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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-13 10:44 [#02110810]
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The demo is up on Xbox Live and it's astonishing. But it's not like there was ever any doubt. Playing it just over a week before its release is a bit like beating off 10 minutes before fucking Julie-Delpy-circa-1992, but I couldn't resist.
It's so similar to System Shock 2, even down to the hypos and the potato chips, but much more streamlined, with less flipping back and forth into menus and different interfaces. I'm not sure how I feel about that... it flows better, but a demo doesn't scratch the surface of games of this depth, I can only wonder just how deep it's going to be. Micromanagement in games like this gets annoying and unintuitive after a certain point anyway, storing all kinds of miscellaneous shit on your person. Keep it simple stupid, that seems to be the basis for this game's interface.
I'm also not sure about the enemies. They're a bit over-the-top, I think I would have preferred a more subdued opponent. But I suppose it's a nice contrast, their screeching psychosis with the beautiful art-deco utopia. Or DYStopia, as it were lolololol.
Anyway, yeah, what am I doing point out all the flaws and question marks, this is a lock for game of the year, and I only wish more game designers had the ambition (and budget) to create worlds like this. I love it when designers craft places like Rapture. You know, Shadow Moses, Black Mesa, Citadel Station, et al.
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clayhillpeak
from Vuh (China) on 2007-08-13 12:45 [#02110822]
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this game is what finally sold me on the 360. other games had sparked intrest, but nothing worth $400. but now ill have to get one, which means ill have to get dead rising and condemned and PD:Z and gears of war and FEAR. damn, ive got more games to play than i thought
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-13 13:04 [#02110825]
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360 was a travesty and disgrace to the history of videogames.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-13 13:14 [#02110829]
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If I ever publish a game which i won't and have no skill to even make the initial title screen of, I'll make it a kids game with the title being an acronym of a curse word.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-08-13 13:29 [#02110831]
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I just spent £800 on new computer parts which will be arriving tomorrow. Needless to say, Bioshock should prove to be an excellent stress test for it. I think the PC demo is coming next week, so hopefully I will have built + installed all my shit by then. Sorted! Can't wait to play it.
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-13 13:35 [#02110832]
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mario galaxy.
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staz
on 2007-08-13 13:43 [#02110833]
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it is fucking AMAZING. AMAZING. the demo is AIGGJIEGQ#)Q i want this game now.
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staz
on 2007-08-13 13:45 [#02110834]
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there's really something to be said for this game's atmosphere and style... they took it to another level, it's so intense.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-08-13 14:20 [#02110842]
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I agree. it's AIGGJIEGQ#)Q
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-13 14:23 [#02110844]
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but does it have essence of congs, that's the real question.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-13 16:35 [#02110885]
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Best atmosphere ever, it really is a hell of an achievement. I've been thinking about it all day. GET... OUT... OF... MY... HEAD
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-13 16:37 [#02110886]
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I honestly felt like I was having a hard time breathing during the tubeway scene.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-14 05:24 [#02110990]
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Does this have anything to do with the mid-late 90s PC sci-fi 3rd person puzzle/survival game (a bit like alone in the dark) 'Bioshock'?
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staz
on 2007-08-14 05:57 [#02110997]
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um, what?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-14 06:12 [#02110999]
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IE, is this game that you are talking about: a follow up, sequel, or remake of an old 3rd person PC game in which you play a cyborg who was exeprimented on against his will (or is it merely a game with the same name). I don't remember much about the game other than the hilarity of beating an insane man to death with his own arm.
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staz
on 2007-08-14 06:24 [#02111001]
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i remember that game.. wasn't there some dreadful voice acting in it? i don't believe it was called bioshock, though?
anyway, this is a "spiritual successor" to the system shock game and has nothing to do with the game you're mentioning.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-14 10:59 [#02111034]
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Free artbook, wheeee. Irrational games are spoiling us.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-14 11:08 [#02111039]
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You're quite right, the game I was thinking of was actually called Bioforge. By way of an apology, here's the crazy chap in blue I was refering to...
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staz
on 2007-08-17 00:46 [#02111680]
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sup thread that wasn't even on second page
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-17 02:17 [#02111693]
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Is bioshock the new oink? I looked at the google video review... yeahhh... what they don't show much of is the heaps of irritating menu navigating, intruding cut scenes, wandering around for the fuck ever with nothing to do because you (way too easily probably) killed all the monsters in this linear vicinity and can't find that one stupid hidden area to go or thing you're supposed to do to trigger the next linear scene, having a shit controller right in the center of your consciousness at all times, some shit puzzle elements and other time consuming non fun challengeless crap, etc, all of which I expect to be there. Glowing videogame reviews have as much credibility as the media these days. The reviewer probably works for microsoft in some elaborate tactical scheme they use to rig the deck to make sure they get good reviews kind of like the tuss albums. If I had this game and an xbox 360 right in front of me, I'd play hell revealed for doom 2 instead.
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staz
on 2007-08-17 02:21 [#02111694]
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don't be a homo w m w!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-17 02:28 [#02111696]
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Staz, how can you possibly be so sexy... and then not expect me to be a homo? Also, lets talk about midgets to derail the topic. It's ok, we won't get in trouble; I'm a backseat moderator. With just a few tactical posts I can manipulate Ceri JC to ban whoever I want.
