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It just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I'm important enough for people to constantly complain about. |
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stupid american's |
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hue hew hugh |
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we do it MONTH/DAY/YEAR. and even our most backwater accents are pretty clear... yeah.. I'm looking at YOU Ireland. |
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pizza hut bringing them in slices |
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I need some help with getting the air out of my radiator |
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Rad Smiles said: "oh and i've found it easier to just say "i could give two shits" bypassing the caring part altogether. " ...You stupid American twat. That's the same error. |
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Do Americans have a missing 'logic' gene? |
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who gives a fuck on how a country chooses to post its durations of time? honestly. I really love how anything our media chooses to do is directly reflected back on our people 100% as if the entire country thinks Marilyn Manson was some evil demon that crept up those kids asses and caused them to shoot up a school. If you hold that viewpoint you are a fucking rediculous member of a sack of shit race that needs to be bludgeoned with big friggin rocks. Actually meet a few (non-tourist) Americans before you talk bad about them. How many of you Anti-American twats can honestly say you've really taken the time to study your foe? Very few of you I bet have actually sat down at a dinner table with a family of Americans to see what they truly think of the world or really have any idea as to what our mass majority thinks on the war in Iraq, Terrorism, Bush etc etc. take your heads out of your asses everyone. PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE. I could put the UK under the microscope and dig up PLEANTY of dirt on you guys, enough to talk three times as bad about your people. that goes for any country. |
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you must agree, though, that as with english people driving on the wrong side of the road, it creates unnecessary confusion... for instance how the fuck would I know of 05/03 is the fifth of march or the third of may since not all people use the same standard? |
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I dont think there is a "Wrong side of the road" was a stupid way of going about things. Futurists could see the rate of population growth coupled with the lifespan of any particular vehicle, the consumption of fossil fuels and any fuels for that matter, all this green house shit,.... I'm trailing off of that approach now. think about this: 1 car for every person on earth. major waste of material. we need to create a better means of mass transit that is the Key! oh wait we were american bashing. I respect you Drunken Mastah, out of all the posts Ive read that youve written theyve almost all been well thought out and no bullshit going with em. I dont give a fuck about the way anybody does the date. I understand your plea. but realize there will be no unification for a long-long time. I think we should be unified in the way we do things. THATS A GOOD IDEA. I wish sometimes that we were more like ants. We all know it is not going to happen. fuck the rest of this I'm going to bed. |
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a regular slsk chat : LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] THE WHOLWE WORLD LOVES WINDOWS [okidot] good stuiff, yeah windows is great man, now shut the fuck up [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] U NERDY GEK [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] U DORK [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] AND GOD ON MY SIDE [flutlichtaddict] omg shutuo and go away [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] WINDOWS IS SUPERIOR [okidot] you are the one talking about bill gates and god [flutlichtaddict] damn twat [BloodyRoar] do you read what you write retard??? [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] YES I READ [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] I AM SMART [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] WIN XP RULES [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] WE EVERY PC [okidot] no far from it [-D4RO-] LINUX BETTER [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] U SCUM [tech houserke] smart my ass [okidot] windows is fine [tech houserke] fuck offffffffffffff............ [ChainReaction] you're not smart...you're sad [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] LINUX IS FOR NERFS [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] GEEKS [okidot] you however are totally mentally ineot [BloodyRoar] ha ha ha [okidot] inept* [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] AND NERDS [flutlichtaddict] omg go away [i LOVE AMERICA DEEPLY..] EVER AMERICA WILL OUT LAST U WEAK POOR STARVING MESS OF DIRT... [tech houserke] like you |
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nice nick btw:) |
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are you all eurotrash down on their life with nothing but america and their strange brash ways holding you down? i dont get it. did you watch or read some crazy program about how america is runing the world with its month/day/year getup describing the day bobby kennedy was shot and decide to vent about it? like i said, do something about it. help the world. dont whine. its useless. |
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americans do the darndest things!! |
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6. spell the word 'ridiculous' as 'rediculous'. fucking clots. |
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i think i've got this solved! book a speaking tour across america and enlighten the population with this new and revolutionary thinking! its a sure winner! :D |
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shut up you dolt. |
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haha yes kill america |
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yes. you'll have to forgive me. i'm american. |
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I like to put frogs in other peoples pockets when they're not looking |
