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I mean, ... maybe he is one of the survivors of flight 815 and we just didn tknow |
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dont worry nac... he called me this evening to say to xltronic community (specially to pomme, he said) hes allright. |
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this most abstract i complain |
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I talked to him on the ultravisitor tour, he seemed kind of messed up about people catching up to his production style. Personally I am making the assumption that he doesn`t want to be involved with the cut up style right now because, no matter how good it is, the album would just be buried under the 500000 other "I can slice an amen" artists. Who knows ... |
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this should be poll of the week imo. thats the only way we'll know 4 sure |
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aive ? |
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his ultravisitor roppongi set.. avail at watmm...is the alivest i've ever heard him. top notch stuff with TWO encores and decade spanning hits... |
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I don't blame him. If I had people like VS stealing my style and acting like they invented it, I would be choked too. |
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i honestly don;t think VS steals squarepushers style as they're too different. |
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Yeah Tom makes way different music then Arron. Vsnares style is very much evolved gabber, where as Squarepusher is evolved drum and bass. |
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snares does it better than tom then |
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and with a tracker |
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and his hair is more long |
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I think it's impossible to compare vsnares and squarepusher, they both have their own sound, their own type of melodies, drum programming tricks etc, can't compare them just becouse they both chopped up an amen, I like to think that "drill" is an genre and not a style like squarepushers style or venetian snares style, wich one of the two artist one likes more or less is up to one another, and nobody cares wich one YOU think is "best" |
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I think the 'pusher's Jaco style combined with idm/electronic is way more inventive and a huge area to be explored and good for him for opening that door. He was an innovator. So I say he is way better than snares. |
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agree I like vsnares better |
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mardis tardis i just got into this song and it's deadly <3 |
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i don't really see the point in comparing artist, who's better or worse. arguments over opinions are as gay as arguing over the internet. i hope mr. pusher is alive and well. i wish he'd releas more jazz material. ala HND. then again, i wish he'd release anything at this point and tour! |
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The 2 are very camparable due to the nature of their production. They both have a thing for jazz, and they both have inovated music at some point in time. Tom gets the props for having to do all his stuff with shitty versions of Cubase in like 1995-96. But Tracking isn`t that easy aswell ... I like them both very much! But since we havn`t heard any new pusher in a while, and Arron has so much new material out now, it`s almost instinctive to lean towards Squarepusher at the moment. Hope he releases something fucking soon!!!! |
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its martys tardis you butt-hole |
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if pusher doesn't add some disco synths in his next release i will write him a protest letter. |
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I like Squarepusher, but I don't think he's that innovative. His whole style is pretty much based on '93-'94 style jungle (Lenny Da Ice, DJ Zinc, etc), with a few more odd sounds and slap bass thrown in. Venetian Snares is just some geek joke. Oh, he's really technically gifted! His songs are COMPLICATED! Big deal, where's the heart? |
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i love you. |
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I wonder how swears will react to that. |
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Tracking is simple. Its just as easy as entering things into a grid if your used to it. It actually makes things easier to create crazy variations in it than with automation envelopes and separate grid based tracks. |
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i prefer squarepusher. vsnares is just to prolific for me. i get annoyed every time i hear there is yet another vsnares release. another that is virtually the same damn thing as the one before it. |
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rossz was the same as? |
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"I talked to him on the ultravisitor tour, he seemed kind of messed up about people catching up to his production style." can you elaborate on this? |
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snares music has a lot fo heart actually I think squarepusher is a lot colder than snares´s music also aaron give us lots of nice melodies, despite what people say. i think that not only he is good, but he is one of the best right now |
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His production style? He's always going on about how he's a "leader" and people copying him. I think a lot of electronica and breakcore retards need to catch up on early jungle and realise how much squarepusher has nicked from legends like Dillinjer and Lemon D. "Do you know Squarepusher" is probably his best tune, because it pays lip service to things like garage and R'n'B in an interesting way. |
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it's same as everything else except it has different samples/sounds. it's like aphex would release saw1 and then made 20 versions of it using different synth sounds. IMO. yeah, vsnares's got heart, i don't oppose that, but it's too much of the same for my taste and i get bored after hearing two albums that sound exactly the same. not even necessarily by the same artist.. |
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swears : yeah I understand what he means, but I'd like to know how this conversation exactly went. Like oxygenfad: "hey man, you're my hero, I'm a musician too!" squarepusher: "quit byting my style , you homo" etc etc |
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All this Squarepusher talk has got me doing google searches now, I found a review for the show I was at. I didn`t see anyone get ruff housed though, I don`t know what this guy is talking about... I waited with a guy and his cute girlfriend (I think is why the only reason he came over). I started talking to him about gear and stuff, he was kind of fruggle with his knowledge heh. I mentioned Vsnares , and he gave me this weird body language... like I mentioned the name of his Ex-Girlfriend or something ... This is entirely just in my words, could have been nothing yeah know... maybe he was clearing his throat or something. That show was fucking great, was better then anything I have seen to date (well ministry was pretty fucking crazy...). I`m actually on the Ultra Vistor CD! I was yelling really fucking loud at the intro of one of his songs, I bootlegged the show so I can 100% prove it is the same recording :D I`ll post it some day on the torrent! Sounds like shittt though, I used one of those 20 dollar dictaphones :D |
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thats one thing i have to give to tom - all his albums sound different. not that i like them all though |
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lucifer: When I gave Tom my demo tape, he said "Yeah I`ll throw it on the pile" hahaha. That made the 14 hour drive! Luke Vibert put my tape in his front shirt pocket and tapped it with his hand :D Luke Vibert was such a cool fucking guy , very very nice! But to answer your question, I have absolutly no evidence to prove my judgements, I`m just basing this off of how he reacted to things I said. I just toally remember walking away thinking "Wow that fucking kicked ass! I wonder why he was acting weird when I mentioned Vsnares". Thats all :D |
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lol thanks for the info oxygenfad. I remember a post here, where somebody tried to take a picture of him at a show and he acted like crazy, trying to put the camera down or something. Seems like you caught him in a good mood. |
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ive heard he can act quite strange at times, yeah |
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i once met squarepusher and when i tried to talkto him he opened his mouth and a thousand flies flew out and buzzed around my head, when they cleared away, he was gone. he is a strange man |
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he was a wanker to me and then he was really friendly all within about ten minutes |
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he's a Great Man, he's allowed to |
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I never really enjoyed his stuff a lot. So is he really dead er wet ? |
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I just dont agree about all his albums sounding the same... they are quite diferent. all the people that dislike snares say that he is always doing the same, but people who like him say that his works are varied so who is right? |
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they are definately different, well the few ive heard anyway. huge chrome cylinder, making orange things, and rossz csillag are completely different from eachother - proper IDM, noise stuff and breakcore respectively |
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people who prefer Richard ? |
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I know man, I know is like, take: printf songs about my cats doll doll doll making orange things witboas rossz 2370894 chocolate wheelchair nymphomatriarch each of these sounds totally diferent to the rest of them, but still you can tell its vsnares |
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touche |
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