadays? the more i think about it, the more i'm against religion - against preconceived religions, not beliefs in general... and all this paedophilia thing going on (it's always been there maybe, but still)... do you think religions will extinct some day in the future? maybe in a few centuries on some countries? |
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There are still many people who believe in religion..I dont think it would be a phase that would just stop-if people have faith then they will pass it on and religion/hope/faith will never die. |
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organized religion = shit |
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i saw a comercial for materials used to build buildings, and they said : for hotels, museums, houses.. monasterys... dear jesus! |
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religion is the cause of many wars. |
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Christianity is a hi-jacked offshoot of Judaism. They worship a Jew, and have heaped so much mythic symbolism upon this unfortunate man (most Christians, I'll be willing to wager, don't even know his real name), that Christianity is nine-tenths bunkum. That's why it's such a paradoxical, contradictory religion. It's not pure religion, it's not pure spiritualism. Most of the history of Christianity from the second millenium is comprised of greed and politics. |
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but jesus died for you! |
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Jesus died because he was a Jewish Freedom Fighter fighting Roman Colonialism. |
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I never beleived anything to do with religion, although some of the ideas I find fascinating in a fictional way, (like angels and demons,. what a cool concept) they're cool things to think about |
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NO HE PERFORMED MIRACLES AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD! |
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ok, who had any doubt this thread would turn into religious bashing? I'm not one to cry foul at a lot of stuff, but this is relatively offensive to hear you guys slag off on something so uncompassionatly. Jokes and not being serious I can handle, but when in the past someone has come in with a guns blazing "All niggers should die" then everyone goes nuts to attack that person. I wouldn't mind trying to explain some of my religious beliefs to you guys, but why do it if the response is going to be "organized religion = shit" |
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Was his real name Barney Rubble? |
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Many of the 'miracles' accounted for in the New Testement are there because of one thing - the Greeks. The Greeks were a very literal race, whilst the Hebrews were very metaphorical. What were metaphors suddenly becamse literal truth, and hence miracles. Take Lazarus, for instance. Lazarus was a member of Jesus' group. He got cold feet and left. Jesus visited him, gave him courage, and Lazarus rejoined again. Now we have that Lazarus literally died, and Jesus literally brought him back to life. |
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you're going to hell |
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Which brings us to another common misconception - that hell already exists. Hell isn't due to come into being until after Armageddon. Until then, Earth is Satan's Playground. |
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this is a repeat from yesterday, but if the bbc can get away with it so can i... I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. so I ran over and said "stop! don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?" He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?" He said, "Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off. |
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hey man, racism and sexism are looked down on now, gay bashing is on the way out, who are we to stop them from making fun of someone's religion? let them be.. ;) |
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I live in Central Florida (basically exactly the same as Alabama) and I can tell you that religion is going strong in the crotch of the Bible Belt. Fanatics. |
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Is geek-killing still acceptable? |
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i think the religion = war argument is a misconception. Most wars are over land and ownership etc. there may be a few religous wars, but then again religion has united many people . and also all religions are against wars, so u wudnt get muslims vs jews etc just for the sake of it, there is some other reason like land for the war |
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*cough*bush*cough* My God is better than your God. |
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Religion isn't Spirituality. The Land issue is part of the Religion in cases like Israel, the Crusades, the Conquistadors &tc |
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Personally I am a bit confused right now. There are currently two different informercials running selling videos about Jesus. In one of them he is a dark latino looking dude with a short shaggy beard and a curly mullet while the other one has got one that looks like Brad Pitt on a bad hair day, so which one is it? Which one is the true Jesus? btw the Brad Pitt looking dude also seems to be wearing dresses and clothes over the head that makes him look like a muslim woman. All this is way too confusing |
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parables are told to communicate understanding that would remain otherwise opaque. mistaking the parables for descriptions of an objective reality or rejecting the understanding because of the nature of the parables seem to be parallel errors. the arc of human history is a process by which we come to know who we truly are. don't arrest your search because of the failures of others. |
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I learned all that I could from Christianity, but you can only learn so much until its time to move on. A person who gains all their spiritualiy from just one religion is a person who is dead on the inside. |
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crowley would be happy with that statement |
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UZIM:AVATAR->AMAZING |
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yup. i can't do anything else but agree here plaidzebra. |
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the perfect religion? www.ts-adyar.org/theosophy.html |
