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offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 08:55 [#00625431]
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so the isness has not really been discussed here. why so?
well here is my review.

it's really a different album. like, there is no fsol OR
other artist that would have released an album like that.
the isness left me feeling all 'wft?!' at first. but i must
say i really really like it now after a few listenings.

the flute, sitar and (steel) guitars remind me of progrock,
but then again not. my bf claims he keeps hearing other
songs in the isness (especially in mello hippo disco show
and galaxial pharmaceutical).

it's a very springful album in my opinion. very organic and
'airy'. also a very cool album when one is stoned :>

i think it has same kind of emotional stuff as 'splinter' by
sneaker pimps. it can also have something to do with the
similar voices :o

as a fsol freak i must say i was terrified to listen to the
isness after all the negative stuff going around about it.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-03-31 08:57 [#00625434]
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i love FSOL, but i don't have this album. i'm kinda waiting
forr the let down just incase therre is one.

btw will Xltronic be coverring FSOL


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 09:01 [#00625437]
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i will send a dead racoon to phobs if not


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 09:06 [#00625451]
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the isness was discussed to death when it came out,
neetta... just do a search for "isness". glad you like it, i
thought it was a great album myself. there's a reason why
they didn't release it under their FSOL name (except in
america cos they were forced); i'm sure the next FSOL album
will be more like what we're used to from them, but
obviously informed by their new sense of instrumentation and
psychedelic overtones.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 09:10 [#00625460]
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i did a search dear :o

yes, i can also see why they only had that little 'produced
by fsol' text on the album.. but it's just a great album.
and yes, i have the american import. was the non-am release
different? i payed my ass off because of the 'import' tag :(


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 09:12 [#00625463]
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KRHM official note: i typoed while doing search! (issnes)
(i am a stupid foreign girl)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 09:17 [#00625472]
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ah there you go.. "isness" should get you plenty of matches
now :)

i don't know the difference between european and american
versions except the EU version is credited properly to
Amorphous Androgynous, not FSOL. does finland not get many
cd's, do they all have to be imported?


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 09:21 [#00625479]
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i should think we get quite alot of cds... after all we are
no longer the periferia of europe :D but i never saw isness
anywhere, until that one import cd in a usually crappy
record shop. the cd is very nice though - like the needle
hole camera art :)


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-31 09:51 [#00625523]
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i think it's crap.
after listening to it i felt cheated that i actually paid
money for it. i should have downloaded it and saved the 20
bucks.

even crediting it as amorphous androgynous instead of FSOL
is misleading. it sounds nothing like the first amorphous
androgynous.


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-03-31 09:57 [#00625533]
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I <3 Dead cities, it's one of the best albums ever IMO,
haven't gotten into the isness yet.


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-03-31 09:58 [#00625534]
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I'd love for XLTRONIC to cover FSOL and orbital :)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-03-31 10:02 [#00625538]
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for a second i though you meant coverr as in do one of
theirr songs... i was verry confused.

but yeah so do i, i think it will *prrays*


 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-03-31 10:17 [#00625554]
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Why are the tracklistings on the American and Europe
versions different??


 

offline magiker from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-03-31 10:27 [#00625576]
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I don't like this album.


 

offline the_crier from The Town Of No Cheer (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 10:34 [#00625588]
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yes you do.


 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-03-31 11:36 [#00625663]
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The Crier got you there!!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 11:40 [#00625671]
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i really really REALLY like the album. infact i think i will
listen to it right now.

evolume: what makes it so crap? should every album from same
people sound the same? i don't get it..



 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-03-31 11:41 [#00625673]
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What is your favorite song off there Neetta??
Mine is Divinity


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 11:41 [#00625674]
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neetta: you should read some of the discussions we've
already had on this album.. some people seem to just hate it
cos it's not techno, others gave it a chance and just
thought it was poorly done no matter what kind of music it's
trying to be.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 11:46 [#00625683]
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yes i did read some of those, people really executed that
poor album :/
i just wanted to know how was it crap.. i think it was good
production, good musicians, some of my favourite instruments
and nice composition.. ok it's not too progressive on the
composite side but the sounds etc. just make such a good
complex.. even if it is not someones '2 cents' i would not
say its CRAP. its such an ugly thing to say, ' i did not
like it' would do.

i must say that so far i like galaxial pharmacuetical most.
there is one part on that song that is just so awesome ..
rrr. RRR :)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 11:59 [#00625697]
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that's my fav song on the album too :) overall it's a really
lovely album (i even wrote an essay for one of my classes
about it). it's their loss if they can't enjoy it.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-31 12:05 [#00625711]
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does nothing for me

gimme some more accelerator and another 50 remixes of papua
new guinea anyday :)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 12:06 [#00625713]
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do you consider yourself boring or am i just projecting


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-31 12:12 [#00625725]
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because i don't like the isness?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 12:16 [#00625731]
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more along the lines of the 2nd comment


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-31 12:21 [#00625736]
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yes, i am! :)


