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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-04-15 12:34 [#00175263]
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Hmm.... recently I got a few Merzbow Cds from a buddy and I didnt really know what to think of them. I enjoy having them in my large collection, and Ill get a few more of his stuff next week I reckon.... anyone else got any comments? NOISE.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-15 14:01 [#00175356]
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Play them LOUD! Or even better: go see Merzbow live!
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-04-15 14:48 [#00175434]
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i don't know i foubd his music very harsh
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-15 15:34 [#00175522]
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Of course its hars, its NOISE!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-15 15:44 [#00175541]
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i own a couple merzbow cds i hardly ever listen to em though. noise rarely ever impresses me. it doesn't seem like it would take too much effort to produce. I have done live noise shows before and they were much easier to do than live music. Merzbow IS the king of noise though.
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Narkotic
from United States on 2002-04-15 17:39 [#00175797]
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i think its made to be enjoyed as a live experience as well... unfortunatly i'm not too experienced w/ merzbow, i saw him live before i heard any of his albums, and the live experience was very interesting.. i tried to duplicate it with one of his albums but its just like listening to a data CD in analog mode... not interesting
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-15 17:41 [#00175800]
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saw him life a week ago, it was awsome (and damn loud), like a hurricane.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-15 17:47 [#00175816]
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I've seen him twice! The first time it sounded like I was inside a sliding glacier
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-15 17:54 [#00175840]
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and he's a hottie!!
besides only yaps can have this freezing glance... he presented a 50 CD Box but noone dared to ask anything afterwards
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-04-15 23:23 [#00176463]
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Hmmm my Merzbow Cds are good to me! I enjoy them and would love to see him live!
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-04-16 00:15 [#00176620]
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does anyone have the "Rectal Anarchy" album? It's a Merzbow/Gore Beyond Necropsy collaboration...
i ordered about a year ago, haven't got it yet.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 12:18 [#00177391]
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are you refering to the ones i hooked you up /w? honestly you do have to be in mood to listen to merzbow...preferably a very angsty depression...or when it's raining/snowing...or when you wanna trip HARD. merzbow is a exploration of noise...chaos theroy musically expressed. there is a definate beauty in the random. I had to subject my friends, and whole cities (especially seattle traffic jams) to loud ass merzbow, and they all get something out of it (for the traffic jams, it mostly pisses ppl off).
merzbow is very japan...and demonstrates many aspects of their culture...especially the whole "everything is an art" motiff they strongly excersie. i'm runnign blanks on explaing this, but it's very simmular to oigami, or kendo.
anyways, that's what i get out of it...i'd hate for you not to like him at all...did i give you "a perfect pain?" i don't remember...that whole day/night was a complete haze, and i constantly fought to stay awake...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-16 12:32 [#00177425]
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hmmm... i have those autechre remixes and i can't even listen to those..... i don't think merzbow is for me
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 12:40 [#00177451]
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HOLY SHIT! you have those ae remixes! me want!
what are the tracks named? times?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-16 12:43 [#00177459]
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merzbow ecobondage (sutechre remix) and house of kaya remix by autechre (but i don't know if that's a legit one...
i have them on mp3, mind
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 12:47 [#00177471]
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merzbow reigns supreme
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 12:49 [#00177474]
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I have here an essay written on japanese noise/ merzbow, a very highbrow, postgraduate student style, with a lots of Derrida and Deleuze/ Guatarri namedropping but i'm not sure where I could post it for you guys to read...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 12:50 [#00177477]
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Sentinel: are you sure about that house of kaya, as on the Merz remix album that one is remixed by Jim O'Rourke if my memory has not failed me
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-16 12:58 [#00177502]
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no i'm not sure at all, it's how i found the track on soulseek: remixed by autechre...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-04-16 13:00 [#00177510]
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I think you need to feel the audiovibrations through your body to enjoy it. Headphones don't work...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 13:01 [#00177511]
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this is a long shot but: does it have these wailing syren-like noises at the beginning and a lot of cut-out silences like your headphones jack just slid out of the diskman? If it does, than it's that JO'R remix..
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-16 13:03 [#00177516]
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yep those sirens are there! as are those silences. damn not autechre then :(
also the track length is 4'13
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 13:10 [#00177527]
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oh, that's the one, that's JO'R, allright. One of the less successful on that Scumtron remix album: you should check out Pan Sonic's (they still were Panasonic at the time I think) and Rehberg & Bauer's remixes, they kill, but akita's own two tracks on that album (eat beat eat 1 and 2) are total massacre and the second one (#1 BTW) starts right after Ae remix, without any pause and that's just such a fucking shock...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-16 13:13 [#00177532]
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alrite, think i might give it a shot. thanks!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 13:13 [#00177534]
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thanks for the insight! it doens't sound like ae at all...welll it kinda reminds me of gantz graf...w/o the pauses
this ecobondage track does sound ligetamite...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 13:16 [#00177539]
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well it is, haven't you heard Scumtron? Oh, no you haven't, just checked your list...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-04-16 14:07 [#00177688]
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Well I still like these merzbow cds.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 14:11 [#00177699]
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me too, man, me too every merz fan should check out joseph Suchy's debut album: treated guitar noise from hell but with a real difference, check this out for his label ovdecare
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-04-16 14:13 [#00177707]
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I shall I shall...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 14:17 [#00177733]
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that album of his really knocked me out, everyone into power electronics should check it out
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-04-16 14:47 [#00177848]
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sautechre other cher
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 14:50 [#00177855]
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eh?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-16 14:54 [#00177878]
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hmmm. So whats your favorite Merzbow track? I cant remember the name but i like the one that goes,
"SCREEEEEEEEEGHHHHGHHHGHHHBUUUGHHHHHSRCRRRRREEEEEEEEEGHOOOO OBUUGGGGscreeeskweeeeeeEEEEGURRRRGHGHGHUUURRRROOOOOOOOschre eeeeSCCHHHHHHRRRREEEEEEEGGGRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHGGGHHHHHeeeeeeeEE EEEE!"
