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magicant
from Canada on 2007-04-04 21:04 [#02069484]
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The second half on The Great Destroyer sounds like Aphex Twin. Sorry.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-04-04 21:25 [#02069486]
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I got my violence in hi-def ultrea re-alism.
he sometimes writes lines that are amusing when you break them apart from the song.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-04-04 21:26 [#02069487]
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capital G is pretty funny
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magicant
from Canada on 2007-04-04 22:16 [#02069496]
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In a good way?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-04-05 04:49 [#02069568]
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I think he should do a "best of" called "Music for angry teenagers who think they're deep and that no one else gets it".
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-04-05 13:47 [#02069717]
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why do people expect him to do anything but angst? a common complaint i hear is that Trent is too whiney and pseudo depressed. but what the hell, should he start writing uplifting melodic bubble gum pop about how he wants to get married and make babies? Or maybe he should be writing more songs about drinking top shelf liquor and smokin' kind bud. of course, this would not be NIN.
I think he has evolved over the years, tried different techniques and styles. This latest effort sounds NOTHING like Pretty Hate Machine for example, but it still sounds like NIN. he has also maintained his angsty roots. it's why many of his fans started listening to begin with.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-04-05 18:10 [#02069779]
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so hes been sellin Angst for years
IDM has been sellin Pretentiousness for just as long
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-05 19:12 [#02069796]
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Ever see the film Brain Candy by Kids in the Hall. Remember what happens when the rock star takes the pill?
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mimi
on 2007-04-05 19:45 [#02069802]
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happy this and happy that and happy blah blah blah
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-04-06 08:59 [#02069909]
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This is album was WAY better then with teeth! Lot's of fucking noise !!!!
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OK
on 2007-04-06 12:13 [#02069970]
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this thing has a very unique sound
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Valor
on 2007-04-06 12:26 [#02069973]
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i can't wait till NIN starts rapping about ponies and tea parties. THEN it'll start fucking with peoples head...
this whole dark look at me i'm the victim crap is getting kinda old.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-04-06 14:13 [#02070021]
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"this whole dark look at me i'm the victim crap is getting kinda old."
He hasnt really done that since 1994 Valor, I think that is the problem for most of the fans. But I hear what your saying meng...
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-04-06 15:17 [#02070035]
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im still waiting for the experimental aspects of this album that he kept hyping up..... where are they? The second half of The Great Destroyer is really good crazy noise but the rest of it sounds more straight forward than anything he's done besides With Teeth. When he said experimental i was expecting something like Further down the spiral, Fixed or the Quake soundtrack.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-04-06 15:18 [#02070036]
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yeah, trent has so much money id be surprised if he didnt own like every Buchla synth ever made.
i read an interview with him once in a pro recording mag about how he was mad that he couldnt sync up 2 x 1.5 million dollar mixing consoles called "Studer" because the company had never had anyone buy 2 before. He was acting like a little baby during the whole interview.
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thatne
from United States on 2007-04-06 15:20 [#02070037]
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Ceri JC
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-04-06 15:21 [#02070038]
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i wish trent did a good remix album again to make up for this piece of garbage (sorry ! )
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-04-06 15:37 [#02070039]
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you're not in the right mood to listen to this new NiN relaese. go listen to some Enya, come back at about 14 April and check again, thanks !
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-04-06 15:47 [#02070040]
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so you'r e saying i have to sink my standards to the level of Enya to be able to appreciate the new nine inch faggles
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staz
on 2007-04-07 19:39 [#02070382]
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it's alright, i shouldn't have expected that much. i quite enjoy NIN's older stuff, even with teeth has some really good tracks (but half of it is sorely uninspired and dull). this album's leaked tracks were probably the best of the munch. i miss more melodic variation and more experimental approaches, this is structurally pretty close to with teeth. "meet your master" could have been great tune if the chorus melody didn't just repeat but expand beyond the "faster" bit into some different base notes, i have this perfect sequence in my head but WAAAH trent. oh well, it's not offensive. just "decent".
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2007-04-07 19:45 [#02070384]
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after one not so proper going through (but with the headphones and in the right mood) i conclude :
drum samples, rhythm machines, whatever...are the weakest part of the album...but the synths, noises, electronic production overall has some really on the point composition within songs.
his voice isn't angry as on with teeth, which is a paradox cause this album was announced as noisy and angry blah blah...somehow i miss with teeth now BUT survivalism is a perfect example of pop single...i've heard it once and few times skipped through the video but it was only seconds...and days after it's in my head...
i was very dissapointed when i heard with teeth for the first time, but later i loved it, esp. the last 4 songs...
so this one run faster on the start i'll write more in next weeks
after all , this is also an example of the fast written fast recorded than even faster mixing....like the last sonic youth...if you could merge WT and YZ songs and mix it for a long time like downward spiral...then it could be a proper new AND good album...
but Trent is fucked up more than any other clever guy on the whole scene, so evryone should be lucky that he's alive.
my longest post ever btw
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staz
on 2007-04-07 19:48 [#02070389]
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actually, the track "the great destroyer" is terrific.
