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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2006-05-16 05:35 [#01899578]
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i had an idea for a new xltronic vibes, a nostalgic mix of songs dedicated to the memory of the world trade centre in new york.
the tracks must be inspired by the tragedy of the terrorist attacks, must be in 9/11 or 11/9 timing, atleast one squarewave oscilator (because they kind of look like buildings) is to be used and optional explosion/screaming and other traumer related sounds.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2006-05-16 05:41 [#01899580]
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you clearly don't know the guys on this messageboard....
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 05:41 [#01899581]
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Wow, what a magnificent idea for an xlt vibe. Bold and daring with a sense of humour, though a mix could sound rather tragic and moving.
9 over 11 timing would be interesting (hilarious?) timing, definetely out of most peoples comfort zone. I'm in!
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 05:44 [#01899583]
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an xlt vibe with a certain topic to be influenced by (world trade centre disaster) and a certain timing could be more interesting and challenging than something like, i dunno, rebirth only vibes or something. not that im saying rebirth only is a bad idea, but i think this is a good idea.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 05:53 [#01899586]
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Expect a deluge of venetian snaresesque purile "shock-a-thon" of samples of newsfootage of the crash and people screaming/crying, over poorly produced hackneyed breakbeats.
Good idea though.
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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2006-05-16 05:55 [#01899588]
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i could actually get venetian snares to do an entry himself but it's too early...time to sleep in BraziL! :)
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 05:57 [#01899589]
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'Expect a deluge of venetian snaresesque purile "shock-a-thon" of samples of newsfootage of the crash and people screaming/crying, over poorly produced hackneyed breakbeats.'
thats one way to look at it, and that alone would make a brilliant vibes. so is this official yet?
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zero-cool
on 2006-05-16 06:32 [#01899615]
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 06:38 [#01899617]
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so thats a mr daggerhappy, a mr pigster, a mr zero-cool and i know another small lil xlt person whos interested
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 06:39 [#01899618]
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ooh, and a mr ceri jc said good idea, which counts him in!!!
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 06:56 [#01899626]
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No offense, its pretty unique, but am I the only one who thinks this is the worst idea ever?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-05-16 07:04 [#01899629]
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maybe not the worst, but definitely in the top ten...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 07:09 [#01899632]
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Yeah, I'd do a track for this*
*once I've finished rebirth vibes! :S
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-05-16 07:13 [#01899635]
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Nice idea.. now I need to start making music.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 07:14 [#01899637]
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Could I submit Aphex Airlines?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 07:17 [#01899640]
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Yes, so long as you name the track, "Aphex Airlines (Twin Towers Outside kickass Robert Miles Duet Prodigy Underworld Autechre).mp3"
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 07:18 [#01899643]
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I was thinking Aphex Airlines (Durka Durka mix)
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-05-16 07:18 [#01899644]
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when man was confronted of the idea of going to moon, did he say it was the worst idea ever? did he say, no offence but this is at least in the top 10 worst ideas ever? did he say this idea sucks and give up!!! huh?
an xlt vibes with either 9/11 timing (or 11/9 if thats what part of the world you're at..) will be remembered in xlt history.
some people hated the idea, the other half thought it didnt suck.
isnt it ideas like this that should be encouraged! ideas like this that make xlt a better place for us all.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 07:26 [#01899651]
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Where the 9/11 time signature scheme falls down is that Fruityloops doesn't support 9/11 time signature. :)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-05-16 07:34 [#01899654]
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Maybe I'm going to try and fix something out of samples as I really want to contribute something, cause making music is not my department.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 07:44 [#01899660]
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.wav/.mp3 files of the sounds of news footage of the crashes, screaming, jets flying, etc. would all be good.
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2006-05-16 07:53 [#01899665]
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the plan fails as you realise you don't actually get 11th notes or 9th notes. Therefore no 9/11 11/9 time signature. haha
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-16 07:54 [#01899669]
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hHAHAH this is a joke right?
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big
from lsg on 2006-05-16 07:55 [#01899670]
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being a 9/11 survivor i dont think its very funny
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-16 07:56 [#01899671]
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9/11 / 11/9 is completely doable.
and I don't think this is a good idea.
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2006-05-16 08:00 [#01899672]
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ok. since they're no 9th or 11th notes. what are you saying is equal to a 9th note? Dotted 8th?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-16 08:01 [#01899673]
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I can't believe people are considering this .
