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offline glasseater from Switzerland on 2006-05-31 15:00 [#01910693]
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coule


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 15:01 [#01910694]
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and of course there are some certain groups o several albums
of the same style, but what artist doesnt have these?

or arent ab1, ab2, digeridoo, xylem tube... all in the same
vein?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 15:29 [#01910716]
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correct me if im wrong but those are all eps?

yeah, sure, making orange things and that hungarian one are
different. and ofcourse you can differ most of the albums,
but the difference is minimal..for example, if you took one
track from every of his albums and put them all together
you'd still get a cohesive album. the thing why we all see
it different is because those who say it all sounds alike
don't listen to it much, therfore that observation, it's the
same with every genre really. the thing is why i don't
listen to it much. it's because after hearing like 5 albums
i had enough of it because it wasn't going anywhere..i
couldn't hear any progression in his music and that just
doesn't interest me usually.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 15:33 [#01910720]
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After three years of listening to VSnares at least once a
month, I must say that Funk's main problem is the complete
lack of talent. He's a hard working man with cool ideas once
in a while, but he will never make a groundbreaking album
just because he's not a blessed man. Just an average Joe who
has the determination.
Even Rossz after a few listenings feels too much
technological and lifeless (and let's be honest - quite
kitsch). And when you hear how classical music was treated
by Murcof there are little chances you'll want to listen to
Rossz again soon.
In other words, what Swears said: where's the heart?


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 15:35 [#01910722]
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Also, please tell me, how the hell after all these years he
can still make beats like the one from Plunging Hornets
(Cavalcade) at 1:17 which is yet another exact copy of his
break attack. Then same thing at 2:20. I think I would feel
physical pain incorporating same stuff to every third of my
songs.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 15:36 [#01910723]
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i wouldn't say he's got no talent. not at all. it'd be nice
if he focused on quality instead of quantity though.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-31 15:42 [#01910727]
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v snares strikes me as a self indulgent IDM nerd repeatedly
flexing his IDM muscle. kinda like the electronic version
of Tool or Primus. He sounds so much like himself that it
all sounds the same. does that even make sense?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 15:47 [#01910732]
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it makes sense, yeah, but i can't really judge on that.
dunno how it isn't boring for him to think of it :)


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 15:55 [#01910744]
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Just listen to he song I mentioned and regain you anti-VS
fury.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 16:18 [#01910771]
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well, tell me guys

isnt it curious that 50% of the people here really dislike
him
and the oter 50% really love him?

I mean, something he must have


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 16:21 [#01910774]
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he's got crazy beatz for crazy kids :)

afterall you are posting on a geek mesageboard innit


 

offline lucifer on 2006-05-31 16:26 [#01910776]
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Though I don't like all of his output, the prolific man has
made some fucking tight tracks. Good breakbeat music, stop
acting all pretentious like he should drop a xenakis on us
every release. These mac vs pc threads are lame.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 16:27 [#01910777]
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I am a geek yes

I would like to post the videos (short) from when I went to
his gig


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 16:31 [#01910778]
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this thread was only wondering if tom was still aive


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 16:32 [#01910781]
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have you even read any of the messages? yes, we want him to
be the new yenakis or cage. we're saying he should try
something different because clearly he can make music.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 16:44 [#01910787]
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I like how you always stay calm and humble when everybody
around disses VS. You are a good man, too good for this
board.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 16:45 [#01910788]
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not that good

others before you thought I was that nice... and afterwards
came the dissapointment



 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 16:48 [#01910789]
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were there tears and broken hearts?


 

offline lucifer on 2006-05-31 16:53 [#01910791]
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tolstoyed: "have you even read any of the messages?"

yes I have mate.

"we're saying he should try something different because
clearly he can make music."

sure, as long as he doesn't start 'rapping' or singing
covers.



