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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:37 [#01841386]
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I'm playing around a bit with tags.
Choose a word to tag a page (topic). With time a "cloud" will be created with different tags. The cloud might be used as an alternative navigation to find topics you're interested of.
Tags is one of the new features in XLTV2. However, this is just to show you how it will work..... see it as "training". :)
Questions in this thread, please....
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-02-14 15:38 [#01841390]
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i don't understand how it works
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-14 15:40 [#01841393]
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Cool concept, but you should probably remove that "powered by Wanabo". At least just put it on the bottom of the site :p
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:42 [#01841394]
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"Site Index" is the cloud which is created by all the tags from the visitors. You can use the cloud to find topics related to the tag.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:42 [#01841395]
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"Site Index" is the cloud which is created by all the tags from the visitors. You can use the cloud to find topics related to the tag.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:44 [#01841396]
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impakt: unfortunately i'm not allowed to remove "Powered by..."
xltv2 will prolly use another similiar system anyway.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-02-14 15:45 [#01841397]
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I don't have a good feeling about this.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-02-14 15:46 [#01841398]
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The tags ain't the same when you first come on the board and when you come on the index via the index button
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-14 15:47 [#01841399]
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my fav
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:47 [#01841400]
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they have different urls that's all
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-02-14 15:48 [#01841401]
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redrumisgay, well that didn't take long
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-14 15:48 [#01841402]
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Ah yeah, you could probably write a function that generated key-words/tags by itself from the initial/first post. Would probably be even more accurate than human-made ones.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:49 [#01841404]
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if you have never seen the concept "tags" before then i fully understand the confusion it might bring... but give it some time and don't critize it right away.... fyi, "tags" will be more discrete in xltv2, but highly accessable for the users who wants to use an alternative way to find information.
the current integration shouldn't be taken too seriously.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:55 [#01841407]
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then what would be the point compared to a regular search?
the point is to create a human association of the topic. if you have a topic on "bola" .... then it might be useful to tag the topic with words like "darrel", "fitton" or/and "jello" althought those words are not located in the thread and thereby wouldnt be found using a search engine.
it's the human association which could make a difference here... as long as we keep the cloud healthy, the more useful it will be.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 15:57 [#01841408]
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as you can see the cloud is already cluttered with irrelevant tags on this particular topic, which confuses things, but that's quite natural in the beginning......
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-02-14 15:59 [#01841409]
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I've absolutely no fucking idea what this is at all but I applaud it none the less.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:00 [#01841410]
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unfortunately it seems like the premature behaviour might force the concept to be abandoned. which is a shame really.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-02-14 16:00 [#01841411]
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we're like kids who got a new toy =]
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-02-14 16:01 [#01841412]
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sounds like granular word collections
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:05 [#01841414]
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ehhh...
ok, let me see if I get this...
when in a topic that actually is about something, we click "tag this page" and add a tag for what it is about or what the topic contains. We will then, if everyone uses these tags correctly, be able to find the topics and any other topics that contain information about whatever the tag is..?
so if I click a topic about mastering and tag it "mastering," people will be able to click the tag for mastering and find that topic +other topics that have been tagged "mastering"..?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-02-14 16:05 [#01841415]
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Yeah, I think you need do a thread explaining
WHAT ARE TAGS
HOW THEY WORK
HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE USING TAGS
ETC
then, 8 weeks later, introduce tags.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:06 [#01841416]
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it will only find other topics with the same tag.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-14 16:08 [#01841417]
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Yeah, that's why I suggest computer-generated tags. A large majority of the forum will probably just make "funny" tags instead of using it seriously, at least in the starting phase.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:08 [#01841418]
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funnily enough, the possibility of being funny using the tags disappeared even before the tags were implemented. just look at how predictably they are being used for "humour."
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:10 [#01841419]
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yes, so if people use them correctly, they will quite possibly be a great tool! good work, but I don't think you can rely on people using them correctly... you should only give certain people access to them, I think... not only the mods, though, as that would be too few for it to be effective, but take people that.. you know.. don't fuck about...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:11 [#01841420]
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it IS possible to automatically generate tags based on page content.
"the starting phase...." <--- true
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:13 [#01841421]
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maybe create a new field when creating a topic in which one can enter a keyword for the topic that would automatically be the first tag?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:13 [#01841422]
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it IS a useful tool. the purpose is not to replace the mb index page or the search engine. just an alternative way of finding relevant information.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-02-14 16:15 [#01841423]
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this is actually a good idea..
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-02-14 16:15 [#01841424]
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here's an idea -
how's about only the thread creator or mods can assign tags to a thread, and nobody can assign tags to the index page?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:17 [#01841425]
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another example: why not tag all radioshow-topics with a "radioshow" or "liveshow" tags? it would simplify things a lot.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-14 16:17 [#01841426]
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Yes, I know. That's why I suggested it :p
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:18 [#01841427]
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yeah
and maybe you could have the auto-generated discog threads auto-generate tags with the artist name, catalogue number and such..?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:19 [#01841429]
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oooo! the site index thingie has larger text the more sites there are in the tag.. qrter is quite big already.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-02-14 16:21 [#01841430]
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the mb index page won't have a tag-index in the future..... that's totally irrelevant.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-14 16:26 [#01841437]
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Dammit, I just typed in a load of relevant ones!
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-14 16:34 [#01841445]
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this doesn't work very well yet, as everyone is seems to be tagging the main page.
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-14 16:35 [#01841446]
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this doesn't work very well yet, as everyone is seems to be
tagging the main page.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-14 16:36 [#01841447]
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Yeah, it's failing. I can't be bothered to keep tagging relevant things to just have people putting qrterz, gigingerz, roxxorz, gayz. Defeats the point.
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-14 16:51 [#01841451]
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i clicked cocks and nothing happened
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 16:58 [#01841454]
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ah, yes, unfortunately it seems to rely on javascript.. enable that, and it should work.
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-14 17:00 [#01841456]
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mm, i have, it was tagged to xltronic.com/mb instead of a topic though
hehe, like we're all cocks
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-02-14 17:01 [#01841457]
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this is a very good idea (aside from the obvious abuse)
are the 4 or 5 listed on the left the most recently tagged?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 17:02 [#01841458]
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aaand they're gone.
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-14 17:04 [#01841460]
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^^^ woa
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-14 17:05 [#01841462]
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i taged this topic tags :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-14 17:12 [#01841464]
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ahh i see... neat
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-14 17:15 [#01841466]
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o, wait, they're back
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-02-14 17:28 [#01841472]
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i dunno just how useful these will be. but i hope they stay and you work out a way to keep it clean.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-02-14 18:08 [#01841479]
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This is a good idea.......... even if people abuse it (before they get bored and go back to slagging off tridenti), it still should work if at least some people tag responsibly.
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