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-16 08:05 [#01899674]
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this is shitty insensitive and just a crap idea. its fucking retarded.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 08:05 [#01899675]
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It's doable but not in a true music sense. You'd have the bend the rules of music to create that signature. This is why fruity loops wouldn't allow it.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 08:06 [#01899676]
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I'm reffering to time signatures there.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-05-16 08:15 [#01899686]
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11/9 sounds like a crazy signature - away with dualism!
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big
from lsg on 2006-05-16 08:20 [#01899689]
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black smoke (former klf) already did it and some more i guess
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-16 08:44 [#01899699]
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no, a 9th is a 9th, not a dotted 8th. I wish I could give you examples, but I wouldn't know how. I do, however, know that music can be i any timesig you want it to be, you just have to figure out how to do it and I don't have the skill unfortunately.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-16 08:47 [#01899705]
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LOL insensitive? How so??
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-16 08:51 [#01899710]
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It's hardle a noble gesture likely to make a difference to anyone or anything, except some weak self-gratification to those who do little for anyone but themselves and thus translate playing a song in a wierd time sig to equal heart felt compassion and sensitivity. It's like people who put 10p in an oxfam collection and feel they made a difference.
That along side the fact that although 9/11 was a tragedy, it is by no means something thatd eserves the attention it gets. In the grand scheme of attrocities it would rate very low in terms of innocent people who got killed, but the fact it was america and it wa son TELLY means everyone cares.
Sorry, it gets me angry. No offence to anyone.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-16 09:02 [#01899714]
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haha!
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-05-16 09:15 [#01899723]
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happy happy happy
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2006-05-16 09:17 [#01899726]
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Yes, it's doable. But you have to understand that there is no 9th note and there is no 11th note. You must find what a 9th note is equal to by using what exists.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-16 09:17 [#01899727]
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there's two movies coming out about the event, and i assume, two soundtracks. just sayin'.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-16 09:22 [#01899734]
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"It's hardle a noble gesture likely to make a difference to
anyone or anything, except some weak self-gratification to those who do little for anyone but themselves"
what he said. plus that and 90% of it will be the usual drivel of nondescript crappy idm
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-16 09:25 [#01899738]
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and i agree with that. Americans crap their pants every september over the same 3,000 people. Was it a bummer? sure. But get the heck over it america. Thousands of people die daily in other countries but we are so stuck up and paumpus that we will never realize it.
It aggravates me too
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2006-05-16 09:25 [#01899739]
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hello world
well i like square waves.
as for the timing question - everything is possible but there just no eleventh notes yet as far as i know. the whole length must be divided by 11, this will be one eleventh note.. then what? divide it further by two maybe.
this shit can be done in wave editor without timeline fucking snapping, let's say cool edit or as it is called nowadays adobe audition or you know better than me.
why the fuck did i write this - it is clear for everybody.
anyway i won't participate in [such] vibes
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-05-16 09:27 [#01899741]
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so the solution is to commemerate the event with awkward tracks in an odd time signature with samples of people screaming and dying?
again, this is probably the worst idea for a vibes yet, imo.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-16 09:29 [#01899745]
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ahahahh! i am sorry that made me laugh.
I surely wouldnt be offended if people made tracks about it. Its something different and i would be interested to see what they come up with. I think its an interesting concept.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-16 09:32 [#01899746]
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My point is..... i dont think its insensitive because whos gonna hear it anyways? Who on this forum is going to be offended? Everyone is seemingly anti-american anyways (so it seems)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-16 09:33 [#01899747]
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maybe i worded that wrong. I dont see harm in it and dont think people are going to necessarly be offended on this forum where most of the listeners are therefore i dont see it as insensitive.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-16 09:33 [#01899749]
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I'll have a go
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-16 09:34 [#01899751]
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I bet we'd make the national news, imagine the headlines:
INTERNET NERDS MAKE SICK 9/11 TRIBUTE
DO THESE "MUSICIANS" HAVE NO MORAL DECENCY?
THE PEOPLE MOCK 9/11: THESE PEOPLE ARE TERRORISTS
DEPORT THEM ALL TO CAMP X-RAY, SAYS BLAIR
SHOCKINGLY INSENSITIVE
&etc. &etc.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-16 09:38 [#01899754]
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this isnt so much about the attack its self, its about having a complete lack of respect for human life. i think its a fucking disgrace.
to top it off why don't you make some videos of people repeatedly falling out of towers in a fast choppy beatmatched idm kinda way. fucking hell....
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-16 09:39 [#01899757]
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I just think its tacky to the point of ridiculousness. It sounds like something from Brass Eye or Nathan Barley...
Next vibes, we can have Holocaust Vibes - using melodies from traditional Jewish hymns combined with samples from concentration camp footage. And it should be written in goose-step-time.
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