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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:17 [#01084492]
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sorry for the caps, but people need to see this (as I doubt major media will cover this... its not on CNN yet)
link
The Pentagon and the World Bank have both released statements, saying that the current rate of global warming is more a threat then terrorism. By 2007, Amsterdamn could be gone... read the link for more info.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:20 [#01084495]
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narr it's ok, i don't live in Amsterdam.
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-22 14:20 [#01084496]
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I'm suprised Greenpeace didn't say
"Don't say we didn't warn you"
Fuck me Zeus, that is fucking serious.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-22 14:21 [#01084497]
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well it was only a matter of time...
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:22 [#01084498]
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no you'rre rright, i love Amsterdam :P i'd miss it.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:24 [#01084500]
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i find it really hard to believe that we'd see those kind of effects that soon... not because i don't trust scientists who talk about global warming, but because i can't believe that if the threat is so clearly eminent now, why wasn't it so clear that this was brought to our attention when the whole kyoto accord was such a big deal?
if there is reasoning that you are aware of, please share it with me... i'm interested in the truth, and if i'm wrong about this, i'd like to hear it
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2004-02-22 14:24 [#01084501]
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greenpeace is just as big a propaganda machine as the bush admin.
i wouldnt be too concerned for any of there asumptions.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:25 [#01084503]
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do you rreally worrk forr some big book company?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-22 14:27 [#01084505]
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its fucking freezing here, i hope it does warm up a bit
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:28 [#01084508]
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hep: all these scenarios are from the PENTAGON. Greenpeace is just passing along the info
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 14:29 [#01084509]
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I live in a house on a hill...I've got nothing to worry about. In fact quite the opposite, the value of my house will increase :D!!!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:29 [#01084510]
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it snowed herre tonight.
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-02-22 14:30 [#01084512]
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I like how the pentagon predicted armed US forces shooting into desperate hungry homeless boat people
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:31 [#01084514]
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I think Greenpeace is just as hard to believe as governments are...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:31 [#01084515]
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exactly!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-02-22 14:32 [#01084516]
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just remember this quote:
"the bees never came" -Bowling for columbine
the goverment/aliens/orwhoever want to keep us afraid!! it's all lies, LIES I TELL YOU!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-22 14:32 [#01084518]
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most people (thanks to their media sources + politicians) have misplaced/misinformed concepts of what is or isnt a threat.
i reckon a lot of people are more worried about terrorism than the effects of pollution. look at the facts + iits fairly apparent which is more likely to kill you.
we seem to love in a culture of fear. and that fear is nurtured and directed to the benefit of others.. and to society's detriment.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-22 14:32 [#01084519]
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this coal fire i have sure is nice
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-02-22 14:34 [#01084520]
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exactly my point. well, it's marilyn's manson point really, now isn't it?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 14:35 [#01084521]
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haha that is going to be lost on most of these clowns.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:36 [#01084524]
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ok. dont take it seriously.
sit back, do nothing, and say to yourself "itll all be ok... these kind of things dont really happen. at least not to me"
pfft
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:37 [#01084525]
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you'rre a loon. think of something i can do to help?
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-02-22 14:38 [#01084527]
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just give some cash to greenpeace, that should fix the problem (i hope)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 14:38 [#01084528]
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Just enjoy life, ot do something about it. Posting a thread on an electronic music board isn't exactly going to change much. Become politically active not just moan on a board about how bad everything is.
Might I suggest:
Bolt Action Rifle Tall Building Click Click Click
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:38 [#01084529]
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well, for one, more people need to know about this REAL danger. Its not being covered by major news sources.
spread the word.
or is that too much work for you?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:39 [#01084531]
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hahaha
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:39 [#01084532]
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so people can do what, zeus? be scarred?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:39 [#01084533]
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I am doing something... Im letting people know about this.
Its not much, but I just read the article like 15 mins ago, so give me a break.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-22 14:40 [#01084534]
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The Pentagon 'report' is in fact a theory paper. Many of these worst case scenario papers are drafted, dealing with all manner of possible calamities.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:41 [#01084537]
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me thinks its all just a governmental ploy, but thats just me.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:42 [#01084538]
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so they can demand action by thier government, prepare for what is to come
if no one knows, nothing can be done to help fight it.
if the general public finds out, they will demand that something be done.... meaning more funding to programs to help battle the effects, and cut down on the causes of global warming
dont give me that "what can I do" bs. Everything effects everyone. my telling 20 people on here, can cause a chain of effects. Dont be so narrow minded.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-22 14:42 [#01084539]
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i cannot believe for one second that you are accusing a credible organisation such as greenpeace for using emotive language and other manipulative media techniques to brainwash the ill-informed public into their point of view primarily for their own benefit?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 14:42 [#01084540]
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But after this thread runs its natural course and dies what will you do about it? Fair enough you are concerned and it seems as though it has shocked you, but unless you are willing to go further and do something about it yourself a million of these threads won't make a bit of difference.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:43 [#01084541]
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the fact is, i've been to worrk most of the day, i'm tirred and i don't carre that global warrming is a thrreat rright now. not when tonight i had to scrrape a layerr of fucking ice of the carr beforre i could come home.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-22 14:44 [#01084542]
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don't drink milk, AP. its carted around the country in those guzzling diesel powered lorries which are responsible for dangerous emissions of greenhouse gasses. do you drink milk, zeus?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:44 [#01084543]
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you seem to be implying that you think Im just going to forget about it after the thread dies.
well fuck you for assuming you know what I will do.
:-D
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:45 [#01084544]
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I'm pretty indifferent... when Canada is flooded, I'll worry...
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:45 [#01084545]
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eh, we'll see. then we'll probbly wanna pee. oh, crikee. it's fifty-two past three...
gottaa whizzzeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
oussstta here!!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 14:46 [#01084546]
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No, you will remember about it...but will you take action?
Are you a member of any political group? Are you active in any political arena? If not you aren't doing anything about the problem you're just another sidelined viewer and no use to anyone.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084547]
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ah, too tired to care. thats... thats great.
and global warming doesnt mean just heating up. Englands climate could change to Siberian type weather.
earth: actually I dont drink milk. Sorry to ruin your obvious attempt to go "ohhhh, so you drink milk! youre supporting global warming blah blah blah"
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084549]
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Heh.
They even quote a statement that confirms it's all just a theoretical exercise:
The report was commissioned "to develop a plausible scenario for abrupt climate change that can be used to explore implications for food supply, health and disease, commerce and trade, and their consequences for national security."
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084550]
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but zeus! remain a bit sceptical. the enemy of the enemy is not necesarilly not an idiot
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084551]
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We're fucked anyway.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084552]
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Demolition Man> Lenina Huxley> Box Of Tissues.
Bye.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:47 [#01084553]
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i get my milk delivered by the milk man,.. yep that's right. i live ona farm.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-22 14:48 [#01084554]
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do you go to bonfires, zeus? do you drive a car, zeus? do you use anti-persperant or smoke tobacco?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:49 [#01084555]
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I drink it straight from the cows tit... it's better that way!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:49 [#01084556]
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regardless of whether it happens in 3 years, or it happens in 30... i think it's very valuable to know how the pentagon may respond to it (in such a violent manner)... and i do plan on enquiring elsewhere about this...
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:49 [#01084557]
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i doubt you eat eitherr?
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-22 14:49 [#01084558]
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mmmm, Sandra was so fine in that movie.
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