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I added it to favorite to save it for when i get hopeless |
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if u use it only as an escape it's useless:) |
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i really dislike organized religion. I don't like the concept of cramming in someplace a certain time every sunday, or acting in a specific way that an ancient book (that has several interpretations mind you) tells you do. However, I do believe in a higher power, I just think it's fucking ridiculous that he/she/it would create us for the sole purpose of adoring and bowing to them. The ideas don't bother me - it's the shit that gets carried out in religion's name. I do believe strongly though, that if you do good things, good things will come of it. i believe in karma. sort of unsure about the reincarnation thing though.... |
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Well religion, the old ones, where based on suggestion cause people wasn't too intelligent. Science is attempts to know the actual truth, though now only based on psysical sensing. Theoretical science, filosophy and other goes further. Science drift into the occult little by little. |
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I see a middle ground where religion (which is interesting cos it's from the collective mind of mankind, sort of innate and full of knowledge, but also coloured by imagination and people who are confused), science and philosophy are all meeting up... Religion has been used to control people by appealing to their biggest fears, it is also full of primitive understanding of things and often misinterpreted, and also often enforced be mad men! But the essense of christianity, hinduism, islam, etc... is thoroughly good, and it's wierd how many of the concepts actually tie in with modern physics. I think we need a new religion! It is good in theory at least, it's been proven that a belief in God lowers yer risks of cancer, heart problems, depression, etc... by something like 3x I've read recently! And not everyone has the kind of mind that can figure out such difficult metaphysical concepts on their own anyway. So maybe some people are best just putting it down to blind faith... Personally - I very much believe in an underlying intelligence and eternity in all this cosmic order - And I do think of it as "God". |
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Just what we needed, another religion thread... All the organized religion bashers, especially Christianity bashers, always focus their attacks on the wrong details and make false assumptions. Blaming the church for its shortcomings isn't wrong.. it's necessary to keep it in check. the pedophilia problem wasd one of the bigger problems in recent memory. However to write off religion and Christianity in the process is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Every church misses the mark. To err is human. Even in the Bible itself, the apostle Paul repremands the churches he started for their faults and for starting early heresies. And this was in the first century! Is it any surprise that churches continue to fall short 2000 years later? The teachings of Christ and the fundamental messages are what's important, not denominations and specifics. These divisions are not ideal, but are necessary compromises made for a species who in their very nature will not agree on details. If people look at the basic messages of various faiths, inclusing Christianity, they will find alot more useful information on living and humanity than if they concentrate solely on 'church'. |
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see my last post. |
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religion is problematic only in the promotion of self limiting beliefs. participating in a religious faith *can* be useful in creating an understanding of the validity of each individual and an initiation into the awareness that reality is far more complex and subtle than our everyday physical experience might imply. yet at the realization that religion represents a self limiting belief, it should and must be abandoned. some of us depend on self limiting beliefs, for a while...sometimes you find stability and coherence in your chains, until you realize that you are in chains. who here is not operating self limiting beliefs? we all are. orthodoxy claims that jesus baked us all a cake, and we must only believe in this cake to taste eternal life. i say jesus gave us a recipe. then again, what authority do i have? none whatsoever. |
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free for christians... because everyone else is going to hell. |
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orthodoxy claims that jesus baked us all a cake yay! |
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It's just a bit fun, everything has been interpreted through different filters. Play nice kids, it'll end in tears...... |
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there's some people that consider interactions between individuals to be of a religious nature (with no recourse to some otherworldly deity) ... ie. there's all sorts of "rituals" or "rules of the game" we follow, what we consider mundane facial expressions etc. but which are strikingly absent in people suffering certain mental illnesses -> studies with people in mental institutions has shown that a lot can perceive the "game" if you like, but have an inability to play it (in extreme cases throwing faeces etc.) |
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in which sense society can be seen as dominated by religious practices [of this interpersonal nature]. but that's probably missing the point from this whole cake bizznizz |
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throwing shit? are you a mentalist Korben? |
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do not listen to jivver and korben they are trying to distract you with fancy talk and steal your cake |
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if you want me to be. but i think that would be missing the point. throws hunk of poo poo jivver dickers way |
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fleetmouse: "i faert in your general direction" |
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:: shields his cake from flying poo :: |
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:: and from farts as well :: :: considers purchasing holy tupperware :: :: oh wait, that farts too :: |
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fleet you talk shit most of the time. |
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I couldn't be bothered what you are really, you're talking rubbish. I do think you're stupid, your preaching is a bit silly. |
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