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staz
on 2007-08-17 02:37 [#02111699]
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i just shot myself in the face. help me. help me.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-08-17 09:20 [#02111796]
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alright, didn't see this one. but looks amazing - i will have it. i must have it.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-08-17 11:38 [#02111822]
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The demo is pretty inviting, It makes me think of the french movie "city of the lost children" with an horror twist to it, wich is an incredible mix imo. I'm not a fan of FPS but this one tend to be much more than that.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-17 12:01 [#02111828]
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Speaking of film parallels, the lighting in this game often reminds me of an Argento film. Such imaginative relationships between color and light.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-08-17 12:03 [#02111829]
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It might be one of the best game ever...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-17 12:22 [#02111838]
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Artistically it's the best I've seen, no contest. And the gameplay is great, I'll be fucking around with plasmids for hours. The only question marks for me is the story, and whether or not they can sustain the intensity for the entire 20something hours. They couldn't do that in System Shock 2, which grinded to a slow halt. Hopefully lessons were learned.
The nuanced storytelling style is excellent, the sound-clip format with no cut-scenes is proven and immersive. And the premise is great, but it wouldn't be hard to drop the ball when you're doing something so ambitious.
I also hope the game is harder than the demo lets on. Normal seems WAY too easy for a ''normal mode'' in this kind of game. Of course Hard Mode wasn't selectable, and I'm only going by what I saw in the demo, so there might be nothing to this complaint.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-08-17 12:28 [#02111844]
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Will you get the game on 20th of august like in the US ? I'll have to wait until 31st my european self :(
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-17 12:40 [#02111853]
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looks fantastic although I'm trying to avoid the hype... I can't be bothered upgrading my pc so I'll probably end up getting a 360
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 12:47 [#02112476]
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Here's a little update for whom it may concern: Bioshock is now available for pre-order and pre-load on Steam.
I just purchased my copy and currently have 23.2% of Bioshock. I've got a fairly beefy computer, but my ram is fairly slow as well so I'm expecting poor performance. I don't mind playing the game at 640x480 if I have to, though. I'm just glad the wait is nearly over.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-08-20 12:54 [#02112478]
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what are your pc specs? I'm thinking about buying it myself. since I can't afford a 360 just yet.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 12:58 [#02112480]
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AMD Athlon 64 3800+ at 2.4ghz, athlon 8800gts 640mb, 2gb pc 3200 ddr ram, soundblaster audigy 4 pro, 180gb SATA hdd. I listed my hdd b/c SATA transfer data the fastest (aside from RAID configuration) so it help with games. It's really not too beefy anymore, now that I think about it :( Still runs the games I play well though. (Half life2, GRAW 2, etc)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 12:59 [#02112481]
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athlon 8800gts = nvidia* 8800gts, lol
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OK
on 2007-08-20 13:05 [#02112482]
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what? that's a monster IMO
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-08-20 13:22 [#02112485]
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yeah, beats mine. I have the same processor as you and same ram. graphic card is a x1950pro though. should run on, like medium. I hope.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-20 13:47 [#02112494]
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IT'S CHRISTMAS EVE!
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TheDogsBallix
from corkadorgha on 2007-08-20 14:23 [#02112495]
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cave story's better.
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-20 15:57 [#02112501]
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agreed.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 16:37 [#02112505]
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I wonder if steam will unlock the game at 12:01 this morning or if the release won't occur until a "proper" time of 9:00 am, etc.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-20 17:09 [#02112514]
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Dunno but gamespot just totally sabotaged Bioshock's bid to be the #1 rated game ever on gamerankings they gave it a pathetic 9.0, omg gamespot are such Halo fanboys! Their rigging the GOTY, wtfhax
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 17:48 [#02112519]
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haha. I never understood halo fan-boys. For any long-time PC FPS gamer, Halo really wasn't the earth-shattering original some claim it to be.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-08-20 18:15 [#02112523]
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I think I must ask somebody competent: what is so special about Halo? To me it seemed like a run of the mill FPS
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 19:26 [#02112540]
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I suppose if one had always been a console gamer, and had never experienced the joys of PC FPS gaming, then one might feel that halo was nothing short of revolutionary. I think perhaps it comes down to the individual's gaming history.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-20 19:35 [#02112543]
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I'm not a big Halo fan, mostly because of its bland presentation. But I do have to defend it, because gameplay wise, it was definitely fresh and influential in a positive way. There was no game before it that utilzed the recharging-shields/health system so expertly, and it's no coincidence that it's now a staple feature in the genre. The flow of battle in Legendary difficulty, due to the VERY strong AI and the dynamics of its shield system, had no real precedent. The two-weapon system forces you to think on the-fly about what you should carry and when, very unlike almost every FPS at that time. The game was nothing like Unreal/Quake/Counterstrike/Goldeneye/etc.
Console-specific, I think it was one of the first dual-analog games, and certainly the best at the time, pretty much every console FPS after it it just a variation of Halo's control layout. The grenade system was especially revelatory. Lastly, the Goldeneye effect, 4 or more dudes in very close proximity, sweating and yelling and stuff.
The thing that sucks about Halo's gameplay is the level design, again a lot of that is a result of its style, or lack thereof. Great combat mechanics, but some of the levels are so repetitious to go through.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-20 19:38 [#02112544]
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''utilized''
Anyway, there's a reason why modern FPS games are compared to Halo before anything else. And it's not because of its sales. That doesn't mean it's the best though, even on consoles, Resistance is like a weird hybrid of Halo and Call of Duty, but better than both.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 22:31 [#02112560]
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According to the front page for Steam, the game won't be unlocked for over 15 hours. How does it make sense to make the game available at 4:00p.m. on the day of realease?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-20 22:32 [#02112561]
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release*
sorry, long day.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-08-21 00:23 [#02112562]
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i just got it today, so far the game is ridiculous. it's very horrifying/mental and i love it
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-08-21 06:28 [#02112597]
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just played the demo. it is the sickest thing ever. the graphic was so extremely nice. and my computer ran it just fine with NO lag (all settings on high), so I pre-ordered this shit from Steam, yo.
amazing
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