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tood dude
on 2007-04-07 19:50 [#02070391]
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heavy metal so lame kinda man!!!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-11 00:16 [#02071119]
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We are spoiled when it comes to hearin new fresh and exciting sounds. The average person has never heard of aphex or autehcre so NIN is really ground breaking to them.
Probably most NIN fans have never heard of them either.
Am I the only one who thinks 'head like a hole' is still the best track NIN ever did?
Just like Loser is still the best track Beck ever did.(imho)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-11 00:22 [#02071120]
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And we all know there is long forgotten music from the 50's that is even more odd and amazing when it comes to sound.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-04-11 01:43 [#02071124]
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no, i meant something different, not worse. you don't need to sink your standards, your highness
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uzim
on 2007-04-11 13:52 [#02071242]
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i assure you that even knowing aphex twin, autechre etc, i still find some novelty, "fresh" and "exciting" sounds in other music. idm doesn't have the monopoly of it. : )
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-04-11 15:07 [#02071260]
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the timing in Survivalism is interesting. he starts out singing on the back beat but the chorus rocks it on the one. makes it kinda difficult to sing along. so then i try harder to sing along and pay close attention and now it's totally stuck in my head.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-04-11 15:08 [#02071261]
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no. "Wish" is best. no wait. my favorite is "Burn."
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-04-15 21:19 [#02072366]
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industrial fanbois
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-15 21:21 [#02072368]
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surely you mean cheesy pop fanbois..
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-04-15 21:23 [#02072370]
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hahah, yeah that was kind of the joke behind the post, ole trent isnt mr. industrial anymore, he is "cheesy pop" and its good stuff
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-15 21:25 [#02072371]
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he was mr. industrial for pepople who never listened to industrial perhaps. maybe. surely. without a doubt.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-15 23:19 [#02072380]
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uzim, really? Like what artists? I am really curious now.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-04-16 03:05 [#02072400]
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industrial post pop rock
i ordered the cd, but still think he won't ever beat Skinny Puppy
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uzim
on 2007-04-16 04:27 [#02072413]
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· the "onkyo", "electro-acoustic improvisation" and "lowercase" genres, with otomo yoshihide, sachiko m, keith berry, bernhard günter etc... granted, different albums by the same artists will sound similar and you don't need a lot of albums from this genre, but you might never have heard anything like it when you hear it for the first time. also ryoji ikeda (quite different actually).
· coil (not new, but their catalogue is so large i always discover new things & often surprising ones)
· irr. app. (ext.) · saul williams, who i discovered lately and like very much
· growing (album : color wheel), ben reynolds... weird hybrid musics, with elements of electronic music, post-rock and other things - assembled in a quite unusual way
· since we last spoke by rjd2 · stankonia by outkast (not new either, but i discovered it pretty late and still find it amazing)etc...
now aphex twin may still be amongst the best when it comes to reinventing oneself and experimenting different genres, i was pleasantly surprised by chosen lords — but even so, you only get to hear a tiny part of the musical spectrum with a single artist. and only a little part of it with a specific genre like idm. and it seems to me like other idm artists who were groundbreaking once are now pretty much repeating themselves (it's been a while since i bought an autechre album and i might never do it again, i have spokes by plaid but i never listen to it, i've tried throttle furniture by clark but i found so bland and generic i deleted the mp3s after one listen and a half...) — idm is not to blame for that, it happens in every other genre of music. but i'm not an idm fan or an indie rock fan or whatever; i like music, no matter the genre as long as it pleases me. so when it starts to get boring somewhere, i just try and go somewhere else. and i often like what i find.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-04-16 11:14 [#02072528]
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mr. uzim: bring out the autechre, crank spokes and trottle furniture is excellent (listened to it twice in the car yesterday)
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stilaktive
from a place on 2007-04-16 11:41 [#02072539]
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why did he base Capital G around MJ's The Way You Make Me Feel?
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-04-16 18:28 [#02072718]
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And what do "Real" Industrial people listen to?
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05
from vita contemplativa on 2007-04-16 18:42 [#02072726]
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guess he's thinking of throbbing gristle... at least they established the term in music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-16 18:46 [#02072729]
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u2 and rolling stones obvuiously. hardcore stuff.
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uviol
from United States on 2007-04-16 20:14 [#02072757]
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Is throbbing gristle what's depicted in your avatar too?
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-04-16 20:33 [#02072761]
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Cant stand it when TG is all anybody can come up with in reference with "real" Industrial.
so many other acts...
Its funny though how if an industrial act structures its songs in Rock format they are no longer industrial.. (as considered by industrial elitists)
I.E. NIN, KMFDM, TKK
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uviol
from United States on 2007-04-16 21:19 [#02072768]
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I'd consider Front 242 innovators, to some extent.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-04-17 16:46 [#02073058]
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fresh and short interview
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-04-17 18:38 [#02073112]
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nine inch nails
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-04-17 18:39 [#02073113]
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wow
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OK
on 2007-04-17 19:48 [#02073142]
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nine inch cocks huhuhuhuhuhuhu
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-18 16:47 [#02073466]
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yeah definitely
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magicant
from Canada on 2007-04-19 01:38 [#02073546]
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Year Zero is alright!!!!!!
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