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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-10-28 04:00 [#01993787]
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1. Represent the date in the format year-day-month instead of the more logical year-month-day.
2. Say 'I could care less' when what they really MEAN is 'I COULDN'T care less...'.
3. Kill their most forward-thinking leaders. 4. Elect their most backward-thinking leaders. 5. Invade Middle Eastern countries and kill thousands of children.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-10-28 04:11 [#01993790]
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6.Roland McDonalds
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-28 04:22 [#01993795]
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I always thought day-month-year would be most logical.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 04:26 [#01993797]
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you do year month day?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 04:40 [#01993801]
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That's what I do. It's just... well logical.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-10-28 04:43 [#01993803]
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it's day-month-year for me too, let's FIGHT for it!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-10-28 05:00 [#01993811]
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I like month day year. Because it seems to transfer easiest from written to numeric.
October 26, 2006 = 10/26/06
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 05:02 [#01993812]
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that's only in english, though
we say 26 oktober 2006
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b6662966
from ? on 2006-10-28 05:10 [#01993819]
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Are you talking about North-Americans, Central-Americans or South-Americans?
The United States is the greatest country in the Solar System because god lives here.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 05:16 [#01993822]
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number 2 on your list is the highest in my list of annoying things that Americans do
and what's even worse is that when you explain to them the semantics of their words and the actual meaning of what they're saying they say that we're saying it wrong!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-28 05:48 [#01993832]
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print this and keep in your wallet at all times!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 05:51 [#01993833]
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that is fucking awesome
i usually use my hands to visually represent that kinda graph, but now i can just show them that
excellent
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 05:55 [#01993834]
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day-month-year ascending duration of time for each unit; logical month-day-year WTF?!?!?! fucking americans
on all the old eastern bloc stamps i have, most countries have toe revolution date on them, and they put the month in roman numerals, like 19.VII.1948 , no room for confusion. we shold do that
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 05:56 [#01993835]
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oh, and when a guy goes into a school and shoots loads of kids, americans never blame the guy who did it, but blame the music he listened to or the films he watched or the video games he played. like marilyn manson got blamed for columbine.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 06:03 [#01993843]
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do you have any sources for that? I don't need much, just an article talking about how the music he listened to or how other people treated him could be considered factors in an evaluation of his actions. The main point in my paper this semester is about stuff like that and how it just won't hold up.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 06:04 [#01993844]
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that is, I want an article that I can use as an example, an article that has as its positive thesis that he couldn't be entirely blamed for his actions or something like that...
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 06:07 [#01993845]
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it was on Bowling for Columbine, if i remember correctly. and some obscure evangelist leaflet i picked up at an airport once.
(no decent references, sorry)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 06:10 [#01993847]
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yeah, but was there someone claiming explicitly that marilyn manson was blamed or wasn't it just some interview moore did with manson because he had been blamed for it?
oh well, I'll probably get the point across that it happens without a source.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 06:14 [#01993849]
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some woman was moaning about how metal/rock music was to blame because it preaches hate etc. and moore interviewed manson about the whole thing. i think there was some stuff about manson being pointed out specifically. i dont have it on DVD or anything, so i cant check.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 06:17 [#01993850]
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hmm.. ok, I'll try and see if I can find it. It's always good to have a real example.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2006-10-28 07:51 [#01993875]
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"oh, and when a guy goes into a school and shoots loads of
kids, americans never blame the guy who did it, but blame the music he listened to or the films he watched or the video games he played. like marilyn manson got blamed for columbine.
Good call. Or they blame the parents, that's also always one of the cheap shots.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 07:58 [#01993880]
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it's unfair to blame the perpetrator, the parents, the music the perp listened to, or the films he/she watched
why can't it just be this simple:
it was the goddamn fucking kids' fault for being annoying little fucks
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 07:58 [#01993881]
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this is a very general phenomenon you find all over the world these days, though, and after that 90s psychology thing these days it's actually more and more about sociobiology. Hey! We found the gene that makes you criminal! ..no, wait.. no, it wasn't after all. How about this one then? No. This one? No. It seems it doesn't exist. Oh well, let's keep up searching for it.
Hey, I'm an egoistical being, so I don't take responsibility for my actions.
bah
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-28 08:45 [#01993890]
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Drive v8's. Whine about gasprices when its like triple in europe. Allows multicorporate chains to destroy culture.
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-10-28 08:46 [#01993891]
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J198, that graph is brilliant - perhaps The Most Useful Graph In The World For Explaining To Americans How Stupid They Are 2006â„¢.