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thats sexy. |
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I love the way that as soon as people criticise any facet of American politics, grammar, or way of life (no matter how small) and the yanks suddenly go on the defensive as if we had just punched their mother. You're jealous! Why you be hatin? Your country sucks! &etc. &etc. Don't people realise that getting your knickers in a twist like this just makes you look insecure and (ironically) plays up to the stereotype many people hold of Americans? Criticise French engineering, British weather or German cooking and Europeans don't turn into a frenzied pack of lunatics baying for blood because "some damned yankie piece of shit" has criticised "the best country in the world." We aren't really upset by the illogical things Americans do. More faintly amused and bewildered. I think the Razorlight song "America" sums it up pretty well. We're don't hate it, we're just not really that interested in America. |
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It was more of the assumption that we are all god fearing, bush loving, evolution disbelieving, environment destroying red neck comments that get on our nerves. The wrangling everyone into one group thing is annoying. And you did it again "the best country in the world." That again is a stereotype of the red neck guy. Oh, the British have bad teeth, stuck up attitude and horrible food. Thats the stereotype and I bet they don't like it either. The French are horribly rude and smoke a lot of ciggs and the Germans hate Jews, wear black and act like robots. Those are the real stereotypes . I bet those would get on someones nerves. |
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White men also have big dongs. |
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Also, there are NEVER and threads ever on the internet critizicing any other countries other than America. Maybe a thread making fun of how the Japanese speak Engrish, but thats it. |
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"Oh, the British have bad teeth, stuck up attitude and horrible food. Thats the stereotype and I bet they don't like it either. The French are horribly rude and smoke a lot of ciggs and the Germans hate Jews, wear black and act like robots. Those are the real stereotypes . I bet those would get on someones nerves." That's my point, you can say those things and generally speaking, the people from those countries don't immediately go apeshit and start to inventory everything that is great about their country and slating your own. Criticise America in any way and you soon have a gang of Americans (yourself included, it would seem, based on the above) who, quite aside from failing to address the criticism that has been made, just fly of into a "What right do you have to bash America?!" rant. As I said , of course not all Americans are like this. But reacting in this way only reinforces that perception (that you're all overly patriotic lunatics)- why else would you get so upset by it? I intentionally said, "the best country in the world." Because that's the impression that often comes across when people leap to America's defence. It's like trying to criticise the behaviour of someone who cannot be dispassionate at all and debate rationally, but instead takes it terribly personally and just want to turn it into a slagging match. As an aside, I've yet to see anyone successfully argue against the inital points in this thread. |
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there are a few threads where people are complaining about something their country has done. Americans don't seem to do this as often, so everyone else complains about their country for them. |
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from an early age my mom would preach about how I was so lucky to be living in a "free country." The only problem was that she argued the US was the only free country. If this experience is anything like most other americans' experiences, then that might account for the "we're the best, wooo" attitude--I don't really know how it originated though... lucky for me, I thought everything my mom said was bullshit, except about santa claus. In conclusion, my mom is a weird lady with some really progressive ideas, but also some very questionable ones. |
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Yes, sure. The Middle Eastern countries, the EU as a whole, Australia, Africa, UK, Russia, Spain, etc. are never criticised. It's only America. Everyone hates America and never discusses other countries' failings at all. It's understandable why Americans are so upset by these sort of threads. |
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I'm a bit curious about #3 actually.. in the sense that I'd like to know more specifically who you see as a forward thinking leader that got killed by americans... |
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on that note, are there really as many american flags all around as it looks like? here in norway, I'll see the norwegian flag whenever there's some national holiday, but people don't bother with it as much otherwise... when I see stuff from america it looks like the flag is everywhere! Like, there's a flag in every classroom, there's a flag on every four cars and if something is doing something, they have a tendency to plant a flag on it when they're done.. like that "building the biggest" thing on discovery where they were shipping a large steel part for a bridge and some of the workers started planting flags all over the fucking thing... it seems like a way to express that very same "america's the best; the only free country!" thing... |
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do you think the reason you have the impression that americans generally get very defensive about stuff is because you only really notice the people who are getting defensive? on a messageboard especially, since you can't really notice the people who don't care. |
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I guess its better to speak of these things in person. People are generally more considerate when they aren't behind a computer screen. I do think there is a much higher frequency of anti American comments. Its the personal attacks. Not the government criticisms that grate on you. (checks spell check so that I don't get lumped in the the bad Grammar argument) |
