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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-08 04:40 [#00770480]
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Sorry man, this is another soppy "love-thread".....
I've been living in Lithuania now for 7 months, and met this girl a couple of months back. We've been dating, etc (!), pretty seriously ever since. I like her loads, man. She's sort of my ideal woman.
Thing is, I have to leave here in less than two months and return to the UK (I won't go into my reasons why, but I do HAVE to, there's no way I will be able to stay here beyond the middle/end of August).
I have been trying to persuade her that she should come with me. She has just finished her degree (in English language) and she has nothing much to do now. She is seriously considering it. However, British immigration policy is rather harsh on people from Central and Eastern Europe, and she seems to think that she won't be able to come over very easily at all.
I really don't want to leave her behind, but I can't stay here. She HAS to come with me! But she might not be able to! FUCK! And in my experience, long distance relationships just don't work. If she stays here, we'd hardly ever see each other because it's really expensive to travel between the UK and Lithuania by plane, and it takes almost three solid days travelling by coach.
What am I going to do? Anyone else been in a similar situation? Frigging hell.
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xceque
on 2003-07-08 04:45 [#00770486]
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I'd say that the first step is to find out exactly what the processes and policies are towards immigration specific to your situation. Get all the legal details you can and see how you can deal with each of them. Big problems are always easiest to cope with if you break them down into little problems and approach each of them in a relaxed manner, without panic.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:45 [#00770487]
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Tell her to enter illegally. The government will give her a shit load of money too and you can live like Phat cats. I'm serious. At least she has a knowledge of English. Failing that you come over first and search for jobs for her.
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cirrius logic
on 2003-07-08 04:45 [#00770488]
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If she wants to come with you then look into the issue of living in the UK.
If you both really want to be in the UK and it is that hard to for her to gain entry to the uk, consider marriage.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-08 04:46 [#00770489]
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if you both are decent people, and dont look like a shabby immigrant or something.. (no offence) you've got a nice chance theyll let her in
you'd better check the british ambassy in the country you live now... they might help you
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:47 [#00770490]
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I'd start by checking with the British consulate/embassy in Vilnius. There must be some sort of visa application process?
Once you get her here (if you can get her here 'course), marry her.
It'll probably be much more difficult than that though.
Alternatively, sew up her eyes and lips. Seems to be the latest craze among immigrants wanting to stay here.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-08 04:54 [#00770498]
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Thanks for the advice man.
Hmmm....... marriage? I don't think I could do that, man! We haven't known each other for very long. I don't want to do anything totally rash.
Yes, we should talk to the British Embassy in Vilnius.
Does anybody here have any prior experience/knowledge of anything like this? i.e. have you ever worked/lived in the UK legally/illegally as a foreign immigrant? Or do you know anyone who has?
As Giginger pointed out, she DOES have a degree in English. In fact, she speaks the best English out of any foreign non-native speaker I've ever met.
I was thinking she could train to be a teacher in the UK, because I know the government now gives you 6 grand to train. However, a non-EU national doesn't get the grant and in fact has to pay over 7 grand for the training. Wanky-wank-wank-wank.
Are there any millionaires here who fancy giving me a shitload of cash just so that I can bring a girl back to the UK with me? :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:54 [#00770499]
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That teacher angle would work a treat mate.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 04:56 [#00770503]
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If I win the lottery on Saturday, its a done deal!
:D
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:58 [#00770506]
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Can I have a laptop please?
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 05:00 [#00770508]
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For you Mr Giginger....anything!
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 05:01 [#00770510]
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This is where I half expect from you a topic to appear entitled "If Jedi Chris wins the lottery what do you want him to buy you?"
hehhehe
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xceque
on 2003-07-08 05:02 [#00770514]
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I know a couple who moved to the UK from different countries, her from Poland and him from Syria and because of that they've spent years applying for certificates and visas and whatnot. They've raised a family in the time it's taken for all the applications, interviews and assorted paperwork to run it's course. And all through that time there was constant worries of deportation if any applications were refused.
I doubt that a Lithuanian would have anywhere near as much trouble but the best thing to do would be to enquire what your options are from someone who's job it is to provide such details. The aforementioned embassy would be the place to start asking.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-08 05:04 [#00770517]
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hah.. now that would be something ey?
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jiggalo bob
on 2003-07-08 05:09 [#00770526]
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tie her up and gag her and put her in ur suitcase. then she'll be in the uk and realise what a good decision she made coming over!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 05:44 [#00770556]
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Bless :D Back at ya baby.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-08 05:47 [#00770558]
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Sorry man, this is another soppy "love-thread".....