Also, i didn't mean to reverse the date thing in my original post, but you get the point anyway.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-28 08:49 [#01993892]
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genes can play a role in everything, as can upbringing. look into the whole nature/nurture thing. but i cannot see how any action cannot be moderated by common bloody sense, or human empathy.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 08:57 [#01993898]
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I think the only thing sociobiologists have been able to prove lately is that they're good at misusing statistics and that they aren't able to find any of the genes they're talking about. They've even gone so far as to prove that the genes don't necessarily control your behaviour even in the sense of predisposing your body for higher testosterone production in that hormone levels like the testosterone level doesn't depend solely on your body, but can rise and sink according to how you view yourself; the alpha male has higher testosterone levels because he is the alpha male, he isn't the alpha male because he has higher testosterone levels.
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-28 10:43 [#01993947]
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i;m an american and i believe in freedom, the geverment and nine eleven
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 10:46 [#01993951]
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don't you mean seven eleven?
ha
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 11:02 [#01993958]
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i think they've all been watching the DOOM film a bit too much
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-28 11:04 [#01993959]
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there was actually a similar graph posted somewhere on the twoism forum that was even better but i cant find it anymore.
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2006-10-28 11:07 [#01993960]
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That's an excellent graph if you assume the phrases are statements on the amount of caring contained within an individual. Perhaps Americans are more concerned with outward appearances than true inward feeling. For instance, there are plenty of commercials and advertisements that state something to the effect of "buy this to show that you care," implying that "if you give this to someone, they will think that you care, even if you don't." Feelings are truely internal, and the only way to share them with others is by external action (unless you have telepathy). Maybe by saying "they could care less" they are implying that through their actions, they would be able to present an appearance of caring less, because emotionally they already care less than what they are showing. By saying "I couldn't care less," one would more than likely be accurately converting their emotions into physical form (one exception being if they were attempting to deceive someone into thinking they care less than they really do, but I think that would be rare in normal conversation since there seems to be all of this emphasis on being caring people and everything).
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 12:13 [#01993989]
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europeans are just as much a victim of corporate control and manipulation and retardation as america is.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 12:15 [#01993991]
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most americans dont care because they dont know.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 12:21 [#01994004]
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oh and i've found it easier to just say "i could give two shits" bypassing the caring part altogether.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-28 12:23 [#01994007]
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hah ah u r gay!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-28 13:21 [#01994057]
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I initially was against The Americanians saying "I could care less", but then I came to realise, that it has its own meaning in the sense that "This is so boring, I could care less about it, but I'm not going to get that worked up about it, I'm just going to attribute it my usual, everyday level of dismissiveness without going the whole hog of completely not caring. That's how little I care, or as much, depending on your point of view".
I think they say it like that because they like to talk more, even when saying less, they have to talk more.
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NannouV4
from United States on 2006-10-28 13:55 [#01994083]
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don't assume that all americans drive V8's and are blind to the effects of the "american dream". there is at least .0001% of americans who don't believe the dream is good and would like to see the country think up a new dream, one that doesn't involve destroying the rest of the world.
those traitors! long live the american dream! V8 escalades and super-sized freedom fries for all!
disney land, coca cola and cheap tube socks at wal-mart. as long as you're willing to be completely in debt to a credit card company, you can have it all!
no sane person can deny the purity of our dream. unless they want a free waterboarding trip to guantanamo.
hopefully, when we finish spreading freedom, democracy and low fat mayonnaise in iraq we can move on to the rest of the world. these things take time, though, some people don't understand how much time it takes to force people to love you and embrace your social values, not to mention how long it takes to get a nice even layer of mayo over an entire country! time, and money. two hundred million dollars. a day.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-10-28 14:14 [#01994108]
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Yeah, Maybe come here and meet people.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 14:22 [#01994113]
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but the americans use it usually in the context that we're complaining about
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sneakattack
on 2006-10-28 14:36 [#01994120]
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year month day is the most sensible (saying "logical" in this case means you don't understand logic..) because you may use integer and string comparison routines (the latter if the numbers are zero padded) to determine if a date is later than another date.
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 15:18 [#01994136]
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oh no all americans shoot people and bathe in oil
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-10-28 15:22 [#01994138]
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and all English people have something called "afternoon tea and crumpets"
and we all speak in the same accent
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 15:24 [#01994141]
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with horrible teeth
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hexane
on 2006-10-28 16:20 [#01994167]
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"no sane person can deny the purity of our dream. unless they want a free waterboarding trip to guantanamo. " = literal l.o.l
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 16:48 [#01994174]
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-10-28 18:53 [#01994182]
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illogical things europeans do: ACT LIKE FAGS
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 20:07 [#01994213]
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i wish some clever european would solve this god forsaken america problem and make this world a better place instead of always saying the same tired thing.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-10-28 20:19 [#01994219]
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don't worry kids
soon china will be the new power to make fun of
that is, if the world is still around in a few hundred years
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rad smiles
on 2006-10-28 20:20 [#01994220]
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me rikey
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