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yeah, there are shit loads of flags. In public schools there are flags in every classroom and we have to pledge our allegiance to the flag every day. you can refuse, but you'll get dirty looks from your patriotic teacher |
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I would wage war against America, only I'm holding out for yet another tv drama set in a law firm. |
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yeah, that pledge of allegiance thing is another sort of weird.. (I'd like to call it mind control, but that just isn't true plus it's silly) nationalism reinforcement method... not necessarily intentionally instituted, but it sure seems to be hindering freedom of opinion in that you're more likely to get a uniform opinion with such an indoctrination (in other words, you aren't really restricted from having a different opinion, you're just not as likely to). |
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or another HBO "Classic television series" it seems like they're using the same formula for all new series lately.. rome, desperate housewives, lost, invasion, ghost whisperer; it's like the same story in different (but very similar) wrapping with pizzicato music when it's supposed to be funny and weird at the same time. |
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I believe he is probably referring to JFK. I should point out that I don't neccessarily agree with all the points. What I was making a point of when I said, "As an aside, I've yet to see anyone successfully argue against the inital points in this thread. " was that those who leapt to America's defence generally didn't say, "Well, point one doesn't matter because..." and "I personally am not convinced it was us who killed JFK, etc." Instead, it turned into (moreso in the other thread, but also here) either defense of America, or disassociation of individuals here from "Americans" as whole. Now,to my mind, that's a distinction that shouldn't need to explicitly be made. If someone says, "The UK's prolonged involvement in Iraq is appaling." I don't treat that as a criticism of me personally, I don't attack the country the person saying it comes from, nor do I automatically try to defend it. People seem to fail to grasp the concept of Zeitgeist (the spirit of a country as a whole). When we say "France does x" or "... is a problem in China" we are not criticising all individuals on the board who come from that country. |
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yeah, even when I was little it felt weird, the pledge not so much as the songs we would sing in music class, like "you're a grand old flag, you're a high-flying flag,..." awful awful awful songs like that. |
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hmm.. as we're criticising wrong usage of words.. as far as I can remember, that isn't what zeitgeist is, but I never bothered much with it because it seemed so silly that there should be a rational progression in history (which is what I learned it as meaning). Hegel was a bit of a silly man at times. |
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I can imagine. Even when they were trying to get me to sing "God save the Queen" when I was in Scouts, I thought it was a bit odd. Bearing in mind that I'm a royalist who was choosing to be there, I can see how for someone who didn't hold those beliefs, somewhere where attendance was mandatory (like school), it'd be very unpleasent. |
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You're quite right- Zeitgeist is "spirit of the world at a given time". Although, it is generally used to focus on an area of the world/movement, bigger than a country, but not always the world (presumably because the world is seldom in the same attitude/mood all over). For example, the western fear of terrorism, as well as the occasional worldwide cultural movement (eg the current fixation with environmentalism, both in the West and East). I think Volksgeister would have been more appropriate in this instance. The correct word aside (not that I'm making light of that- I must confess that was forgetfullness on my part, it has been a while since I read a formal philosophy book), do you believe that there is anything to be gained by creating these general "spirits of a nation" for the purposes of debate of the ways a country generally behaves/feels, or is any sort of stereotype only a negative thing? |
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well.. sure there's something to be gained; you need to direct your critique at something, and I'd actually say that "Americans" is borderline metaphor in that it no longer means "citizen of the united states of america," but rather refers to whichever part of its population you're currently criticising; if you're criticising americans for being pro-war, you're criticising those americans that are pro-war, and no other citizens of america should feel struck by the critique. I also think there's something good in unsettling those "other" americans, the ones you aren't attacking: Maybe, if they feel that your critique is directed at them, but that it misses (that they're not "Americans"), they'll eventually get fed up and maybe want to change what an "American" is. Then, maybe they'll become more active in changing those policies of their country that they don't agree with. That this should happen on a large scale, however, is probably wishful thinking; most people have better things to do than dabble in politics, and don't get me wrong, that's a good thing (what would we do if we were all politicians?), but more seriou activists (in other words, not emo kids arguing over who can shout the loudest and who can be the most hating, but rather constructive politicians who accomplish something) are definitely needed. |
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i still think a speaking tour would benefit you and your brilliant minds. come to the usa and enlighten the population. we are practically begging on our knees. |
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I'll come if you promise me I'll get some pussy |
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also, can I walk around naked? |
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walking around nude is frowned upon in america. we dont practice public nudity like all europeans do. promising you pussy shouldnt be a problem as im told american gurlz love a man with an accent. just not asian accents. you aint asian is you? |
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