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-09 06:15 [#00771733]
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Thanks for the advice chaps.
I'll email the embassy people as soon as I find the time. I'm sure there must be some way of getting it sorted. Got to be positive!
Jiggalo Bob's idea is a good un, might try it actually.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-09 06:43 [#00771742]
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i agree with xceque.. take some time to do some research.. you're obviously very serious about everything and have strong feelings for this girl, which means anything really can become a reality as long as you work at it.
*positivity *corrective thinking *proactivity
good luck mate! please give us an update when you can..
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-09 08:13 [#00771811]
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Thanks man.
I'm positive that she could come to the UK with me if we just follow the correct procedures, etc. She's something of a pessimist though....... so, I'm trying to make her think positively!
I'll update on the situation if/when anything happens........! :/
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-08-01 05:38 [#00803536]
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Oh man......
Still haven't sorted this little problemette out! I'm trying though.....
Giginger, what's this about the UK government handing out cash to immigrants?! Is it really that easy?
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:18 [#00895666]
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OK man,
Sorry that I only seem to post on here nowadays in a desperate attempt for advice..... :)
This situation is STILL getting to me! I've been back in the UK for six weeks now (more's the pity) and my girlfriend is coming here VERY soon. I have got all the visitor's visa business sorted out.
When she gets here, she wants to find work. I can just about afford to support her and am quite happy and willing to do so. But she won't let me. I think she feels too guilty about being a burden, and maybe she's also worried about being bored sitting around all day waiting whilst I work/study.
Problem is, Lithuania only joins the EU on the 1st May. On that date Britain is allowing the people from the new EU member states to work here immediately.
In the meantime, she can't legally work here. I've checked it all out with the Home Office, and the only thing she can do is to study here and then get a student's visa. However, studying as a non-EU national here is prohibitively expensive, so that's really out of the question.
An employer can only get a work permit for her if they can prove that they can't get an EU person in the job, and I really can't see an employer going to all that trouble just to do me and my girlfriend a favour.
I have asked in LOADS of places (bars, cafes, restaurants, shops) if they would take someone on cash-in-hand, and they have ALL said no, that they only employ people legally, i.e. through the books.
So, I was wondering, does anyone have any advice? Anyone been in the same boat? Any ideas of how to find "cash in hand work"?
No funny comments about "prositution" please, I've heard it all before! :P
And, before it's suggested again, I'd gladly marry her but I really don't think she would want to take such a drastic step (I have kind of half-suggested it to her).
HELP!!!!!! I need her to stay with me for the next year while I study. I can't go back to Lithuania until I finish at the end of next summer, and I really want her here
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:19 [#00895667]
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with me. HELP!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-10-09 06:22 [#00895671]
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shit...she's moving to UK for you...she's willing to work, and she hates being a burden...FUCK MAN YOUR LUCKY AS HELL
keep her outta drugs and bad socialization and she'll be fine
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:25 [#00895678]
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Well, when you put it like that, it does make me feel lucky...... :)
But I am worried that she's just going to come here and then decide to leave if she doesn't find a job. I can't stand the idea of being with her again, only to have it cruelly ripped away from me.
Maybe I am thinking too far ahead and should just enjoy it while it lasts and see how things turn out?
Advice, anyone, please :)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-10-09 06:30 [#00895681]
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enjoy it while it lasts...remember that some bastards out there *cough* are without any girlfriend, often because they used too much time thinking about the relationsship than the girl...look...just take the ride...maybe it'll end up good, maybe bad...who cares...it's better than noone at all
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:33 [#00895682]
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I'm quite sure you're right. I'll try to enjoy it while it lasts I guess. As you say, there's no telling which way it will go; good or bad.
But it would be so helpful if I could find her a job. I really can't seem to find anything at all :(
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:34 [#00895684]
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By the way Junktion, while I was in Lithuania I met quite a lot of Danish people and, no kidding, I found them to be the friendliest people I've ever met! It's made me really want to visit the place. Without exception, every Dane I met was really, really nice, friendly and unpretentious. Is this a national trait?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-10-09 06:36 [#00895687]
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yeah...we are bastards in our own country though, but outside we are helpful ;)
But sure..if you want to visit Denmark, you should visit Aalborg instead of Copenhagen. It's a more social place (and where I live).
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-09 06:37 [#00895688]
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get married problem solved
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-10-09 06:37 [#00895689]
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Cool....... I reckon I'll definitely try to get out to Denmark at some point in the future :)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-10-09 07:28 [#00895745]
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year...it's just over seas...if you take a boat to Frederikshavn, there only a ~30 minute traintrip to Aalborg
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