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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-01-04 02:18 [#02160236]
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I feel like they caved in to pressure and got rid of the gorgeous Wind Waker style because N-bots just wanted teh mach00r Zelda. They wanted OoT 2.0, they got it, a slight rejiggering of an antiquated game and formula. I feel dumb for busting a nut over its unveiling now.
Mario Galaxy feels different though. Sunshine is left behind where it belongs... but so is Mario 64. SMG is more linear and pure and focused... it's almost exactly the Mario game I wanted after playing those brilliant Sunshine bonus levels that eschewed exploration and pointless collectathons and just let you platform. It feels more like classic 2D Mario in 3D rather than the sandbox style of Mario 64.
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SPD
from United States on 2008-01-04 02:25 [#02160237]
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i really love all of them so i've got no complaints, except Mario 64 DS was kind of a bad idea. i don't like controlling the thing. it was meant for a real controller.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-01-04 02:32 [#02160239]
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yea I think I agree with your point about Galaxy, and about the bonus levels of Sunshine... I think Galaxy draws on many roots, including Mario 3 and 64, plus it's sufficiently innovative to be more than a nostalgia trip.
but I would not go as far as to say wind waker is a superior release to twilight princess; it had so many flaws and pacing issues. Its quirky presentation gave rise to many quirky problems, as well.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-01-04 03:43 [#02160244]
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I agree, TP > WW, gameplay wise. TP's a solid game, tried and true to a fault. I guess I'm mostly talking about the change in artistic style. People complained about the cel shading and in hindsight... just wow. Don't get me started on WW's inept game design, but it was so beautiful.
Plus the graphic whore in me was kind of aghast when I set eyes on TP for the first time. Kameo for 360 is a game with a similarly nondescript fantasy style that I don't care for, but man it was hard going from that crystal clear color cornucopia to TP's muted jaggy blurfest. Not that I think the Wii isn't capable, because Metroid and Mario look fine and dandy.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-04 03:48 [#02160245]
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TP has that whole problem of being a gamecube original, that unfortunately seems to have really affected the graphics.
The best zelda for a long time for me has to be Phantom Hourglass.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-01-04 04:05 [#02160252]
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Very true, though for me a lot of it also weak implementation of style. Wind Waker still looks gorgeous and clean, and even though I totally don't approve of it as a remake, MGS-Twin Snakes is still sharp. RE4 is rough and dirty too but it works REALLY well there.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-04 04:18 [#02160256]
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Yeah the GC did some amazing things when it was in the right hands. Might dig mine out now.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-01-16 02:54 [#02164078]
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i've started playing twilight princess on wii (25 hours in) and while it's really good, i'm perplexed as to how similar it looks (from memory) to the n64 games, aside from some more fluid animations, water texture etc.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-16 03:13 [#02164080]
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i enjoyed the game. i guess being a zelda fan, pretty much any major new installment would've pleased me. complaints like, it's not hard enough or it's too similar to OoT aren't as bad as it just being a shit game.
if you really wanted a zelda game thats harde and adds something new, play okami and pretend it's really hard.
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