 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 16:55 [#01910794]
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hehe... do you know squarepusher?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-31 16:59 [#01910796]
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Vsnares is IDM influenced by other IDM. All the original
Warp artists where into d'n'b, ambient, techno, funk, etc,
etc, Vsnares just sounds like someone who started listening
to music in 1996. (I know he probably isn't) There's no real
character to his stuff. I bet Rephlex gets dozens of demos
every day along similar lines.
I really belive that the time you live in shapes the music
you make. Without the warm afterglow of rave,('93-'97) Is
electronica really going anywhere?


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 17:02 [#01910800]
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it was traumatic for some


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 17:03 [#01910801]
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ask autechre, team doyobi, chris clark, brothomstates...


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-31 17:09 [#01910810]
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Those artists are in a lot of ways, really just repeating
themselves now. If you look at Team Doyobi, they're one of
the most interesting acts out there, because they've limited
themselves to old technology like the Amiga 500 and really
explored the possibilties of what they can do with it. So
they've managed to stay fresh by rejecting a lot of the
sloppy eclecticism of the late 90's, and by staying away
from cliches like breakbeats and "lush" pads.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 17:10 [#01910812]
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you are my new hero sir.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-05-31 17:18 [#01910821]
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glad that you at least like team doyobi which I love


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-31 17:21 [#01910826]
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Not meaning to slag off your good taste, I'm just on a
downer about "IDM" at the moment.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 17:23 [#01910831]
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that's pretty much what that other thread i opened is about.
i didn't put it in this thread because not many people are
interested in squarepusher :)


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-05-31 17:34 [#01910841]
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It's good you're back.



 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-31 17:37 [#01910844]
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Nice to talk to you fellas again!


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-05-31 18:11 [#01910872]
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When I listen to his songs, pre RENOISE (like when he was
using .MEDs) I can totally see a guy sitting in front of a
frosted window in a warm room. He is a really fucking good
tracker, with a few tricks up his sleeve.

Too me besides the crazy songs, I listen to it from a 9 year
tracking geeks perspective (like most fans). On top of that
he is really bringing life back to a scene that crumbled to
wav compression technology.

I`m a fan of Vsnares for the fact that he tracks, is one of
the few great Canadian Industrial (aggressive electronic)
acts (Skinny Puppy) and the guy is really cool to his fans.

I like Squarepusher for the awesome song writing mixed with
the complex drums, not to say that snares isn`t a good song
writer, but Tom really has Arron in the "Method to the
Mayhem" department...



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-05-31 18:50 [#01910896]
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Given what you know of tracking technology, when I see
Snaresy in a performance video turning lots of knobs and
shit, do the knobs actually do anything or is it just for
show?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 18:51 [#01910899]
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you know, they probably do something, but the whole show is
so mad you can't really notice and in the end doesn't really
mean anything :)


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-05-31 19:02 [#01910910]
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seeing vsnare and squarepusher live equal amount s of times
i find them very different performers. VSnares looks great
towering over the cd mixer like soem sort of rebel predator
big brother but tom's much more musician and has pushed the
bass in drum n bass to its ultimate conclusion and keeps on
doing it.

ever hear "journey to redham", "cmon my selctor", "tetra
sync", "beep street" live? just absolutely mindblowing


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-05-31 19:09 [#01910918]
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ATTACK OF THE INTERNET


 

offline lucifer on 2006-05-31 19:25 [#01910933]
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fleetmouse: snares isn't using renoise live (he has some
shows with trackers live in the past tho) when he's twisting
knobs it'll prolly be from his cd mixer.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-05-31 19:51 [#01910938]
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true!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-31 19:57 [#01910939]
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so he progressed now? he used to use only two cd players and
a mixer..it was impressing set of madness, but basically
just a substitute for a good work out :)


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-05-31 20:39 [#01910946]
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come on my selector IS great live! :)

i still need to see vsnares perform live though.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-31 21:03 [#01910949]
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watching tom play bass live seriously blew my mind. i was
all jaw dropped open and shit.


 

offline detheel on 2013-11-07 18:58 [#02464234]
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i was all DUBturbo and shit.


 


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