and then it breaks into this really trancy part that goes,
"GHHHRREEEEEEEEEEGHHHHHHschreeeeeeIIIIGGGHHHHEEEEEEUURrrrrr rrRRRRrrrRRRuggghEEEEEEEE!!!!"
you know the one i am talking about? i think it is a social commentary of the growth of economic dominance over 3rd world politics. dang, whats the name of that track?
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-04-16 14:58 [#00177891]
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FOLLITICS PANDOMLIUM BULLITIES MERBOWZ LUNKS ABOUT IN A BERMWOLZ KIND OF YOU KNOW. RANDOM FOLLIES.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-16 14:59 [#00177896]
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no thats not it.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 15:02 [#00177904]
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you trying to make fun of our sacred object?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-16 15:09 [#00177927]
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heh, yeah. but you gotta admit. it pretty much all sounds the same. I mean here we are on a 30+ message thread and, other than remixes, nobody has mentioned a favorite track.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 15:13 [#00177936]
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my fave track is Helga's Death Disco, man. And this is one of common misconceptions about merzbow, that all tracks sound the same. But I know what you mean and bear no grudge against you.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-04-16 15:18 [#00177945]
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I honestly think most merzbow (that i´ve heard) is shit. It sounds like shit running through a noise filter. Not very innovative. I´ve heard a couple of tracks and i had about enough after the first half of it.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 15:22 [#00177948]
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my list? on soulseek?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 15:22 [#00177949]
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fair enough, man. I, on the other hand think it's powerful, everchanging and even funny in a way. To each his own...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 15:23 [#00177951]
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I dunno, I got it off some place you told me it was on some weeks ago and it's on my HDD right now.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 15:30 [#00177970]
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all merzbow does not sound the same...if this were true, then why do ppl pefer diffrent abulms over another? i mean if merzbow sounds completly the same then why are so many ppl into him? prolific crap is just prolific crap, and won't hold a fan base...Merzbow certianly does hold a fan base, and it's pretty damn big for just "sounding all the same." and yes i have a fave track, and fave cd's. my absolute fave track is track 1 off of "Music for bondage performance" (i can't find the case right now), and fave cd is "a perfect pain."
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 15:31 [#00177971]
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ohh! ok, that's my cd-r trading list...
it needs to be updated to show my recent d/l's
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-16 15:31 [#00177973]
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there you have it...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-16 16:32 [#00178095]
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well i didn't mean it sounds COMPLETELY the same. I have a few of his albums myself. I have the one with the bee on the front, i have the one he did with Ladybird (which is my favorite btw) and the one with that naked chick on the cover. but i stopped buying his stuff because if i want to hear distortion, static and hissing i can make it myself. in fact i have made it myself. listen:
www.mp3.com/evolume the track is called "pryme" you can tell me if i suck at making noise. 'course my version of noise is a little more structured than merzbow because the track is based on prime numbers.
no ill will to you all by the way. I probably "just dont' get it" and i kinda envy people that can find pleasure in things that i cannot.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 16:46 [#00178117]
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hey, don't worry... i personally was suprised to hear this anti- noise propragana coming from you, YOU LIVE IN SEATTLE!!!! heh...i'm not expecting anyone that is from seattle to dig merzbow...but seattle does have one of the bigest noice scenes in the U.S (we're only second to NYC); infact we'd get a ton of shows if we weren't so far away from germany...
you said that you dj'ed what style did you do? dn'b? i'll check out your tracks, and post on this thread my opinion.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-16 16:48 [#00178124]
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So is grunge still a big thing in Seattle?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-16 16:51 [#00178129]
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naw i dont' dj. when i played raves it was live music. When we (golgi apparatus) did a noise show, it was at MachineWerks (spelling?) on capitol hill and i used a couple turntables running through a few effects processors but it wasn't so much dj'ing as much as just scratching in beat loops with a lot of feedback.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-16 16:54 [#00178134]
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machinewerks? you sure you don't mean musikwerks (next to the vougue)? that's right you played raves...my bad, i forgot...and you played live? you didn't spin...how did you manage to land that gig? i've been tring to pull that off for the longest time, and i never get a reply...or never see to ppl who i gave demo's too...
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