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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 04:55 [#00491454]
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what is this ? i think that's complete bullshit...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 04:59 [#00491455]
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satanstornade is actually pretty good
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:03 [#00491457]
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aw come on. listening to this i thought "wow, gantz graf is normal"
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-12-26 05:07 [#00491458]
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it is NOISE, nothing less nothing more.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:08 [#00491459]
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It is very good, although almost joyous compared to other some merzbow.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:08 [#00491460]
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hmm, thats weird hehe, i dont like gantz graf that much
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:11 [#00491461]
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I remember people saying (when GG came out) that it "makes no sense" and is "just noise". Then Satanstornade came out on warp and I really laughed in anticipation of thousands of warp-lovers who are completely baffled by hearing it and saying "But, surely, this is not music!!!"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:14 [#00491462]
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has anybody of you listened to it more than once ??
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:15 [#00491463]
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You're kidding, right? I have over 30 merzbow releases and have listened to all of them more than once.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:16 [#00491464]
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Weso³ych Œwi¹t, Steamtank
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:16 [#00491465]
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But, OK, you're a sadist, maybe you need to be a masochist to like this kind of music (lame joke, I know).
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:17 [#00491466]
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Haha, it is hard to spell polish with such a keyboard, eh?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:17 [#00491467]
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when satanstornade came out i was listening to that one minute (or so) long sample on warp site for more than an hour continuosly
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:17 [#00491468]
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Or maybe it just comes out that way for me because I don't have a proper font installed.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:18 [#00491469]
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Hahaha, tolstoyed, great answer.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:21 [#00491471]
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yes meho.... steam should get it with the right font too...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:21 [#00491472]
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has anyone maybe bought satanstornade ???
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:22 [#00491473]
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i thought they picked the best sample for that, but actually i prefer track 1 and 4
especially 4th starts great
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:23 [#00491474]
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I have it downooaded off slsk, no warp distro in my country.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:23 [#00491475]
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i have
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:24 [#00491476]
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Really? I thought track three had the best start. Track 4 just kicks the door in and takes you by storm, no?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:24 [#00491477]
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i just can't believe that they are making money with something like this... or even trying to make money... i can't say i could make something like THIS myself... but playing aorund with heavy distortion and some cool edit tricks i could make some noise too
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:27 [#00491479]
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Dude, merzbow/akita has over two hundred releases out there. So, there definitely is an audience for his music. Plus, if you took time to listen to some of the other noise, you'd probably understand what makes him stick out. I think that Warp did this just to show that they are strong enough to be able to present something really out there to their already stereotyped audience, without having to worry about low sales.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:29 [#00491480]
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hehe, track 3 has a pretty normal start
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:29 [#00491481]
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i'm just afraid this is the future.... i don't want to hear satan when i'm shoping in the mart.... this has gone too far...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:30 [#00491482]
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Maybe the track sequence is different on my CD. The track I am talking about has some almost rhythmic breaks at the beginning before going all out and attacking.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:30 [#00491483]
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actually, when i first heard that sample on warp i thought this is really wicked
now that i listened to the whole thing i actually find it quite melodic
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:31 [#00491484]
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Sadist: I actually agree with you. Turning Akita's music into yet another commodity, a trendy thing would be horrendous. However, as long as he makes music as extreme as this, we're still far from that point.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:31 [#00491485]
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track 3 on album its titled track 5
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:32 [#00491486]
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that's what i mean... people get used to this and when they hear some melodical stuff they say "booooring"
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:32 [#00491487]
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It is quite melodic. Haswell has been using some samples that sound to me as distorted rock loops. That second track in particular. It's almost a bubblegum-pop version of merzbow.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:33 [#00491488]
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yes....but there will be something new in the future and the things we call "extreme" now, will become "normal"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:33 [#00491489]
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one thing is certain-this musi isnt that great if you listen to it at low volume :)
perhaps i'll get over that after i give it a bit more listening :)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:34 [#00491490]
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Tolstoyed, well, that's of no help as I have no idea if it was properly tagged on slsk.
Sadist: But, come on, I am a big merzbow fan and I still enjoy melodic stuff.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:36 [#00491492]
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you do, me too, but a few people maybe not...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:36 [#00491493]
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Sadist: well, true, however, merzbow's music has been called extreme for the best part of the last 20 years. He just holds nothing back.
Tolstoyed: well, volume is important when it comes to merzbow, but it's not everything, there's a lot of fine detail in there that would be interesting on low volume too.
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-12-26 05:37 [#00491494]
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does anyone recognized the the warp lp and cd number ? ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:37 [#00491495]
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here's a funny fact i cant prepare myself to really like autechre and i have about 6 or 7 of their albums-they just sound "cold" to me
this satanstornade thing is totally different-i liked it the first time i heard it
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:37 [#00491496]
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Well, what's the problem with that? To each their own, I say. If you like melodies and have no interst to listen to Merzbow whatsoever, well, I will try to explain my views to you but ultimately will respect yourt choice. And vice-versa, if you like atonal or noisy stuff only, you definitely are missing out a lot, but, hey, that's your choice.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:38 [#00491497]
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Of course: 666 and proud.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:39 [#00491498]
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No shit? Well, I can relate to that to an extent. Autechre at first do sound cold and machinic, but are in fact very complex and even organic at spots...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:40 [#00491499]
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im kind of affraid to get into this merzbow or satanstornade like music too much, because i might miss too much of other stuff that is being released
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-12-26 05:40 [#00491500]
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sure... but i think this has some psychological consequences...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:41 [#00491501]
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only autechre thing i can say i like (conditionaly) are the peel sessions and confield
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:43 [#00491502]
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Tolstoyed: no, man, get everything that you like. There's so much good music out there that it is hard to keep track of everything, that's true, but still, it depends on your preferences, no? If you, like me, need to have more noisy stuff, why stop yourself. It's not like all those records are the same...
Sadist: maybe, but who cares, I don't go around analyzing people for their reasons of listening to the music...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-26 05:44 [#00491503]
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Well, confield IS the best, it's the least machinic of all. But I really, really like all of their stuff. It's just so complex, as i already said...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:46 [#00491504]
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hehe, i just realised-that first track on satanstornade is only 3 minutes long-radio friendly
perhaps this track was ment to be broadcasted by radio stations :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:47 [#00491506]
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least mechanical-good description :)
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-12-26 05:48 [#00491507]
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it could be used for a flamethrower-commercial
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 05:48 [#00491508]
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actually, wait you said machinic-thats even better :)
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