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-31 13:16 [#00625794]
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well mostly i think its crap for 2 reasons:
1. What i love about all other FSOL releases is the sort-of
"urban sprawl" sound; that futuristic, blade runner,
cyber-ambient sound. so naturally when they released a new
album, i thought it would at least carry over some of that
feeling. of course not all albums from one artist need to
sound the same, and no two of their albums do. But, the
isness doesn't even sound like the same band. therefore i
felt cheated, or tricked into buying it. this is a prime
reason why i seldom buy things before downloading them.
guess i learned my lesson.
2. the second reason i can't abide this album is that i just
have never cared for that world music sitar and panpipe
sound. just personal preferance. whenever i hear it i
think of the character Tim Robbins played in High Fidelity.
that music just seems made for the new-age steven segal
ponytail wearing space healer people.

i'm glad some people like it, i just hope that their future
projects stay away from that hindu crap.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-31 13:21 [#00625810]
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another great thing i like about FSOL that was not apparent
on the isness:

they are very skilled at using samples. the only other band
that i can think of that uses samples like they do is
Orbital. they are really good at writing whole songs based
on one sample. Dead Cities is a good example where they use
Rachel's Song from Blade runner soundtrack and that ennio
morricone flute sample.
again, this is the kind of thing i was hoping for on the
isness.



 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 15:13 [#00626071]
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Now That's What I Call Xenophobia, Vol. 1!

p.s. about samples, didn't you read the liner notes? they
sampled tons, and in the same way they've ALWAYS sampled,
from accelerator to dead cities. this makes me think you
didn't even try to get into it, though you're welcome to not
like the style of music.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-03-31 18:58 [#00626417]
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I liked some of this album but overall it just didn't
interest, I was aware that it was completely different than
their previous albums (of which i only heard isdn) and was
expecting something different but it just sounded to similar
to many things Ive already heard. Some songs I did like
quite a bit (galaxial pharmaceutical being one of my
favorites) and I liked the art work a lot too. Overall its
hard for me to say how much I like it.


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2003-03-31 19:56 [#00626452]
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All I've listened to is Dead Cities, which has put me off
FSOL completely. Painfully average imo


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-31 21:03 [#00626468]
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you're right, i haven't listened to it more than about 5
times.
and i didn't look at the liner notes.
maybe if i listen to it more it will grow on me but since
the album is such torture for me to hear, that probably
won't happen.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 21:11 [#00626475]
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i think the papua new guinea remixes were their weakest
stuff.

evolume, yes thanks for reasoning. but first of all they use
the flute and sitar sutff imo quite differently than i have
heard them used before

and everything tits said :D

machnieofgod: it sounds like what other stuff?


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-31 21:17 [#00626479]
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and WHY png remixes aren't so good:

because the original track is way better than the remixes.
and the original is so heavily sampled from that dead can
dance song i sometimes feel that is already a remix of some
kind .. and i never got the point of remix albums.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-31 22:31 [#00626524]
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I heard 'Galaxial Pharmaceutical' and really liked it -
especially the part with the cuckoo clocks. I'll have to
borrow it from my friend and listen to the whole thing.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-31 22:31 [#00626525]
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plus all the PNG remixes are done by outsiders except for
the translations ep.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-31 22:52 [#00626533]
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This album's nothing but songs and asses!

;)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-01 00:07 [#00626588]
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and an album needs what more? :)


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-01 00:09 [#00626591]
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It needs more sitar... :D


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-01 00:14 [#00626595]
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no it doesn't you silly cat in a cup :)

i assume you like the album then?


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-01 00:39 [#00626609]
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Pretty much. Gets a tad overbearing on the "psychedelia",
but it's well produced and flows nicely musically as an
album.


 

offline Kill Switch from Belgium on 2003-04-01 04:02 [#00626825]
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hey na hey nana,... ;)
Divinity is divine.
It's not the average fsol sound (thats why they released it
as AA I guess) but its a great album.

Anyone heard the first AA, Tales of Ephidrina?


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-04-01 04:05 [#00626834]
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it's dated. very dated.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-04-01 04:29 [#00626867]
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axel FSOLey


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-04-01 04:36 [#00626881]
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Haha!

isness = yet to hear it.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-01 09:02 [#00627284]
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who is that?


 

offline Kill Switch from Belgium on 2003-04-01 09:49 [#00627364]
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Brother in law of Eddy Murphy.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-17 00:55 [#00654331]
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ok so i gave it another listen today...

still crappy.

this album does have an unprecedented effect on me though.
It is the only album i have ever owned that makes me
hostile... not hostile like pantera or NIN make a person,
but hostile like boiling rage and vengence. Its that flute
on track 6 that really puts me over the edge. I cannot
stand this album. it makes me very angry. I am now
realizing that they deliberately misled and decieved me. I
feel like the butt of some great joke. i want my money back
and if they ever come to this town, I AIM TO GET IT!


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-17 04:44 [#00654545]
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i have this album too, it has a great sleeve. have you got
mello hippo radio show, or whatever it is called? very
limited release, with different versions of certain tracks
from the album.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-17 08:03 [#00654765]
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It's to radically non-FSOL. I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE
lifeforms. Dead Cities gives me goosebumps - it oozes
talent. And ISDN is has such a dirty funk - you can't help
but resist.

Isnes.....I don't get the same vibe here. It's a FAR cry
from Tales of Ephidrena. That was one sweet mindfuck.


 


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